Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

[MrOldboy]

Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

I all ready covered that. Sony may own SECA but they are ran as separate companies. All SECA games are still charged the PSN fees. Yes, it's stupid and a loop in the end, but that's not the way business works SECA has to take off those fees at the end of the year when they report their profits that is all that matters. I did not provide any kind of reasoning or logic, just stated how the system works. Yes, the bandwidth cost overall is small and they do not have to give retailers their cut but PSN takes their cut instead and charges bandwidth fees that far exceed that actual cost of providing the service.

Exactly, but would SONY not charge developers for the manufacturing costs and distribution of the game as well? Does that not affect their reported profits? I'd like to know the numbers since I doubt the cost of the PSN fees outweighs the cost of a retail disc (manufacturing, distribution, retailers etc).

I wonder what the real reason The Show isn't sold on PSN. Is it just the extra cost of creating a PSN version, are the PSN fees that high, or do they think the game has a better chance at market being a disc only game?

I dont think its the cost of putting the game on PSN (I think there is a much higher profit margin on digital sales compared to retail ones). It might just be that they think noone will buy a game that is 20+ gb on PSN.

But then again look at the Mass effect Trilogy and Rockstar collections on PSN, both cost $60 and are over 30+gb

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/12/04/playstation-store-update-268/

Uncharted 2 is also over 20+gb and on the store.

[CubsHOF]

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Exactly, but would SONY not charge developers for the manufacturing costs and distribution of the game as well? Does that not affect their reported profits? I'd like to know the numbers since I doubt the cost of the PSN fees outweighs the cost of a retail disc (manufacturing, distribution, retailers etc).

I wonder what the real reason The Show isn't sold on PSN. Is it just the extra cost of creating a PSN version, are the PSN fees that high, or do they think the game has a better chance at market being a disc only game?

I dont think its the cost of putting the game on PSN (I think there is a much higher profit margin on digital sales compared to retail ones). It might just be that they think noone will buy a game that is 20+ gb on PSN.

But then again look at the Mass effect Trilogy and Rockstar collections on PSN, both cost $60 and are over 30+gb

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/12/04/playstation-store-update-268/

Uncharted 2 is also over 20+gb and on the store.

Yeah I think that is all pretty much correct. I would like an answer as well as all any of us can contribute is just the little bit we know about the process. With other games of that size in the store you are right it is probably not the price. I think more where the developers complain about the bandwidth cost is for game demos where they get charged just a ton of money because of all the free downloads. I think the PSN is just too slow for big downloads but if others want to then they should have the option.

[Cavicchi]

Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

Exactly, but would SONY not charge developers for the manufacturing costs and distribution of the game as well? Does that not affect their reported profits? I'd like to know the numbers since I doubt the cost of the PSN fees outweighs the cost of a retail disc (manufacturing, distribution, retailers etc).

I wonder what the real reason The Show isn't sold on PSN. Is it just the extra cost of creating a PSN version, are the PSN fees that high, or do they think the game has a better chance at market being a disc only game?

I dont think its the cost of putting the game on PSN (I think there is a much higher profit margin on digital sales compared to retail ones). It might just be that they think noone will buy a game that is 20+ gb on PSN.

But then again look at the Mass effect Trilogy and Rockstar collections on PSN, both cost $60 and are over 30+gb

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/12/04/playstation-store-update-268/

Uncharted 2 is also over 20+gb and on the store.

Well now, so much for the size theory.

[keymax]

There is a long thread about people from all over the world trying to order the game from the us and canada. I think some of them would love to download the game instead. I just hope to get a statement from the devs if there will be a download version so I know if I have to place a preorder.

[CubsHOF]

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Well now, so much for the size theory.

Depends on the developer. What works for one game does not work for another. Still, seems as if there is more to it.

[Cavicchi]

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Depends on the developer. What works for one game does not work for another. Still, seems as if there is more to it.

Well, I don't see size as a factor at all, but then I'm just a video game player without inside information.

