Check Swing Issue

[smlmeyer]

Let me start by saying I searched the bugs/glitches thread for this but didn't come up with anything. I'm playing with pure analog batting on Veteran difficulty with custom sliders.

The problem I'm having is that sometimes when I take a full swing, never intending to even let up a little bit, it will result in a check swing. Today I had a fastball right down the gut, a little high, waiting to be crushed 450 feet. I guessed the pitch and location, I go to put wood on that puppy and...check swing. Strike 2. I look at the Swing Analysis box. The yellow circle of where my contact is at is HUGE with the ball square in the middle. Stride timing was perfect, everything was perfect except for the check swing. Anybody have any explanation? I actually need a new controller anyhow so I'm gonna buy one today but a worn out analog stick be the culprit? That's the only thing I can even think of and I'm almost certain that that's the situation because also when I try to hold up for a check swing, even when I'm swinging for contact, it's nearly impossible to hold back. I'll pull back, push about halfway forward to about where the analog rests in static position, and it's a full swing. Just wanted to check OS for any input.

[ckarlic]

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Let me start by saying I searched the bugs/glitches thread for this but didn't come up with anything. I'm playing with pure analog batting on Veteran difficulty with custom sliders.

The problem I'm having is that sometimes when I take a full swing, never intending to even let up a little bit, it will result in a check swing. Today I had a fastball right down the gut, a little high, waiting to be crushed 450 feet. I guessed the pitch and location, I go to put wood on that puppy and...check swing. Strike 2. I look at the Swing Analysis box. The yellow circle of where my contact is at is HUGE with the ball square in the middle. Stride timing was perfect, everything was perfect except for the check swing. Anybody have any explanation? I actually need a new controller anyhow so I'm gonna buy one today but a worn out analog stick be the culprit? That's the only thing I can even think of and I'm almost certain that that's the situation because also when I try to hold up for a check swing, even when I'm swinging for contact, it's nearly impossible to hold back. I'll pull back, push about halfway forward to about where the analog rests in static position, and it's a full swing. Just wanted to check OS for any input.

I have had this happen to me a few times. Get a nice meat pitch and intend to do a full swing but my batter ends up check swinging. I was also thinking it may be my controller as well. May try getting a new controller as well.

[Cozar]

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I've had that happen when I got I pushed too hard on the analog, when it hits the bottom, it will slip along the bottom edge and the horizontal motion will start the swing. When you push up, you end up pulling the stick back toward the middle, which reverses the horizontal motion and causes a check swing.

[eyeamg0dly]

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ive had this same problem for the past two games. i dont think its an analog thing, because i use classic. as a result ive had to power swing in situations like that. im not sure how you do that with analog, but maybe it will help.

[Galvatron]

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This problem comes up for me at the very least once a game and has been happening since the first game played. It's already caused me a number of unintentional strikeouts in key spots and I've come dangerously close to shelving the game because of this. In trying to narrow down the cause I already ruled out a few things...

1. Its NOT the controller...between my year old controller and a friend's month old one its still happening at the same rate at about 1-3 times a game.

2. It happens with button AND analog...some posters here as well as the ShowNation forums have had this same problem with both methods.

3. It has nothing to do with Game mode being on/off...at least on my TV, happens on both settings.

4. Can happen whether your timing is good or not... like the OP said, the timing can be perfect, late or early with the ball centered in the contact circle, the hitter will refuse to finish his swing.

5. Can happen with power AND contact swings.

I should also mention that it tends to also happen with pitches OUT of the zone that I get fooled on when trying to swing, only to get the check swing instead. And I seriously doubt it has anything to do with the hitter's plate vision/discipline as it should mostly effect the success of an intentional check swing, and not a hitters decision to swing or not.

[MLB Bob]

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I have noticed this too. i play buttons with zone. It happened most recently when I was playing a 2 player game with a friend. He asked why it was constantly check swinging when he was continuing to hold down the button.

[smlmeyer]

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Appreciate all the responses, guys!

