First Candidate For MLB 13 The Show Cover is Bryce Harper, More Details Revealed

[Knight165]

Re: First Candidate For MLB 13 The Show Cover is Bryce Harper, More Details Revealed

Will players still retire mid contract?

Working on it.
I'm pretty sure they can code it not to happen....and if they do, using the FA3 swap bug will ensure that users can keep the guys they want to see from retiring...from retiring.

M.K.
Knight165

[Knight165]

Re: First Candidate For MLB 13 The Show Cover is Bryce Harper, More Details Revealed

thats good and all, but waiting for a true online franchise ala NCAA online dynasty 2007

Stand in line.
I'm still waiting for a true Manage only Mode and two player Manage only Mode online!

M.K.
Knight165

[Falcon999]

I understand all the constraints in the gaming engine, numbers of A-B-C-D and numbers of Pitchers and Position players etc, but a solution would be to let roster making do whatever they want and do the validation of the roster before saving or even using it in Franchise mode. Or maybe having a feature where roster makers can save a working copy with no validation but where you can only upload it once it's validated for numbers A-B-C-Ds and position wise.

That way both sides would be happy I think ( except the dev who'll have to code it :-)

Sounds to be a good midway solution to me

[ffyfe7]

One issue I had with MLB 12 was the trade logic, is that something that is being addressed so we won't see massively lopsided trades (e.g. 3 'A' prospects for a 'C' rated 31 year old utility player)? I had to use 30-team control and it made simming multiple seasons a real chore as you had to constantly check trade offers to make sure they were somewhat realistic.

Nothing will ever be perfect but last year was atrocious in my honest opinion.

[tabarnes19_SDS]

Re: First Candidate For MLB 13 The Show Cover is Bryce Harper, More Details Revealed

One issue I had with MLB 12 was the trade logic, is that something that is being addressed so we won't see massively lopsided trades (e.g. 3 'A' prospects for a 'C' rated 31 year old utility player)? I had to use 30-team control and it made simming multiple seasons a real chore as you had to constantly check trade offers to make sure they were somewhat realistic.

Nothing will ever be perfect but last year was atrocious in my honest opinion.

Like you said it will never be perfect because as humans we put emotion into decisions and go by hunches and data. The CPU sees attributes, salary, age and potential, factored by team needs.

Every year they tweak it. I know my biggest pet peeve is the trade of one position for the same position. A team in a playoff push will trade a good young player for one with similar attributes, but older at the same position. That is one thing that I would like see changed. The team that has that good younger player would try to upgrade somewhere else instead of a lateral move.

[Knight165]

Re: First Candidate For MLB 13 The Show Cover is Bryce Harper, More Details Revealed

One issue I had with MLB 12 was the trade logic, is that something that is being addressed so we won't see massively lopsided trades (e.g. 3 'A' prospects for a 'C' rated 31 year old utility player)? I had to use 30-team control and it made simming multiple seasons a real chore as you had to constantly check trade offers to make sure they were somewhat realistic.

Nothing will ever be perfect but last year was atrocious in my honest opinion.

You mean less atrocious like the latest D-Backs/Reds/Indians trade?!

M.K.
Knight165

[DodgerFanatic2K3]

Re: First Candidate For MLB 13 The Show Cover is Bryce Harper, More Details Revealed

You mean less atrocious like the latest D-Backs/Reds/Indians trade?!

M.K.
Knight165

After seeing the trades that have gone down in baseball the last 4 months I will never think of another trade in the game as being "unrealistic" :wink:

[ThrowBack]

Re: First Candidate For MLB 13 The Show Cover is Bryce Harper, More Details Revealed

Any chance we get a coach/scout editor this year?

[zippy2212]

Re: First Candidate For MLB 13 The Show Cover is Bryce Harper, More Details Revealed

Any chance we get a coach/scout editor this year?

I hope with what sounds like extra emphasis on scouts and coaches this year, that this is in.

[dlk90514]

Re: First Candidate For MLB 13 The Show Cover is Bryce Harper, More Details Revealed

Just from seeing how SCEA operates....I can tell you that the franchise mode "overhaul" will be in stages.

