CPU only scores runs by hitting homers??

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: CPU only scores runs by hitting homers??

Those are very good explanations, Darwin. I guess the word "drastic" was an overstatement on my part. Sorry. And yeah, if you miss the meter line often enough (like I did last year! Seriously, I'm awful at it) than Meter is almost certainly the right interface for you. Especially if Classic and you end up not melding. I understand it's not for everyone.

And wait...YOU get to determine when you get cut off from sex? What?!?! I think your wife and my GF need to have a talk.

[Vashyron.]

Re: CPU only scores runs by hitting homers??

The reasons why I moved contact down a notch are:

- every hit seemed like contact was solid
- human and cpu weren't striking out near enough, if at all
- a bit more variety in hits (high bouncers, bloop hits, etc)
- in my small sample, it seemed that there were too many hits (esp. for cpu)

as far as lowering solid hits a notch:

- again every hit seemed like a laser
- even non-power guys were always making solid contact
- trying to get more runs scored from other means than the homer

As far as run speed is concerned, I have been playing with it at default since I moved to AS (along with arm strength, fielder reaction). I am thinking of lowering it a few notches ONLY if I feel I'm not seeing enough doubles and triples. My last game, I hit a rocket down the third base line that I thought should have reached the wall for a double, but the LF cut it off rather easily and held me to a single (Jeter was the batter and the LF was Jennings so not entirely impossible).

Just play a couple games with solid hits at 0, zeroing the slider doesn't decrease hit totals. The slider affects how hard you hit pitches that are off or on the edges of the PCI. Any double or HR at default will be a double or HR with solid hits at 0. Contact is by far the most powerful hitting slider, it just does so much (it changes the size of the PCI), especially for the CPU (it does PCI size, plate discipline, and plate vision; way too much for just one slider).

You should at least lower power to 4, I've had plenty of HRs with that setting, Reed Johnson hit a HR into a 15 MPH wind. I've lowered it to 3 over the last few games, and it might be too low, but 4 definitely gives enough HRs.

Again, just try fielder speed 0 for a game or 2. I had Endy Chavez cutoff sure line-drive doubles into the LF corner with fielder speed at 1. The fielders are way too fast.

I have all my Show PSN friends using my global sliders (even one that was dead set on playing with default). And, my whole league (which I am not the commissioner of) are using my sliders.

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: CPU only scores runs by hitting homers??

Darwin, PM me if you have any questions.

This is now two threads that Vashyron has spoiled for me with falsehoods...one's that go against Dev and in-game manual descriptions, and are also not supported by a shred of evidence on his part (which honestly wouldn't take long because we all have a notebook and pencil lying around).

Darwin, you don't have to be Vashyron's guinea pig for conspiracy theory testing. Why he would even ask you to do this is beyond me.

[Vashyron.]

Re: CPU only scores runs by hitting homers??

Darwin, PM me if you have any questions.

This is now two threads that Vashyron has spoiled for me with falsehoods...one's that go against Dev and in-game manual descriptions, and are also not supported by a shred of evidence on his part (which honestly wouldn't take long because we all have a notebook and pencil lying around).

Darwin, you don't have to be Vashyron's guinea pig for conspiracy theory testing. Why he would even ask you to do this is beyond me.

What is your problem?

With fielder speed, just get game tape and compare it with game, fielders are way too fast, plain and simple.

What I said about the contact slider matches exactly with the in-game description. That slider should be broken down into at least 2 sliders. I assume you're talking about solid hits slider saying I'm wrong. Nomo's testing last year in CPU vs CPU games showed lowering the solid hits slider isn't nearly as influential as the description makes it seem.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...olid-hits.html

If anything, with less line drives *singles* get reduced the most (which reduces batting average of course). And probably some hits to the gap as well. So in a longer term I still believe reducing the solid hit reduces the batting ave by changing quite a few line drives to routine fly balls or maybe even grounders.