Yeah, I had to pick up a new controller anyway because I had two. One that I always used that felt just kinda worn in and a second one that had a button sticking issue, which I hate. So I bought a Candy Pink controller. Don't judge. It's snazzy. I had it happen once since getting the new controller and it sounds like it's not gonna fix the issue. I guess I will pay more attention to making my stick movement straight and consistent. As one poster pointed out, sometimes when you move too quickly your stick movement is all over the place. However, the counterargument to that is that people with buttons have the same issue. That REALLY puzzles me.

[nomo17k]

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There has been a discussion on this the past year (for MLB 11) I remember, since I sometimes have the same issue. In my case, this tends to happen on an off-speed pitch, especially curveball.

The reason why this happens (as far as my experience is concerned), is that you are actually unintentionally releasing the R2 stick before you fully commit.

To me this happens often on an off-speed stuff, especially a hanging curveball. It goes like this... I tend to judge strike/ball right after the release of the pitch. So when I see a hanger, my initial reaction tends to be "okay, this will be a ball." But of course if it's a curveball, it's going to come down for a strike, so when I realize that, I end up committing. However, my thumb is so used to relax and release R3 as soon as I decide not to swing on my initial reaction, so when I "correct" my decision and tries to swing, the analog interface already thinks that I "checked."

At least this is one way the issue happens.

This happens less and less as I get more practice in, but can still happen time to time. I'm still trying to learn not to release R3 till the pitch comes to the plate, but kinda hard to change my habit that I have developed for a long time.

[smlmeyer]

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Yeah, that is like a well-worded version of what I was kind of getting at. It stems from possible inconsistencies in stick movement. But that still doesn't explain it for the people who play with buttons...I dunno about that.

[Bobhead]

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Yeah, that is like a well-worded version of what I was kind of getting at. It stems from possible inconsistencies in stick movement. But that still doesn't explain it for the people who play with buttons...I dunno about that.

The Buttons thing is a separate and far less common issue. Your thumb is everything. I've had this happen to me while fielding (analog throwing, and also with the left analog stick while moving my PCI (zone hitting). It's not necessarily your fault, the PS3 analog sticks are weird and snappy, but the root of the problem is that you aren't paying enough attention to what your finger is doing on the stick. Try to physically keep the stick tilted upwards. Don't just let go and then use your thumb as a barrier (ie: continue to guide the stick upwards even after you've flicked it upwards.

I'd bet this happens far more frequently when the pitch comes to a certain side of the plate. Try paying attention to where the pitch is when this happens, you should see a pattern. Try to make sure you are accurately flicking the stick. The smallest tilt or waver will register as a swing before your swing. If you are trying to flick towards 11 o'clock, and your thumb makes even the slightest tilt towards 9 o'clock, that's a swing. Then as you continue moving upwards, the game thinks you are pulling back.

I hope I'm making sense. Again, it's technically the stick's fault, don't think I'm accusing you of anything, this is just the way I've found to avoid it.

[Baseball Purist]

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This has been a reoccurring problem in the show for years. It will happen once in awhile to where it's no big deal, but today I played a game and it happened about seven times. It's the most frustrating thing ever because as some posters have mentioned, it always happens on pitches that you can square up. Any advice? I'm using zone hitting.

[Baseball Purist]

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Ok the problem is getting out of hand to were it seems I should be posting in the "this game cheats" post. It's frustrating beyond belief to move the PCI to right location and time the pitch only to have a check swing animation. What is the deal?

[vinny_pizza]

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Glad to see it's not just me that this frustrates. I posted a similar issue last year on the TSN boards and it looked like it was only me. This happens at least once a game and i pretty much hold the controller with NO fingers near the R1/2 or L1/2 buttons.

Definitely frustrating!

[smearz]

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This happens to me a lot as well, at least 3 times every game. I play with zone hitting and it's happened so much that at first I though it was me just releasing the button too early all the time, especially on off-speed pitches, so then I started testing it and making sure I kept the button pressed completely through the swing and it still happens at the same frequency. I can't figure it out.

Have to say though, I've had many times where it's accidentally saved my butt on 2-strike counts, so I can't complain about that!

[vinny_pizza]

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Have to say though, I've had many times where it's accidentally saved my butt on 2-strike counts, so I can't complain about that!

Agreed! It does have some benefits.