Have Absolutely Had It

[overrated_ichiro]

Why is it that you can't hit pitches outside the strike zone? How come with zone hitting you can't EVER square up a pitch that's touching the upper, inner, or lower line of the strike zone? This is ridiculous, MLB players hit pitches out of the zone all the time, Vald Guerraro made a career out of it. Here I am pushing all the way down with the left stick and when I get my pitch analysis the circle isn't over the line. Then Padres catcher Nick Hundley hits a home run off me on a slider that touches the lower line of the strike zone. It's incredibly inconsistent and frustrating.

MVP baseball 2004 had better hitting than this game. You could choose where you wanted to hit the ball, and what direction, you could hit pitches outside the zone.

I have tried really hard to enjoy the game and I just can't. It looks beautiful and should be a great experience but it's driving me crazy and I can't take squaring up pitches on veteran and popping up then getting hits when I don't even touch the ball with the contact circle on all star. I did not have these problems with prior games, I have played 7 games today and have hit 1 home run. I have not had more than 7 hits in a game. I have tried timed hitting, zone, all-star, veteran, taking lots of pitches, being aggressive, I've used contact swings, normal swings, power swings. I've tried different teams.


And I know people will say to practice, I've won the world series on all star in this franchise in 3 different versions of the game. I usually love it and can hit!


Any advice or tips that can solve this before I trade the game in and go back to mvp?

[HighCmpPct]

Re: Have Absolutely Had It

Umm just two things.

1. Just chill out, if you don't you'll never hit.

2. I know players can hit pitches out of the zone, but just because they can doesn't mean they go up there looking for those pitches. Not to mention if you keep trying to hit pitches out of the zone the CPU is never going to give you one over the middle to hit.(at least on the higher levels)

So just relax some man, maybe try some sliders? But definetly don't trade this game in because you can't do something that about only 1 out of every 20,30 MAJOR league hitters can do anyway.

[Vashyron.]

Re: Have Absolutely Had It

You can hit pitches that are borderline strikes/balls for sure. I use zone hitting on Legend. I'll give you that getting a hit on a pitch that's off the plate is nearly impossible, though I've gotten the occasional bloop hit. Hitting low pitches below the zone always results in a weak grounder for me, you can't golf those pitches like some hitters can.

The method I use for hitting is to look in a 4 quadrant zone (up and in, up and out, down and in, down and out) that has the most hot zones before 2 strikes and take everything else.

MVP baseball 2004 had better hitting than this game. You could choose where you wanted to hit the ball, and what direction, you could hit pitches outside the zone.

Any advice or tips that can solve this before I trade the game in and go back to mvp?

MVP's hitting system was horrible, all you had to do hold the left stick up and in (since it was doing more than it should), and wait for a pitch anywhere on the inner half of the plate. You can directionally hit pitches in The Show by timing the pitch correctly (and using swing influence to help a little). If you want to hit the ball the other way, wait back on the pitch and swing late. It doesn't make sense to swing at a pitch early and expect it to go to the opposite field. And, go back to High Heat instead of MVP if you must.

[overrated_ichiro]

Re: Have Absolutely Had It

The most frustrating part is I'm working counts really well and getting starters out in the 6th inning but only have 3-4 weak hits to show for it. I hit hard balls but always right to the fielders or I'm robbed by diving plays in the outfield. It seems like I have to hammer a gap shot to the warning track to get extra bases. I get the ''perfect'' and ''solid'' with a power hitter and it's a fly out over and over. 7 games with 1 home run and it was by Inge. I'm hitting balls hard, putting them in play, getting nothing to show for it.

[Vashyron.]

Re: Have Absolutely Had It

Lower fielder speed to 0, lower fielder reaction to 1, lower arm strength to 2 (or 3), and keep baserunner speed at 5 (default). The OFs are way too fast on default sliders, the infielders too quick, and everyone throws too hard as well.

[overrated_ichiro]

Re: Have Absolutely Had It

Lower fielder speed to 0, lower fielder reaction to 1, lower arm strength to 2 (or 3), and keep baserunner speed at 5 (default). The OFs are way too fast on default sliders, the infielders too quick, and everyone throws too hard as well.

