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  • thaSLAB
    [Player 1]
    • Feb 2008
    • 4495

    #61
    Re: Just a Few More MLB 13 The Show Features Revealed

    Originally posted by Unit303
    Yeah, until something is done about the grass and dirt we see in ever baseball stadium every game we ever go to, then this is going to be brought up by a myriad number of people. It's something that simply cannot be overlooked year after year. I don't care if you think it is whining. When I go to a stadium these are some of the things that stand out and they are sorely lacking in the best sports game out there.

    And they are not that hard to fix! That is what the whole problem is. I see modders do beyond excellent grass and clouds so I know a paid dev team is capable of these things.
    Actually, it is not as easy as you think. Well, the addition of higher texture grass probably is, but you have to realize that with that comes a compromise; usually in the realm of framerate. I think it is a good balance on the environments overall. Take the games that have "3D grass", then look at the crowds/sidelines in those games... And realize that those mods you speak of are for PC versions of games. As much as people think that these consoles are supercomputers, there are many limitations that developers have to work around. I think SD Studios takes better advantage of the given hardware than anyone out there, aside from few other, Sony first-party teams.

    So it's not a case of it being overlooked, or ignored, it's just not going to be done at the expense of overall game quality. Like econoodle said, they want these things just as much as we do.
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    • Unit303
      Rookie
      • Feb 2012
      • 224

      #62
      Re: Just a Few More MLB 13 The Show Features Revealed

      I do realize they are for PC as I play them on my high-end PC. It doesn't have to be high-res textures and it doesn't really have to be extremely demanding clouds. All it takes is some creativity and objective analysis of how clouds and grass look. Right now they are pretty mediocre if you ask me. And I'm not sure we are the same page. Who ever mentioned 3D grass? As if the PS3 has a chance in hell of pulling that off decently in a sports game.

      This is still a lowly 720p we are talking about here. It's nothing special. We aren't talking high-res anything just improved and more realistic look to what is already there. Plenty of games on PS3 like Killzone and Uncharted and a lot of other games have shown much of this is capable with higher budgets and it has even trickled down to lower budget games at this point. Modders are not exactly modding JUST for high-res machines I don't see your point at all. Lower your resolution and framerate and the mod still works and it still looks great. It has nothing to do with taxing the system really. We are talking some grass textures and better clouds. That isn't going to ruin a PS3 lol. These guys have some outstanding hookups so I know it is possible.

      I'll give you the PS3 is an ancient machine but I never said I was expecting 3D grass and 1080p 60fps so.... I also said the main problem is color matching and it IS a huge problem. I don't know but if anybody here actually attends baseball games I don't know how you wouldn't want improvements in the color area.
      Last edited by Unit303; 12-06-2012, 06:08 PM.

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      • MLB Bob
        MVP
        • Jan 2011
        • 1008

        #63
        Re: Just a Few More MLB 13 The Show Features Revealed

        Originally posted by Unit303
        I do realize they are for PC as I play them on my high-end PC. It doesn't have to be high-res textures and it doesn't really have to be extremely demanding clouds. All it takes is some creativity and objective analysis of how clouds and grass look. Right now they are pretty mediocre if you ask me. And I'm not sure we are the same page. Who ever mentioned 3D grass? As if the PS3 has a chance in hell of pulling that off decently in a sports game.

        This is still a lowly 720p we are talking about here. It's nothing special. We aren't talking high-res anything just improved and more realistic look to what is already there. Plenty of games on PS3 like Killzone and Uncharted and a lot of other games have shown much of this is capable with higher budgets and it has even trickled down to lower budget games at this point. Modders are not exactly modding JUST for high-res machines I don't see your point at all. Lower your resolution and framerate and the mod still works and it still looks great. It has nothing to do with taxing the system really. We are talking some grass textures and better clouds. That isn't going to ruin a PS3 lol. These guys have some outstanding hookups so I know it is possible.

        I'll give you the PS3 is an ancient machine but I never said I was expecting 3D grass and 1080p 60fps so.... I also said the main problem is color matching and it IS a huge problem. I don't know but if anybody here actually attends baseball games I don't know how you wouldn't want improvements in the color area.
        Then just except its a conspiracy to keep grass and clouds from looking real. Just because it isnt 110% accurate doesnt means its trash. Priorities, and to some, their opinions about what is a priority doesnt match what they want. Its not like the grass is purple instead of green or clouds are tigerstriped, they are doing more than an acceptable job, IMO.

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        • Unit303
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          • Feb 2012
          • 224

          #64
          Re: Just a Few More MLB 13 The Show Features Revealed

          The clouds and grass textures are acceptable. The hideous color matching is not IMO. They set the bar not me. When fields don't look even 5% like their real life counterparts, as in Toronto, you do have to take a look at what is going on with the game.

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          • Lovesports
            Rookie
            • Jul 2011
            • 469

            #65
            Re: Just a Few More MLB 13 The Show Features Revealed

            Originally posted by Unit303
            The clouds and grass textures are acceptable. The hideous color matching is not IMO. They set the bar not me. When fields don't look even 5% like their real life counterparts, as in Toronto, you do have to take a look at what is going on with the game.
            You can always play 2k which has stunning graphics, zombie like player models and accurate uniform colors hahaha

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            • Armor and Sword
              The Lama
              • Sep 2010
              • 21790

              #66
              Re: Just a Few More MLB 13 The Show Features Revealed

              Originally posted by Unit303
              The clouds and grass textures are acceptable. The hideous color matching is not IMO. They set the bar not me. When fields don't look even 5% like their real life counterparts, as in Toronto, you do have to take a look at what is going on with the game.
              Whaaaat?

