HELP NEEDED FROM SONY - Question regarding catcher freeze?

[Woodweaver]

I've had this happen to me many, many times and twice today. And yes it's a much bigger issue than the responses to this thread suggest, theshownation is littered with complaints about it (funny this discussion isn't happening there). Up until about an hour ago it's always been on dropped 3rd strikes for me but tonight it was on a steal from first as well. All online, play now head to head if that matters. Never seen this offline.


The first time today was with runners on 1st and 2nd, though I don't think that matters as I've had it happen in multiple situations including no one on base. I believe it was either a slider or CB barely in the dirt. The catcher definitely didn't block it with his chest and it didn't squirt away, it was almost certainly caught on a short hop. The ball is caught on the hop, camera cuts to the wide angle behind home, catcher hasn't moved at all, and then he's frozen.


Second time today was with a runner on first stealing second. Kershaw throws a 12-6 curve supposedly in the dirt (but barely I guess), catcher catches it on the short hop, camera cuts to the wide view to throw him out at second, and now the catcher is frozen again.


Many players have caught on that you can round the bases and score, even when coming home the catcher does nothing. People are getting cheap wins with this. It really sucks. The only way to get out of it is to have the runners score or stand still.


BTW I've seen a bunch of posts but no developer responses to the post patch freezing as it relates to online games. I have no problems with Play Now, but every single game I've tried initiating from a game room freezes (about 10 straight over 3 days!!!) before the first pitch and before the scenes where the players are standing around talking on the infield. The only way out of it is for one person to shut off their PS3 and take the loss. Once they do that on their end I see a traffic dely and then a lost connection message.


Thanks!

Thank you for the additional info. If you happen to remember, what were the number of outs and the counts? This is relevant because 3rd strikes that are not legally caught only count as dropped 3rd strikes when 1B is occupied if there are 2 outs, and in both cases mentioned, 1B was initially occupied. There is obviously some disconnect occurring which puts the catcher on a different page than everyone else.

BTW, Ramone responded to the patch freeze issue in another thread. There is a search function available in this forum that will allow you to find his posts specifically. Hope that helps.

[Pared]

Re: HELP NEEDED FROM SONY - Question regarding catcher freeze?

Please do not come here asking for developer responses on random issues. This is not their support site - so lets not start acting that way. Stay on topic.

This is not a precedent we will allow.


Thank you.

[MattSanDiego]

Re: HELP NEEDED FROM SONY - Question regarding catcher freeze?

Thank you for the additional info. If you happen to remember, what were the number of outs and the counts? This is relevant because 3rd strikes that are not legally caught only count as dropped 3rd strikes when 1B is occupied if there are 2 outs, and in both cases mentioned, 1B was initially occupied. There is obviously some disconnect occurring which puts the catcher on a different page than everyone else.

I don't remember the specific counts, but of course on the dropped third strike with a runners on 1st and 2nd there were 2 outs. On the ball the catcher caught on the short hop with a runner stealing second, that wasn't a dropped 3rd strike, there were less than 2 strikes when the pitch was thrown. It was an issue because he was frozen and couldn't throw the runner out stealing 2nd. So it appears to happen occasionally when the catcher catches the pitch on a short hop and then needs to throw to a base. In this last case it was second b/c of a steal (less than 2 strikes, not sure of the outs), but usually it's first because there were 2 strikes. I've had it with 2 outs and runners on different bases, 2 outs with no one on, and with less than 2 outs and no one on first.

Looking back it actually happened three times yesterday, once in my favor. Here's one of the relevant game summaries:
Inning 10:
Rangers batting. Young lined to left for a single. Murphy bunted to the pitcher for a single. Young advances to 2nd. Dotel in bullpen. Valverde pitching. Moreland lined out to Peralta (L6). Andrus popped out to Fielder (P3). Kinsler struck out but reached first after it was dropped (E2). Hamilton struck out chasing a 1-2 high fastball, ending the inning.
Runs: 0 Hits: 2 Walks: 0 Errors: 1 Runners Left On: 3

I'll try and get video of this when it happens again. It's kind of random when it happens but "hopefully" it will be before too long. Assuming I can post youtube videos on here like you can on theshownation I'll post the video in this thread, or at least link to it. Though I'm new to this forum and it says I have to have 5 posts before I can post links. If that's an issue I'll post it on theshownation and tell you so in this thread. Or alternatively, I'm not too far from your guys San Diego office, one of you is welcome to post up for a couple games - I can point out a number of issues

[Woodweaver]

Re: HELP NEEDED FROM SONY - Question regarding catcher freeze?