But I thought I was going to see *substantial* change in game play by going from solid hit 5 to zero and that was the point to begin with. I'm not see it so far...

[bkrich83]

Re: CPU only scores runs by hitting homers??

Darwin,

I'm on AS Default with only Pitch Speed 3, Fielding Errors 6, SB Frequency 7 (or 8), and Injuries at 6.

These are essentially my settings as well. Although I did up Starter Stamina to 6, and that seems to be the sweet spot. I also lowered wind to 4, as I thought at default there were too many windy days that ended up in massive homerfests.

My numbers are right online with what they should be.

Using Timing hitting and I switch between Pulse Pitching and Classic pitching depending on my mood. Although I only play Classic pitching when I play on the Vita.

[nomo17k]

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Nomo's testing last year in CPU vs CPU games showed lowering the solid hits slider isn't nearly as influential as the description makes it seem.

Just adding to this since what I wrote still should be interpreted with caution. I didn't get *that* many games in (only 15 - 30 games) to test Solid Hit at 0 and 10, so those conclusions were still tentative, and no way definitive.

While lowering SH didn't lower batting average that much (but still *does* lower it a bit, though not so drastically), you see a huge difference in line drive fraction. Line drive fraction changed from 11% to 24% over SH 0 - 10.

Increasing SH does inflate batting average though.

So it's a common knowledge... line drives have the best chance of becoming safe hits dropping between fielders, whereas grounders and fly balls give fielders more chances to catch and turn them into outs.

[Vashyron.]

Re: CPU only scores runs by hitting homers??

Just adding to this since what I wrote still should be interpreted with caution. I didn't get *that* many games in (only 15 - 30 games) to test Solid Hit at 0 and 10, so those conclusions were still tentative, and no way definitive.

While lowering SH didn't lower batting average that much (but still *does* lower it a bit, though not so drastically), you see a huge difference in line drive fraction. Line drive fraction changed from 11% to 24% over SH 0 - 10.

Increasing SH does inflate batting average though.

So it's a common knowledge... line drives have the best chance of becoming safe hits dropping between fielders, whereas grounders and fly balls give fielders more chances to catch and turn them into outs.

You would think by the description that the solid hits slider would be the most important hitting slider, but it just isn't nearly that important as far as having an effect on batting averages. I'm sure lowering it does reduce hits, but not by that much. Lowering it also gives you some hits in return as well in the form of more bloopers. If you square up the ball, you are going to hit it hard regardless of where the slider is at. The contact slider is far far more important, it changes the PCI size. You can literally use the solid hits slider as your hit variety slider and than use the other sliders to counter the slight effect it has on batting averages.

[DarwinB]

Re: CPU only scores runs by hitting homers??

Darwin, PM me if you have any questions.

This is now two threads that Vashyron has spoiled for me with falsehoods...one's that go against Dev and in-game manual descriptions, and are also not supported by a shred of evidence on his part (which honestly wouldn't take long because we all have a notebook and pencil lying around).

Darwin, you don't have to be Vashyron's guinea pig for conspiracy theory testing. Why he would even ask you to do this is beyond me.

First of all Heroes, I need to clarify something - as far as the sex thing goes, I'm simply adding another excuse to her list for NOT having sex! You know the list that includes headache, hangnail, too tired, too hot, too cold, raining, not raining, kids might wake up..... and now 'you talked about sliders' is added to the list.

I guess that is a little off topic so back to the thread. I am certainly not an expert at this game and not as analytical as some in this forum. I only get to play this game maybe 4 hours/week , so definately a recreational player. But I have never believed in adjusting any slider to 0 or increasing one to 10. I can't help but think doing so will drastically affect other sliders causing a slippery slope of constant slider adjustments and unrealistic results. I have a tremendous amount of trust in the developers of this great game, enough to feel that default sliders are good enough that they don't need much tweaking, if any tweaking at all. Every year my sliders are at 4,5, or 6 (mostly 5) - except for the personal preference sliders like pitch speed and injuries. I don't believe for a minute that a slider is so far off base that it has to be completely zeroed out or raised to the max. Would I still buy this game if we didn't have the option of adjusting sliders and had to play it "out of the box"? Absolutely I would (sometimes I wish that was the case) However, if some of the experienced users in this forum (you know who you are), who do countless hours of testing on all of our behalf (thank you by the way), recommend that a slider like strike frequency needs to be lowered to 3, I certainly listen to that advice.

