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  • Therion7
    Rookie
    • Aug 2010
    • 376

    #31
    Re: Have Absolutely Had It

    Originally posted by AUTiger1
    Wow. I don't have my fielder sliders anywhere near that low and I still get plenty of hits and extra base hits and runs.
    Put speed down to zero last night and to be honest, the effect isn't that noticeable. It's slightly better so I'm keeping it at that. Took down contact / timing / power to compensate.

    It all depends who you're playing with. Normally, I play with the Mariners in my season, but decided to have a quick exhibition as the Rays and saw off the Orioles starter in the first two innings.

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    • SJUSoccer9
      Rookie
      • Mar 2011
      • 23

      #32
      Re: Have Absolutely Had It

      Unfortunately don't have time to read this whole thing right now, but I didn't think threads like this existed for this game lol... my personal opinion, this is one of the greatest games out there right now, period. With that said, you HAVE to fool around with the sliders and settings depending on what skill level you're playing on. When you find what works best for you, there really isn't any reason to put this game down - it is near perfect. I've heard people say "well The Show, they never really change anything so why should I get it every year?".. the point is, they don't HAVE to change anything because the game is close to perfection. Does anyone here play the NHL Series or visit the EA forums? You have no clue how much is wrong with that game lol

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      • econoodle
        MVP
        • Sep 2009
        • 4884

        #33
        Re: Have Absolutely Had It

        Originally posted by SJUSoccer9
        Unfortunately don't have time to read this whole thing right now, but I didn't think threads like this existed for this game lol... my personal opinion, this is one of the greatest games out there right now, period. With that said, you HAVE to fool around with the sliders and settings depending on what skill level you're playing on. When you find what works best for you, there really isn't any reason to put this game down - it is near perfect. I've heard people say "well The Show, they never really change anything so why should I get it every year?".. the point is, they don't HAVE to change anything because the game is close to perfection. Does anyone here play the NHL Series or visit the EA forums? You have no clue how much is wrong with that game lol
        well i dont know about that.
        the bugs and glitches thread is as long as the impressions thread. so it has its issues.
        But dont be mistaken it's a great game, I personally feel its running off past success and glory.
        I would like to see SCEA take a chance next year and be bold, think outside the box and give the game some fresh life.
        Incremental changes are fine but with a possible new competitor next year, it would do them well to have a reinvention to stave off the users who are feeling the boredom creeping in. THose people, just seekin a change might jump ship. Make your game the one that feels like a change.

        For those who say, why change it?
        Thats exactly why you do change it.

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        • SJUSoccer9
          Rookie
          • Mar 2011
          • 23

          #34
          Re: Have Absolutely Had It

          Originally posted by econoodle
          well i dont know about that.
          the bugs and glitches thread is as long as the impressions thread. so it has its issues.
          But dont be mistaken it's a great game, I personally feel its running off past success and glory.
          I would like to see SCEA take a chance next year and be bold, think outside the box and give the game some fresh life.
          Incremental changes are fine but with a possible new competitor next year, it would do them well to have a reinvention to stave off the users who are feeling the boredom creeping in. THose people, just seekin a change might jump ship. Make your game the one that feels like a change.

          For those who say, why change it?
          Thats exactly why you do change it.
          I hear what you're saying - maybe I've just been stuck in the NHL world for far too long because, while I have been playing The Show for the last 4 years, it does seem near perfect when you compare it to a game like the NHL franchise (a game I've played far more over the last few years than The Show).

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          • econoodle
            MVP
            • Sep 2009
            • 4884

            #35
            Re: Have Absolutely Had It

            Originally posted by SJUSoccer9
            I hear what you're saying - maybe I've just been stuck in the NHL world for far too long because, while I have been playing The Show for the last 4 years, it does seem near perfect when you compare it to a game like the NHL franchise (a game I've played far more over the last few years than The Show).

            good point on the NHL thing.
            the Show is the bomb, don't get me wrong.
            I've owned or played all of them, including this years, but a rejuvenation would be welcomed.

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            • Perfect Zero
              1B, OF
              • Jun 2005
              • 4012

              #36
              Re: Have Absolutely Had It

              Originally posted by Padgoi
              It bothers me when people say things like this. How does it benefit SCEA? Simple....they know people won't play if you win every game and go 161-1. They know losing at a realistic pace will keep us sim-gamers playing, which is obviously the demographic they were going for. So if you have a few wins in a row and magically the CPU is hitting everything and you seemingly have no chance of winning, we all blame it on "being baseball" and "the law of averages," but in reality, SCEA absolutely can benefit from throwing a little code into the game to "keep things close," especially when they know it'll keep us coming back. I'm certainly not implying they do, but I'm saying, it is quite feasible and definitely a tactic that can benefit the company.
              Except for it doesn't benefit SCEA at all? What developer would go to a meeting and say "You know what would really screw with the minds of the players? If we put in a comeback code! Think of all the hate mail we'll get and the bitching and moaning on the forums!" If you look at the actual stats of the game, they do line up with how baseball plays. There is no comeback code; it is not in SCEA's interests.
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              • Padgoi
                Banned
                • Oct 2008
                • 1873

                #37
                Re: Have Absolutely Had It

                Originally posted by econoodle
                well i dont know about that.
                the bugs and glitches thread is as long as the impressions thread. so it has its issues.
                But dont be mistaken it's a great game, I personally feel its running off past success and glory.
                I would like to see SCEA take a chance next year and be bold, think outside the box and give the game some fresh life.
                Incremental changes are fine but with a possible new competitor next year, it would do them well to have a reinvention to stave off the users who are feeling the boredom creeping in. THose people, just seekin a change might jump ship. Make your game the one that feels like a change.