I don't remember the specific counts, but of course on the dropped third strike with a runners on 1st and 2nd there were 2 outs. On the ball the catcher caught on the short hop with a runner stealing second, that wasn't a dropped 3rd strike, there were less than 2 strikes when the pitch was thrown. It was an issue because he was frozen and couldn't throw the runner out stealing 2nd. So it appears to happen occasionally when the catcher catches the pitch on a short hop and then needs to throw to a base. In this last case it was second b/c of a steal (less than 2 strikes, not sure of the outs), but usually it's first because there were 2 strikes. I've had it with 2 outs and runners on different bases, 2 outs with no one on, and with less than 2 outs and no one on first.

Looking back it actually happened three times yesterday, once in my favor. Here's one of the relevant game summaries:
Inning 10:
Rangers batting. Young lined to left for a single. Murphy bunted to the pitcher for a single. Young advances to 2nd. Dotel in bullpen. Valverde pitching. Moreland lined out to Peralta (L6). Andrus popped out to Fielder (P3). Kinsler struck out but reached first after it was dropped (E2). Hamilton struck out chasing a 1-2 high fastball, ending the inning.
Runs: 0 Hits: 2 Walks: 0 Errors: 1 Runners Left On: 3

I'll try and get video of this when it happens again. It's kind of random when it happens but "hopefully" it will be before too long. Assuming I can post youtube videos on here like you can on theshownation I'll post the video in this thread, or at least link to it. Though I'm new to this forum and it says I have to have 5 posts before I can post links. If that's an issue I'll post it on theshownation and tell you so in this thread. Or alternatively, I'm not too far from your guys San Diego office, one of you is welcome to post up for a couple games - I can point out a number of issues

Thanks for the info. That helps...seems as if everyone but the catcher realizes that pitch bounced. Hopefully last question: Did the catcher actually stand up and come into a "throw ready" stance, or did he stay in a crouch?

[MattSanDiego]

Re: HELP NEEDED FROM SONY - Question regarding catcher freeze?

Thanks for the info. That helps...seems as if everyone but the catcher realizes that pitch bounced. Hopefully last question: Did the catcher actually stand up and come into a "throw ready" stance, or did he stay in a crouch?

He always stays in his crouch, same basic position he'd be in as if he was catching a pitch. Crouched, right hand at waist behind his butt, left hand at left knee.

On the pitch with less than two strikes where someone was stealing second and he froze it's not as if it's a situation where he doesn't need to throw unless the ball hits the dirt and he somehow doesn't realize the situation has changed and he's now supposed to throw. I think you were on to something in an earlier post - maybe it's your new short hop animation randomly freezing when the camera pans back.

[HustlinOwl]

Re: HELP NEEDED FROM SONY - Question regarding catcher freeze?

Thanks for the info. That helps...seems as if everyone but the catcher realizes that pitch bounced. Hopefully last question: Did the catcher actually stand up and come into a "throw ready" stance, or did he stay in a crouch?

catcher freeze also occurs with no one on base and not only extra innings. Catcher remains in crotch

[Woodweaver]

Re: HELP NEEDED FROM SONY - Question regarding catcher freeze?

catcher freeze also occurs with no one on base and not only extra innings. Catcher remains in crotch

I think they have a powder for that issue.

[Knight165]

Re: HELP NEEDED FROM SONY - Question regarding catcher freeze?

I think they have a powder for that issue.

M.K.
Knight165

[Knight165]

Re: HELP NEEDED FROM SONY - Question regarding catcher freeze?



The things I laugh at.

M.K.
Knight165

[abcabc]

Re: HELP NEEDED FROM SONY - Question regarding catcher freeze?

i see a '13 in box coupon for tough actin tinactin... in b4 the lock!

[nemesis04]

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[game dawg]

Re: HELP NEEDED FROM SONY - Question regarding catcher freeze?

I think they have a powder for that issue.

I don't think that's funny Knight. Sounds like a vital piece of info weaver needs to take into consideration, as a developer I mean.

BTW: My kids are interested in more of your rosters, Knight. Making any this year?

[Tenkakahn]

Re: HELP NEEDED FROM SONY - Question regarding catcher freeze?

Very fun game but I am returning it today I simply can't stand 2-3 times per ATTEMPT at playing this game I have to restart my ps3 becuase the game freezes.

In Road To The Show if I am on first base and the computer thinks I am going to steal they throw a pitch out (atleast once per at bat because my speed is 99) if the catcher DROPS the pitch game freezes. I will have to press the PS button quit game and restart you guys have come quite a long ways from the first MLB the show but are still not there you should really think about testing a game before releasing it next time.

Thanks for your time and getting me back into baseball maybe next year I buy the new game but this year is way too flawed to be any fun to play.

[Woodweaver]

Very fun game

*SNIP*

you guys have come quite a long ways from the first MLB the show but are still not there you should really think about testing a game before releasing it next time.

*SNIP*

next year I buy the new game but this year is way too flawed to be any fun to play.

Not sure how this helps with the catcher freeze, but good point about the testing. We had not thought of that...I'll add "test before release" to the wish list. ;-)

We can probably shut this thread down at this point.

Thank you to everyone who gave some constructive feedback!