Community Day 2013 - VITA Version - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

[thaSLAB]

Ok, instead of quoting posts individually and answering, I will just put everything in one post. If I missed a question, feel free to ask and I'll try to remember.

As far as the Vita version is concerned:

- All the same modes as PS3 version, except Diamond Dynasty. (Yes, even The Show Live)
- Universal Profile
- Online CrossPlay HR Derby
- No Rain
- Same Stadium updates as PS3 (no Classic Stadiums)
- No batter walk-ups
- Button Accuracy throwing is in
- Still no button to switch players while fielding (a mystery to Nem and myself too)
- There is pre-game and mid inning presentation (no score OSD tho. Although it was in for MOMode?)
- No selectable presentation style (can't make less or more)
- no post-game presentation, except player of the game OSD
- There are strikeout cutscenes
- K's accumulate in stadiums
- The "OUT" "FOUL" popups are gone.
- No custom cams, but more cams added
- Same fielding cam options
- No players in dugout
- Schedule match real times, for the most part (some Saturday games were listed at 3:30 but real life schedule says 12:30. Some were off by 5 minutes, but very minor)
- As stated, the ball is 10% smaller
- The same SimCast/Fast Forward feature as the PS3 version.
- Will be available as a downloadable title on PSN


And for the major concerns... Yes, players do look better, but of course still not as detailed as PS3. The lighting is slightly better (day and night games).and the graphics are more crisp. The crowd looks a lot better too. I took a picture of 12 and 13 running side by side, but I'll have to get permission to post it first. I didn't see any pitching or cutscene slowdowns, but I still don't know the exact framerate it was running. It was noticeably more stable however. I didn't play with the volume up very loud, or with headphones so sorry I can't comment.

Overall I think it is a very nice upgrade from 12, just for the additions from both versions. I don't see anyone playing it and thinking its the same game or just a roster update. There are some things I'm sure we wanted added, but lets keep asking anyway, going forward. Lastly, I don't know the resolution was, but overall I thought it looked very good visually.

There you have it, my impressions.


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[nomo17k]

Re: Community Day 2013 - VITA Version - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

One thing that I mention that could be important to some is that the pitch delay option seems to be working as intended (fast, normal, slow).

One complaint that I often heard last year was that Fast Play is too quick, little time between pitches. By using slow pitch delay setting, you can now slow down the game quite a bit.

The option wasn't working for MLB 12... I believe it was a bug (which was not patched like the PS3 version got).

[geisterhome]

so which version made the bigger step forward from what they were last year according to your first impressions, the vita or ps3?

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[MrOldboy]

Re: Community Day 2013 - VITA Version - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

I'm about to board my plane, but when we say memory we are indeed talking about storage data on the game cartridge, not processing...

Here's a quote by Russell that illustrates the data storage concern. Even though he says memory they are not referring to system memory (as in Random Access Memory or RAM), they are referring to data storage on the Vita carts which most people do not refer to as memory (but it is not wrong to refer to the data storage on the vita carts as memory since I assume they are using some sort of physical flash memory right?).

The Vita is a wonderful game console however it's memory is finite not infinite we can't add in all the presentation data from the PS3 version. The presentation data alone would completely fill the vita cartridge two times over.

But I still don't fully understand that argument completely. Are they saying that this year the cart will be completely filled? Last year the game was 2.8gb, the limit for Vita games is at least 3.3gb as someone pointed out was Blazblue's download size which was also released physically. If the devs continue to use the storage space argument, I'd expect to see the size of MLB 13 to be around 3.2-3.3gb. If it isn't than I'd have to assume as a consumer that space was left on that cart.

I really hope that there is still room on the Vita cart or else I fear the Vita version might become a bit stagnant especially on the presentation side. If that happens I really hope the devs become a bit more flexible and remove modes, presentations, and other elements to facilitate the Vita version keeping up with the core gameplay improvements the PS3/PS4 version gets. I'd be willing to sacrifice all modes other than RTTS and Franchise if those modes continue to keep up.

Thanks for checking out the Vita version at CD as I was much more concerned about that version than the PS3 one. I'm glad you didn't notice any framerate drops, although I'm sure a lot more testing would need to be made.

If the game is stable and at least 30 fps throughout with no drops, I'll be very happy. The other additions are just gravy to me at that point. I really hope that the performance is what it should be this year.

[nomo17k]

Re: Community Day 2013 - VITA Version - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

so which version made the bigger step forward from what they were last year according to your first impressions, the vita or ps3?

I don't think that's a very relevant way to think though, given that these two versions are not competing products. Both have pros and cons, and it is ultimately up to your usage (portable vs. full console, etc.)

[geisterhome]

But I still don't fully understand that argument completely. Are they saying that this year the cart will be completely filled? Last year the game was 2.8gb, the limit for Vita games is at least 3.3gb as someone pointed out was Blazblue's download size which was also released physically. If the devs continue to use the storage space argument, I'd expect to see the size of MLB 13 to be around 3.2-3.3gb. If it isn't than I'd have to assume as a consumer that space was left on that cart.

I really hope that there is still room on the Vita cart or else I fear the Vita version might become a bit stagnant especially on the presentation side. If that happens I really hope the devs become a bit more flexible and remove modes, presentations, and other elements to facilitate the Vita version keeping up with the core gameplay improvements the PS3/PS4 version gets. I'd be willing to sacrifice all modes other than RTTS and Franchise if those modes continue to keep up.

there are rumors that the maximum size the vita cart can take is 4GB. so that could be the limit.

I don't think that's a very relevant way to think though, given that these two versions are not competing products. Both have pros and cons, and it is ultimately up to your usage (portable vs. full console, etc.)