[Knight165]

Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

Perhaps throw this question into any one of the CD threads(mine is the franchise thread)....and we'll try and find out anything we can as to their thoughts on this.

M.K.
Knight165

[Cavicchi]

Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

Perhaps throw this question into any one of the CD threads(mine is the franchise thread)....and we'll try and find out anything we can as to their thoughts on this.

M.K.
Knight165

The only way I'd buy this game is if it were available for download. I've bought the game last 2 years and encountered optical drive problems every year, and had to send my PS3 in for service. I don't know why those optical issues come up, don't have any on my Xbox 360. But, it is enough of an issue that downloading is the only way I'd buy the game.

In essence, I don't care why, just have it available for download or it's a no sale for me.

[thaSLAB]

Perhaps throw this question into any one of the CD threads(mine is the franchise thread)....and we'll try and find out anything we can as to their thoughts on this.

M.K.
Knight165

LOL, I previously said I had no further comment on this topic, but I did put it on my list to bring up (again), at CD. I highly doubt it'll happen from Ramone's previous statements about it, but maybe we can get it "from the horses mouth" and finally put it to rest. I wouldn't expect a reason behind why though.


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[Knight165]

Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

LOL, I previously said I had no further comment on this topic, but I did put it on my list to bring up (again), at CD. I highly doubt it'll happen from Ramone's previous statements about it, but maybe we can get it "from the horses mouth" and finally put it to rest. I wouldn't expect a reason behind why though.


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I missed it.
Did Ramone address it already?
Sorry.:o

M.K.
Knight165

[Number2DJ]

Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

It would be nice for those with plenty of hard drive space, but I prefer having my console games on disc. Hopefully MLB The Show will eventually make it's way to the PSN Store.

[Bobhead]

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I missed it.
Did Ramone address it already?
Sorry.:o

M.K.
Knight165

Yeah. He said #@%&@$%&@@$!

[CubsHOF]

Re: Will the Show 13 be available via the PS Store?

Well, I don't see size as a factor at all, but then I'm just a video game player without inside information.

Yes, it has all ready been explaining why size can be a factor especially on a network with poor infrastructure like PSN. PS3's do have optical disk issues time to time but it's not possible for only a certain game or one disk to be causing the issue simply not the nature of problem.

[nomo17k]

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Yes, it has all ready been explaining why size can be a factor especially on a network with poor infrastructure like PSN. PS3's do have optical disk issues time to time but it's not possible for only a certain game or one disk to be causing the issue simply not the nature of problem.

Yeah I think optical disc issue is such an unreasonable reason for not getting the game...

However, I sometimes wonder why the Show keeps accessing the disc during the game, quite often in the midst of pitch! It doesn't really seem necessary, and only seems to cause hiccups that throw off timing. Maybe that explains why the Show cannot be released as a stand alone download package? Because some contents must be accessed from the disc? Weird.

[CubsHOF]

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Yeah I think optical disc issue is such an unreasonable reason for not getting the game...

However, I sometimes wonder why the Show keeps accessing the disc during the game, quite often in the midst of pitch! It doesn't really seem necessary, and only seems to cause hiccups that throw off timing. Maybe that explains why the Show cannot be released as a stand alone download package? Because some contents must be accessed from the disc? Weird.

I noticed that as well. You might really be on to something there. I know the read rate from optical disk to memory is a lot faster than hard drive to memory so that sounds like that could be a real possibility.

I'm just not sure that there is a reason why the game has not been available for as a download before. Some games make it and some do not. We see more and more companies wanting to us digital distribution so I am sure at some point we will see it, especially next gen. It could be just too much work to make the game so it will work 100% with a hard drive. SECA has to make decisions of what to work on in a given year and what to wait until next year and if extra work has to be done then maybe they are just prioritizing their time. Do not get me wrong there are people who want it digital for whatever reason, especially if they are not in the US and I would like to see them have the option, but these things take time. It would be interesting from a technological point of view to know why, but if your system is having trouble with the optical disk you have a faulty PS3. I had to buy a second system because of the issue and it does suck, but its not any given game causing the issue.