                For those who say, why change it?
                Thats exactly why you do change it.
                Disagree. Ever heard of the saying, "don't fix what's not broken?" The game plays well, I think tweaking the imperfections is fine. If you start messing with things in order to be innovative, you run the risk of disappointing and annoying the user base that you've built by being a sim game. EA Sports has to be innovative because their game is lacking and not close to being sim. This game is so close to sim, all you have to really do is tweak the engine for gameplay purposes. Graphics are another thing altogether, you can always improve those.

                Originally posted by Perfect Zero
                Except for it doesn't benefit SCEA at all? What developer would go to a meeting and say "You know what would really screw with the minds of the players? If we put in a comeback code! Think of all the hate mail we'll get and the bitching and moaning on the forums!" If you look at the actual stats of the game, they do line up with how baseball plays. There is no comeback code; it is not in SCEA's interests.
                Did you read my post at all or are you just taking pot shots for the sake of taking pot shots? I didn't say there was a comeback code. I simply pointed out that it could indeed benefit the company by adding a little line of code to make things interesting. Your rationale has no basis whatsoever.

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                • Jeter2
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 158

                  #38
                  Re: Have Absolutely Had It

                  Not to continue to be a negative nancy but playing on All Star 3 game series with the Red Sox me as the Yankees. Game 2 of the series I was invincible, faced Buccholz and whatever swing I put yielded an amazing result. I had 8 HR's total and several where on terribly timed swings with the PCI being off. Next game I get 4 hit by John lackey even though my swings were much better. Once again I understand baseball is different day to day and no I do not want a HR derby or big run totals every game. However, I just want a logical reason why i'm not getting hits or am hitting everything to the second basemen. Simply saying "well hitters have off games" or "teams go in slumps" etc. does not allow me in anyway to improve as a user playing this game. there are times when im playing my Yankee franchise and I just get the feel that it doesnt matter the hitter I have or the pitcher I face. Whatever swing I put on will result in an out.

                  Don't even get me started on the BS confidence system which allows pitchers to throw meatballs at the plate that can't get crushed bc that blue meter is full. I refuse to believe this only happens to myself and a small portion of people playing this game. Game is still excellent but if we are being objective there are elements very puzzling about the game
                  Last edited by Jeter2; 04-10-2012, 12:49 PM.

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                  • econoodle
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 4884

                    #39
                    Re: Have Absolutely Had It

                    Originally posted by Padgoi
                    Disagree. Ever heard of the saying, "don't fix what's not broken?"
                    i touched on those thoughts in the end of my post.

                    for those who say why change it, thats exactly why you do.

                    Also, parts of the game ARE broken, but which sports game has pieces that aren't?. But, even a revamp would have bugs, thats the nature of the beast in gaming today.

                    We agree to disagree, and I am ok with that.
                    If i was heading up the SCEA team, I'd call for a reinvention of sorts.

                    But thats my thoughts on that, I don't see the point of me going on any further or I risk repeating myself or it getting a bit touchy.
                    lol

                    edit: your point about innovation for sake of innovation being dangerous is true. Just look at NBA Elite.
                    But it doesn't have to be that much of a change to feel new.
                    it doesn't have to be a 180. there r ways to reinvent without making the game unrecognizable to past versions.
                    Last edited by econoodle; 04-10-2012, 12:48 PM.

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                    • ebarws6
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 373

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Perfect Zero
                      "You know what would really screw with the minds of the players? If we put in a comeback code!"
                      Sounds like something to come out of an EA Tiburon meeting about the NCAA Football series.
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                      • tonadom
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 467

                        #41
                        Re: Have Absolutely Had It

                        I'm sure the equation that determines how the ball is hit would make people's heads spin. They are trying to emulate reality. Can you guys even imagine how intricate that would be ?

                        The PCI is not a bat cursor. The attributes of the pitcher and batter matter. The timing of the swing and the type of swing matters. The release timing of the pitch and type of pitch matters.

                        I don't know what some of you guys want from a video game cause if you think about it, SCEA is trying to do something that's impossible - replicate real results.

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                        • capnharry
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 137

                          #42
                          Re: Have Absolutely Had It

                          I agree with some of your points but as far as hitting pitches out of the zone, I heard an interesting stat. The major league avg for pitches hit in the zone last year was like .287. Out of the zone? Like .174. Vlad was a big exception.

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