Thanks again for your help. I can't wait to get started. I am leaving town for a few days, so won't be playing for awhile. Hopefully when I get back on Sunday the opening day rosters are out so I can start my season. I might need a few more practice games though to make a final decision on a few sliders (oops - I hope my wife doesn't read this!!)

[sdf4977]

Re: CPU only scores runs by hitting homers??

If I lower power on both CPU and human will we score more runs on regular hits.
My three games series against the Rays with me being Toronto almost all the Runs scored were on Home Runs.

April 17th
Combined score 10 Runs 9/10 scored on Home Runs
TB- Longoria Gran Slam
TOR- Escobar, Bautista 2, Arencibia, Encarnacion, All Solo Home Runs



April 18th
Combined score 6 Runs All Runs scored on Home Runs
TB- Longoria, Pena Solo Home Runs
TOR- Bautista 2-Run Home Run, Lind, Arencibia Solo Home Runs


April 19th
Combined score 7 runs 5/7 Runs scored on Home Runs
TOR - Venable Solo Home run
TB- Jennings, Longoria, Pena, Keppinger all Solo Home Runs

I find it alarming that 20/23 runs were all scored on Home Runs. Please somebody help me out. At this rate I will have to hit 100 Home Runs to have somebody with 100 RBI's

Also in 12 games I have Hit 23 Home runs and I have given up 17 Home Runs as a Pitching staff

So as you can see Im getting all my runs from Home Runs too, this is getting to where I dont want to play my Franchise right now

[DarwinB]

Re: CPU only scores runs by hitting homers??

If I lower power on both CPU and human will we score more runs on regular hits.
My three games series against the Rays with me being Toronto almost all the Runs scored were on Home Runs.

April 17th
Combined score 10 Runs 9/10 scored on Home Runs
TB- Longoria Gran Slam
TOR- Escobar, Bautista 2, Arencibia, Encarnacion, All Solo Home Runs



April 18th
Combined score 6 Runs All Runs scored on Home Runs
TB- Longoria, Pena Solo Home Runs
TOR- Bautista 2-Run Home Run, Lind, Arencibia Solo Home Runs


April 19th
Combined score 7 runs 5/7 Runs scored on Home Runs
TOR - Venable Solo Home run
TB- Jennings, Longoria, Pena, Keppinger all Solo Home Runs

I find it alarming that 20/23 runs were all scored on Home Runs. Please somebody help me out. At this rate I will have to hit 100 Home Runs to have somebody with 100 RBI's

Also in 12 games I have Hit 23 Home runs and I have given up 17 Home Runs as a Pitching staff

So as you can see Im getting all my runs from Home Runs too, this is getting to where I dont want to play my Franchise right now

This is the reason why I started this thread. However, I have played more games since then. I can assure you things do balance out. I posted my slider adjustments in this thread that have helped me in this regard. I just felt there were too many solid hits and lasers with contact and solid hits at default - but am very happy with my results now. Having said that Heroes and Villains plays on default AS (except for pitch speed, errors, and steal frequency) and is getting excellent results as well. We both play as the Yankees - a homerun hitting team - and we are both averaging around 1.5 homers/game and giving up sligthly less.

And Toronto is a powerful team as well and I have recently found out so are the Rays (thanks Bobhead - and you were bang on), so you should be seeing lots of homers in this series.

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: CPU only scores runs by hitting homers??

I'm well below 1.5 since my recent power outage.

I think I've hit 24 in my first 20 games, while giving up around 27.