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              • riotmonster
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                • May 2011
                • 115

                #67
                Re: Just a Few More MLB 13 The Show Features Revealed

                I will never play this game again due to the grass not being green enough.

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                • Woodweaver
                  Developer
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 1145

                  #68
                  Originally posted by riotmonster
                  I will never play this game again due to the grass not being green enough.
                  I thought it was too green. I heard it's always greener.

                  On a serious note, I do know you have been heard, but I don't know what changes would entail or where they live on a priority list. I'll ask.
                  "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"

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                  • riotmonster
                    Rookie
                    • May 2011
                    • 115

                    #69
                    Re: Just a Few More MLB 13 The Show Features Revealed

                    Originally posted by Woodweaver
                    I thought it was too green. I heard it's always greener.

                    On a serious note, I do know you have been heard, but I don't know what changes would entail or where they live on a priority list. I'll ask.
                    Is the complaint about the grass that it's too green or not green enough? I don't even know any more. I say make it blue like Bronco Stadium.

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                    • thaSLAB
                      [Player 1]
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 4495

                      #70
                      Re: Just a Few More MLB 13 The Show Features Revealed

                      Originally posted by Unit303
                      The clouds and grass textures are acceptable. The hideous color matching is not IMO. They set the bar not me. When fields don't look even 5% like their real life counterparts, as in Toronto, you do have to take a look at what is going on with the game.
                      Spoiler


                      I'm starting to warm up to your argument though, in fact, I think in the case of Comerica Park we demand they add the discolored squares in the outfield grass that stem from the concert stage during the offseason.

                      And if you really want to get technical... The Grass Is Always Greener.
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                      • joshize
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 91

                        #71
                        Re: Just a Few More MLB 13 The Show Features Revealed

                        Originally posted by thevaliantx
                        Will the following be addressed in the MLB: The Show 13?

                        * AI not throwing, over to try and pick off a runner.

                        * AI rarely, even on highest slider setting, attempting to steal

                        * one-pitch mode. speeds things up greatly. OOTP has it. It doesn't affect the game negatively in any way

                        * glitches in team schedules, causing system to lock up or franchises to have to be restarted

                        * lack of variety in hits. There should be obvious hooks and slices that aren't just foul balls

                        * improvement in the animations library. the same ol' characters walking up and down the stairs in robotic fashion really took a lot from the feel of the gam.

                        * realistic player injuries (injury animation, frequency of injuries according to type, length of injury)

                        * actual players in the system, not fake minor league player names.

                        I'm noticing that game experiences are so different. I turn the CPU Pickoff Attempt Slider DOWN because they throw over all the time!! It's annoying to get through an at bat with a fast runner on base. Also, they steal all the time against me. I would more complain about not hurrying to throw a pitch out because I can't throw a base stealer out.

                        About injuries... the biggest one, to me, is when a pitcher gets hit by a batted ball. There's a 5 minute speech in the game about whether or not he is hurt... but he's NEVER hurt. Just take the 5 minute speech out unless he's actually going to have a chance to be hurt. lol (Just take the speech out because i'd rather that change be made other than changing it to too many injuries.)

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                        • Unit303
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 224

                          #72
                          Re: Just a Few More MLB 13 The Show Features Revealed

                          I love what The Show offers. It's not like I am NOT going to buy the game. But at 60 that does demand a lot from people. They said they would work on the grass and ambiance but I fully respect if they were too busy. If they can however get some dude to go over the color matching of the fields for two weeks I would plop down 60 in a second. If not I can wait I guess. (cries)

                          Also, thanks for the list. No idea so many used Kentucky Blue Grass.
                          Last edited by Unit303; 12-10-2012, 11:08 PM.

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                          • Bahnzo
                            Can't spell antetokounmpo
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 2809

                            #73
                            Re: Just a Few More MLB 13 The Show Features Revealed

                            Originally posted by Tweeg
                            I'd love to find out there is a way to convert a MLB 12 franchise save to continue my league in MLB 13.
                            Originally posted by Money99
                            This!
                            And do it for RTTS as well, please!
                            I've asked for this for a couple years now. Apparently they can't/won't/aren't able to do it....so they say.
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                            • bp4baseball
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1315

                              #74
                              Re: Just a Few More MLB 13 The Show Features Revealed

                              Originally posted by Bahnzo
                              I've asked for this for a couple years now. Apparently they can't/won't/aren't able to do it....so they say.
                              Yep, it's a conspiracy so only they can keep their files from year to year

                              If they could implement it without messing everything else up they would.
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                              • nemesis04
                                RIP Ty My Buddy
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 13530

                                #75
                                Re: Just a Few More MLB 13 The Show Features Revealed

                                Originally posted by bp4baseball
                                Yep, it's a conspiracy so only they can keep their files from year to year

                                If they could implement it without messing everything else up they would.
                                I believe it is something they are open to but have not figured a way where it would not cause a train wreck when loaded up into the current game. The littlest misalignment throws the game way off. Heck, sometimes rosters released for the current version of the game throw it off and freeze. Just imagine what a previous version's save file would do.
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