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  • Knight165
    *ll St*r
    • Feb 2003
    • 24964

    #526
    Re: What Does MLB 13 The Show Need to do Next Year to Satisfy Your Baseball Gaming Ne

    Originally posted by CabreraMVP
    Few more: Like everybody else, I hate the red bar ratings. That is so 1980's video gaming! This game is head and shoulders above all other games ever made - except something as simple as ratings is totally worthless. Give us numbers! I want to know players TRUE ratings as opposed to glancing between two red bars trying to see a difference.

    Also, Verlander starts games throwing 92 or 93mph and will finish 100. It would be cool to find a way to do this in the games. As opposed to either being at 94 all game or 99 all game.

    Definitely NOT everyone else.
    Numbers......
    .....
    .....

    Numbered ratings anywhere in franchise mode other than the editor would be AWFUL.

    TOTALLY would ruin any sense or realism in sim mode.

    M.K.
    Knight165
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    • Spanky
      MVP
      • Nov 2002
      • 2785

      #527
      Re: What Does MLB 13 The Show Need to do Next Year to Satisfy Your Baseball Gaming Ne

      In addition to user stats, it would be great if we could use a player's game by game stats for the season (like in NBA 2k12). Or at least game by game for the most recent 10-20 games, instead of having to go through each box score individually.
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      • SoxFan01605
        All Star
        • Jan 2008
        • 7982

        #528
        Re: What Does MLB 13 The Show Need to do Next Year to Satisfy Your Baseball Gaming Ne

        Originally posted by CabreraMVP
        Few more: Like everybody else, I hate the red bar ratings. That is so 1980's video gaming! This game is head and shoulders above all other games ever made - except something as simple as ratings is totally worthless. Give us numbers! I want to know players TRUE ratings as opposed to glancing between two red bars trying to see a difference.
        We have numbers in the edit screen for players already. That's where they need to stay-for easier roster building, etc.

        If any attention is payed to this area, I'd actually go the opposite direction and not have bars OR numbers in franchise (again, outside of the editing screen). Have scouting reports where the accuracy is determined by the skill/experience of your scouts (even then, never 100%). That makes team building more realistic and make scouting matter (both in terms of effectiveness and budgeting).

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        • seanjeezy
          The Future
          • Aug 2009
          • 3347

          #529
          Re: What Does MLB 13 The Show Need to do Next Year to Satisfy Your Baseball Gaming Ne

          Originally posted by SoxFan01605
          We have numbers in the edit screen for players already. That's where they need to stay-for easier roster building, etc.

          If any attention is payed to this area, I'd actually go the opposite direction and not have bars OR numbers in franchise (again, outside of the editing screen). Have scouting reports where the accuracy is determined by the skill/experience of your scouts (even then, never 100%). That makes team building more realistic and make scouting matter (both in terms of effectiveness and budgeting).
          To piggyback off of this, I would love to see a scouting report page a la MVP where we can see some advanced scouting reports of the current and next opponent. Pitch repertoire, hot/cold zones, who's hot/cold, career batter/pitcher stats, etc. all in one screen would be an awesome addition.
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          • melvo21
            Rookie
            • Feb 2006
            • 88

            #530
            Re: What Does MLB 13 The Show Need to do Next Year to Satisfy Your Baseball Gaming Ne

            I think you guys should try what NBA 2k did, get classic teams and so some kind of challenge that lets you unlock other classic teams. Having their stadiums that they used at that time would be dope. This might not be the best idea that has been posted, but i think its a good one.

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            • Knight165
              *ll St*r
              • Feb 2003
              • 24964

              #531
              Re: What Does MLB 13 The Show Need to do Next Year to Satisfy Your Baseball Gaming Ne

              Originally posted by SoxFan01605
              We have numbers in the edit screen for players already. That's where they need to stay-for easier roster building, etc.

              If any attention is payed to this area, I'd actually go the opposite direction and not have bars OR numbers in franchise (again, outside of the editing screen). Have scouting reports where the accuracy is determined by the skill/experience of your scouts (even then, never 100%). That makes team building more realistic and make scouting matter (both in terms of effectiveness and budgeting).
              Absolutely. This is 100% correct IMO.
              I'd even go far to say that NUMBERS in sports games are archaic and outdated and need to go by the wayside(again...outside of the editor....there has to be a number to drive the simulation...that I understand)....but scouting reports as the main source of information is the way to go.

              Also....I've been playing sports games since the 80's...and it's always been nothing(rarely...maybe Wayne Gretzky hockey) or numbers as the way to see a players rating. Sorting by numbers in Front Page Sports Baseball become such a bore...most guys would barely notice the name of the player they were choosing in the draft.....trades.....for pinch running...etc.

              Originally posted by seanjeezy
              To piggyback off of this, I would love to see a scouting report page a la MVP where we can see some advanced scouting reports of the current and next opponent. Pitch repertoire, hot/cold zones, who's hot/cold, career batter/pitcher stats, etc. all in one screen would be an awesome addition.
              DEFINITELY. This would add so much to the strategy in the game.