First....there was no way they would rip everything apart and go whole hog in one fell swoop.
This is a good thing though IMO. It allows us more input from year to year to recommend and request features to help shape the franchise mode. AaronSCEA and LuisSCEA(and NickSCEA, who has some really great ideas as well) have an excellent vision for how they would like franchise mode to run.

Secondly....even this first phase of changes .....is open for fine tuning from what I gather from the devs....which I think is because it's not all done at once and it gives a better chance for the team to see what works and what needs adjusting a little easier.(rather than having to deal with EVERYTHING at once).

Finally.....It's good to see the passion that the community has for the game and thankfully, the dev team sees it to and listens to us!

M.K.
Knight165

I'm pretty sure that I have read this in the past Knight, but aren't you a fan of the GM getting fired/having goals to meet? I was just curious if this is something that we might see the team implemented again in the future. I always liked having that variable in the game.

[ThrowBack]

Re: First Candidate For MLB 13 The Show Cover is Bryce Harper, More Details Revealed

I hope with what sounds like extra emphasis on scouts and coaches this year, that this is in.

I hope so. I would like to be able to edit Walt Weiss's cornrowed doppleganger next year.

[Bobhead]

Re: First Candidate For MLB 13 The Show Cover is Bryce Harper, More Details Revealed

You mean less atrocious like the latest D-Backs/Reds/Indians trade?!

M.K.
Knight165

After seeing the trades that have gone down in baseball the last 4 months I will never think of another trade in the game as being "unrealistic" :wink:

The trades that have happened in real life have been crazy, but I would not call them incomprehensible. I think the guy was more referring to how the CPU settles in terms of benefit, and offers trades that do not benefit them at all. For example, I got offered a trade last month where I got Brandon League, Miguel Olivo, and Brendan Ryan (a shortstop), in exchange for 1 single, average, shortstop prospect. Obviously I took it. If you simply take Ryan out of the trade, it looks a lot more realistic, since you can argue they need a shortstop for the future or something, but Ryan is a pretty young guy, and he's a shortstop, so literally they accomplished nothing at all. All they did was hurt themselves. That's where I think the most objective issue with the trade logic can be identified.

There definitely exists an objective separation between a poor trade, and a pointless trade. A poor trade I'd define as one where you trade something you don't need for something you want, but the values don't match. I can pay 3000 bucks for a toaster. That would be an extremely bad purchase. However, regardless of what I paid for it, it is by no means a pointless purchase. I had the 3000 to spend, and got something I value: a toaster.

A real-life example would be the Miami blockbuster trade. You can argue Miami got less than they could have, but at the end of the day, they traded what was of no value to them (failing, expensive superstars) and received something they valued highly (multiple prospects). We can argue all day about how "good" the trade is - that is, whether the benefits outweigh the cost - but I don't think it matters. At the end of the day, it matters only that there ARE benefits to the trade.

A pointless trade would me trading my toaster for another toaster of lesser quality, design, or whatever else. Or me trading my only toaster for a blender, when I already own a blender. I gave up something I value, in a toaster, and received something of no value, in the blender I don't need. These are the types of transactions I think people have the most problems with, and the type that I'd like to see diminished or protected against in future games.

To summarize: I think the issue in the trade logic is that the AI seems to only exclusively compare one side of the trade to the other. Is what I'm receiving greater than or equal to what I'm giving up? What the AI needs to evaluate more profusely, is comparing what you receive to what you already have, eg: making the trade vs making no trade at all.

[Falcon999]

Re: First Candidate For MLB 13 The Show Cover is Bryce Harper, More Details Revealed

After Harper now comes CC !!!

http://mlb.mlb.com/covervote/

sounds we'll have 3 candidates !!

[seanjeezy]

Re: First Candidate For MLB 13 The Show Cover is Bryce Harper, More Details Revealed

After Harper now comes CC !!!

http://mlb.mlb.com/covervote/

sounds we'll have 3 candidates !!

Wait, so that's it? three choices, two of which weren't even close to being the best player in the league last year? The third player better be from a west coast team at least...

[fnz21]

Wait, so that's it? three choices, two of which weren't even close to being the best player in the league last year? The third player better be from a west coast team at least...

Mike Trout?