Alright I'll try that. Any other sliders I should adjust? I've tried using some from the sliders forum and have actually done better on default.

[overrated_ichiro]

Re: Have Absolutely Had It

Wow what a difference those sliders make. It's so much more realistic. Well hit balls are getting through the infield!

[pistolpete]

Re: Have Absolutely Had It

Try timing hitting.

[econoodle]

Re: Have Absolutely Had It

Lower fielder speed to 0, lower fielder reaction to 1, lower arm strength to 2 (or 3), and keep baserunner speed at 5 (default). The OFs are way too fast on default sliders, the infielders too quick, and everyone throws too hard as well.

wow bold move. lol
I feel they are too fast as well, dropped to 2 and still seeing them act crazy ut there, they camp out under every fly ball and have a hot dog.

i'll try it. and hang in there OP

[NAFBUC]

Re: Have Absolutely Had It

Some good suggestions for the OP here.

I have also lowered field speed to zero.

[Vashyron.]

Re: Have Absolutely Had It

Alright I'll try that. Any other sliders I should adjust? I've tried using some from the sliders forum and have actually done better on default.

Wow what a difference those sliders make. It's so much more realistic. Well hit balls are getting through the infield!

I'm glad you're loving the sliders. Some other adjustments I have that should work for anyone no matter what difficulty level you're on are:

Human/CPU Power: 4
Human/CPU Solid Hits: 2 or 3 (really increases hit variety)
Human/CPU Starter Stamina: 6
Human Reliever Stamina: 1
CPU Reliever Stamina: 2
Fielding Errors: 6
Throwing Errors: 6

wow bold move. lol
I feel they are too fast as well, dropped to 2 and still seeing them act crazy ut there, they camp out under every fly ball and have a hot dog.

i'll try it. and hang in there OP

Yeah, with fielder speed at 1, I had Endy Chavez cut off 2 line shots right down the line in a single game; he's fast but not that fast. I dropped fielder speed to 0 after that, which I think is pretty close to realistic. From watching some baseball this weekend, I think fielder speed 0 is still a touch too fast though.

[Jeter2]

Re: Have Absolutely Had It

I agree with a lot of what you said but criticism to the Show isn't taken well in the forum. Every time anyone brings up the obvious issue in hitting logic you are always met with "Thats Baseball", "If you dont like it hit the eject button" or "It's because you aren't good enough". I understand that hitting is a omplicated process but its convenient that whenever the cpu needs an out they put it right on the corners because no matter the PCI or timing or hitter it will be an out 75% of the time

[Therion7]

Re: Have Absolutely Had It

Thinking of dropping fielder speed down to zero myself. I'm currently at 1, and I very rarely see instances of lofted hits drop into the outfield before the fielder gets there.

I've never had an opportunity or reason to do a diving catch, either I'm under it by running alone or it's hit for a homerun. The CPU is even quicker in this regard.

Overall batting averages were a little lower than I hoped at the end of spring training but I would like to take solid hits down a touch, not seeing enough choppers, which will make the avs a little worse in the long run, so fielder speed, reaction and arm strength need tinkered with to get my top 5 hitters respectable if not leading the league. As a manual fielder, the CPU kicks my butt in this regard. He does some fantastic stuff, whereas I very rarely stop line drives down the foul line unless they're hit right at me.

I'm winning games but there's Mendoza line stuff in the starting nine! Some guys need more hits.

[NEOPARADIGM]

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... its convenient that whenever the cpu needs an out they put it right on the corners because no matter the PCI or timing or hitter it will be an out 75% of the time

So I guess my team isn't batting .289 and I guess I'm 0-72 because the CPU always "conveniently" gets outs when it needs them.

The reason people get ridiculed when they suggest things like that is because there are a dozen or more people waiting around to point out that they're not experiencing the same thing.

[econoodle]

Re: Have Absolutely Had It

Yeah, with fielder speed at 1, I had Endy Chavez cut off 2 line shots right down the line in a single game; he's fast but not that fast. I dropped fielder speed to 0 after that, which I think is pretty close to realistic. From watching some baseball this weekend, I think fielder speed 0 is still a touch too fast though.

i tried one game with it zeroed out. still fast , but better, thanks.
I also see balls getting in between the SS and 3B for singles.
nice.