              M.K.
              Knight165
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              • EnigmaNemesis
                Animal Liberation
                • Apr 2006
                • 12216

                #532
                Re: What Does MLB 13 The Show Need to do Next Year to Satisfy Your Baseball Gaming Ne

                Originally posted by Knight165
                Absolutely. This is 100% correct IMO.
                I'd even go far to say that NUMBERS in sports games are archaic and outdated and need to go by the wayside(again...outside of the editor....there has to be a number to drive the simulation...that I understand)....but scouting reports as the main source of information is the way to go.

                Also....I've been playing sports games since the 80's...and it's always been nothing(rarely...maybe Wayne Gretzky hockey) or numbers as the way to see a players rating. Sorting by numbers in Front Page Sports Baseball become such a bore...most guys would barely notice the name of the player they were choosing in the draft.....trades.....for pinch running...etc.



                DEFINITELY. This would add so much to the strategy in the game.

                M.K.
                Knight165
                Agreed with you as well.

                Not a fan of numbers, and also archaic indeed. I want scouting, scouting, scouting, where I am picking a guy for his NAME because I know his NAME due to a fleshed out scouting report!

                I want (INSERT NAME) to pinch run, not (SPEED 85).
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                • Knight165
                  *ll St*r
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 24964

                  #533
                  Re: What Does MLB 13 The Show Need to do Next Year to Satisfy Your Baseball Gaming Ne

                  Last word on this(I promise)

                  I would have no problem if they included either an option to shut off numbers(if they wanted to go with a number rating system...along with scouting reports) or to give the user the ability to turn on a number rating system(if they went with scouting reports as the main thrust)

                  M.K.
                  Knight165
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                  • MetsFan16
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1416

                    #534
                    Re: What Does MLB 13 The Show Need to do Next Year to Satisfy Your Baseball Gaming Ne

                    A mode that would be very exciting to play is similar to Madden Moments. Madden Moments are games that happened the previous season and were historic. Either it was a big comeback or a team made the big stop to win the game.
                    I think if MLB The Show was able to bring "MLB Moments" to MLB 13 The Show it would be a fun mode to play instead of RTTS and Franchise. We would jump into a game in the late innings or even the bottom of the 9th and we would control the team that got the big hit or a huge out to win the game.
                    Examples.) Games 162 in 2011. It would be a lot of fun if we could play as the Baltimore Orioles and walk off the Red Sox to eliminate them from the playoffs or play as the Tampa Bay Rays and walk off the Yankees to earn the playoff spot. Another game could be Travis Hafner's Ultimate Grand Slam against Toronto. And the best MLB Moment would be Game 6 of the 2011 World Series. Having to come back against the elite closer Neftali Feliz and ultimately win the game to force a Game 7.
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                    • strangeinternet
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 31

                      #535
                      Re: What Does MLB 13 The Show Need to do Next Year to Satisfy Your Baseball Gaming Ne

                      the interface between the battery and baserunners needs lots of improvement, as it is there is no sense of strategy or drama; good baserunners and pitchers (and catchers) who shut down the running game aren't represented accurately:

                      1. Snap Throws to the bases by catchers
                      -catchers should be able to catch baserunners leaning with snap throws

                      2. slide step and pitch from wind up with runners on base
                      -pitchers should be able to speed up their delivery with runners on base or choose to pitch from the windup to get more control in certain situations, easily done with a button command entered before pitch (like how you select a pick off)

                      3. already mentioned a million times but: user control on returning baserunner to bag during pick-off attempt

                      4. fix bug where runners ability/speed don't display when they are on second base in the pop-in window

                      5. include some way for pitcher to check the lead of the runner on second because some broadcast cams are too zoomed-in to show the runner.

                      6. need to factor in short-term endurance in pitcher-runner interface: a pitcher should be penalized for throwing over a dozen times in a row and a runner should lose speed/reflexes if he is continually forced to dive back to bag.

                      A random thing for the loading screen:
                      Why not display a scouting report for the pitcher alongside/instead of last season's numbers? This would be way more useful.

                      From another set of bigger issues:

                      1. consider implementing PYS-style temporary attributes for pitchers and batters. e.g. "good two strike hitter"; "increased control for put-away pitch"...these could be displayed either on screen or inside player attributes card and could vary amongst a certain set for a given player, to simulate hot/cold streaks...

                      2. also like others have said something like MVP's hitter's eye bonus (PYS has something like this where you can artificially see the spin on the ball like a real batter)
                      - in general PYS understands that baseball is a psychological game and not just one based on the visible cues you can see by watching a broadcast.
                      As it stands the Show really lacks in replicating the complicated psychological and perceptual elements in baseball because doing so would make the game "look" more video-gamey (PYS has icons and flashing announcements all over the screen) but the Show really needs to recognize that it is impossible to replicate the complexity of a baseball game/matchup/situation and stick with a totally "realistic" (i.e. broadcast) look.

                      right now playing the Show (to SCEA's credit) is a lot like watching a game T.V. but very little like being in the game itself... PYS does a much better job of balancing being "in the game" and "watching a game"..from the cursor hot-spot, and magnified spin features of batting to the insights into the various players mindsets and in-the-moment emotions.

                      The Show is reaching the limit of expressing the complexity (and fun!) of baseball within its broadcast format.

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                      • jethrotull
                        Pro
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 988

                        #536
                        I love the idea of having classic teams as long as every player was on it. We also would need to be able to edit them instead of having them "locked" until a certain point. We also need to be able to integrate the teams into custom offline franchises as well.
                        Any addition to classic stadiums would be awesome!

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                        • mcseven
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 162

                          #537
                          Re: What Does MLB 13 The Show Need to do Next Year to Satisfy Your Baseball Gaming Ne

                          I think the show is as good as it gets and almost perfect to me. The one thing I would change and I don't know if its been mentioned would be to let us import the new players from roster updates into our existing franchises. I'm using Knight's rosters right now but that would be a nice option to have. Also it's way too hard to steal bases on this game in my opinion. I don't mind the commentary that much because after 100 or so games I tend to tune them out anyway.
                          Last edited by mcseven; 08-29-2012, 12:44 PM.

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                          • brrmikey
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 826

                            #538
                            Re: What Does MLB 13 The Show Need to do Next Year to Satisfy Your Baseball Gaming Ne

                            First, I'm grateful to SCEA that I have to be extremely nitpicky here. I almost feel like a spoiled brat responding to this thread because the game is great and I appreciate the level of quality and authenticity of the product.

                            1. I would love to have separate pitch speeds for Human and CPU. I enjoy pitching to the CPU using Legend difficulty, pitch speed max. But, since I use BTP view and zone batting, I would love to be able to slow the pitch speed down a notch or two for the CPU so that I can take advantage of the better hit variety I find with the smaller cursor when using Legend hitting. At the moment, I have to use Rookie-All star to compete with pitch speed maxed at 10. Also, if I was able to control the CPU pitch speed separately I could even test out turning off the cursor. I look to achieve being able to play the game and have it still look like I'm just watching the real thing...if that makes sense.

                            2. I love total broadcast, it definitely takes me there. The only cut scene I could do without is when the pitcher is zoomed in close by the camera for a close-up. I would love to just see it switch over zoomed in like it already does zoomed out a bit. This takes away from the realism a bit...I've never seen the camera zoom in on the pitcher that close and in that way during a real MLB game.

                            3. I would love a transparency slider control (0-100%) for the zone cursor so i could make less bold. An option for just a standard circle (like seen in '11) would be nice also. But of course If separate CPU pitch speed comes through, I potentially could be able to turn cursor off.

                            4. I use classic pitching , guess pitch off, pitch/swing info off. I would love the ability to turn off the pitch type/selection icon (offense and defense) and resort to memory or having it written on a piece of paper that I can look at if I had to. I also would love to be able to turn off all the post pitch information but keep the MPH information that is displayed next to the score information at the top...I like seeing how fast the pitch is coming in w/o having to turn on some other clutter. I'm glad I can at least turn off the pitch/swing analysis information. Again, just trying to have it look like a real MLB game...e.g. Broadcast fielding cam with auto fielding works well in achieving this.

                            5. The commentary is not terrible but could be better. But what is really missing IMO is an organic feel to how they sound...it's like they're not even at the ballpark let alone in the same room with each other. Something with the atmosphere of the commentators and the crowd is off a bit...hard to explain...it just doesn't sound organic.

                            6. It would be nice to similar angles of the crowd going after foul balls then cutting back to the batter, like in real MLB games on TV. It would be nice to see the crowd move out of the way on fouls straight back like they do on tv even when the net is there...lol

                            Sorry, if these wishes are shallow. I'm a 35 year old player with a child who still loves to play the game when time allows and I only play single season...I play every game and get to about 100 games into a season before next year's info starts to trickle out...then I get hyped off screenshots and trailers...eventually some gameplay vids...then play the new demo...then delete it...then put my 5$ down payment for the new game...then go back to the current game until the call comes...then go pick up the new one / trade in the old one...rinse and repeat.
                            Last edited by brrmikey; 08-29-2012, 03:47 PM.

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                            • bermcq
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 235

                              #539
                              Re: What Does MLB 13 The Show Need to do Next Year to Satisfy Your Baseball Gaming Ne

                              They should add the option to upload your franchise or season from last year to this year. Every year we have to start are year over and we don't have ouue stats we posted up from last season
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                              • XxLouCatXx
                                Rookie
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 70

                                #540
                                Re: What Does MLB 13 The Show Need to do Next Year to Satisfy Your Baseball Gaming Ne

                                Some sort of game face function and expansion teams or the ability to move teams into different divisions etc...would be nice.
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