I know it isn't lol. just trying to get a feeling for what to expect and how excited I should be abt the vita version. don't own a ps3 so I was kind of hoping it was close or that maybe the mlb the show 13 on vita is more improved :o

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[MrOldboy]

Re: Community Day 2013 - VITA Version - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

there are rumors that the maximum size the vita cart can take is 4GB. so that could be the limit.

That has been what I've read as well, doesn't mean 4gb of usable space though.

But that is why I am confused about this whole storage limit argument. It doesn't seem like they've hit it yet. Or did they actually hit it this year?

[geisterhome]

That has been what I've read as well, doesn't mean 4gb of usable space though.

But that is why I am confused about this whole storage limit argument. It doesn't seem like they've hit it yet. Or did they actually hit it this year?

yes wondering about that too. how big the game will be this year was actually one of my questions for the community day, but idk if they got to ask it/ got an answer?

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[nemesis04]

On a 4gb card only 3.6 is usable, this year the Show is just about there. The team does not want it to be stripped down either but there are mandates from Sony that have to be followed. There really is nothing else to discuss about it.

[geisterhome]

Re: Community Day 2013 - VITA Version - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

On a 4gb card only 3.6 is usable, this year the Show is just about there. The team does not it to be stripped down either but there are mandates from Sony that have to be followed. There really is nothing else to discuss about it.

From 2,8 to about 3,6gb doesnt sound too bad to me!


Another question I have, which you guys probably can answer me without going to the community days, is if those features mentioned on the fact sheet under 1. to 50. are in the Vita version?

All of those or just some or none:

1. Hitting engine improvements deliver more hit variety than ever before
2. Wider timing window across all difficulty levels
3. Improved ball physics (less ground rule doubles etc.)
4. Over 250 new fielding and running animations
5. Over 90 new batting stances
6. Over 130 batting stance re-captures for players who changed their stances
7. Over 50 new pitching motions
8. Over 60 new HR swings
9. New Defensive Positioning screen, view the whole field and watch your players shift on the fly
10. Franchise Mode: Team specific player valuations, which affect drafting, trades, free agency, etc.
11. Franchise Mode: Projected team budgets and free agents for the upcoming season
12. Franchise Mode: Previous award winners and each team's Hall of Fame members will now be tracked and displayed
13. Franchise Mode: Ticker in Franchise that displays scores, milestones, trades, etc.
14. Franchise Mode: Top 50 Prospect icon, used to indicate the best up-and-coming minor leaguers
15. Franchise Mode: Organizational Depth Chart which displays your starters at each level (AA, AAA and MLB)
16. New CBA "Qualifying Offer" system included
17. 7 New Minor League and Spring Training stadiums
18. On screen Tutorials to help you navigate some of the more complicated screens
19. New silhouette bat when bunting
20. Back picks while a catcher in RttS
21. Ability to assign swing animations when creating or editing a player... follow through, step in, etc...
22. Big glove for catcher when a knuckle ball pitcher is on the mound
23. Over 500 new presentations
24. Pitcher Energy/Rotations for Online Play Now
25. Mercy Rule for online games
26. Twitter in The Show
27. Ping indicators in online game rooms
28. New online ranked game Play Now flow with game worth
29. New post-game summary screen for all online ranked games
30. Player photos updating with Roster updates
31. In-game simulator when FF to the end of game
32. PCI Appearance - There are 4 alternate PCI appearances
33. Pitcher Batter Analysis will now display 40 instead of 25 pitches
34. New Throwback uniforms
35. More catcher animations on plays at the plate providing more exciting outcomes
36. Enhanced CPU base running. Less predictable and more human like behavior
37. New base running animations "around the bases". Allows for more control of your base runner
38. New Pulse pitching, Meter pitching, and strike zone art
39. New player accessories
40. New online ticker design, more stats and information
41. RTTS infielder’s pickoff request
42. New more interactive user steal system
43. Improved CPU pitcher substitution logic
44. New player card
45. Guess pitch evolution
46. RTTS Removal of the “green-light” system
47. Over 1,000 new RTTS-specific presentations
48. New RTTS user catch option
49. New RTTS On/Off options for ball halo and ball trail
50. Over 15 new batting camera’s and 5 new pitching camera views

[nemesis04]

Re: Community Day 2013 - VITA Version - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

^Just some of those are on the list.

[Blzer]

Re: Community Day 2013 - VITA Version - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

- All the same modes as PS3 version, except Diamond Dynasty. (Yes, even The Show Live)
- Universal Profile
- Online CrossPlay HR Derby
- The "OUT" "FOUL" popups are gone.
- As stated, the ball is 10% smaller
- The same SimCast/Fast Forward feature as the PS3 version.
- Will be available as a downloadable title on PSN

That's what matters most for me. Thanks!

[geisterhome]

Re: Community Day 2013 - VITA Version - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

^Just some of those are on the list.

Are the changes affecting gameplay in the vita version though? As it could affect crossplay quite a bit.

Stuff like:
1. Hitting engine improvements deliver more hit variety than ever before
2. Wider timing window across all difficulty levels
3. Improved ball physics (less ground rule doubles etc.)
35. More catcher animations on plays at the plate providing more exciting outcomes
36. Enhanced CPU base running. Less predictable and more human like behavior
37. New base running animations "around the bases". Allows for more control of your base runner
38. New Pulse pitching, Meter pitching, and strike zone art
etc...

[nomo17k]

Re: Community Day 2013 - VITA Version - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

Are the changes affecting gameplay in the vita version though? As it could affect crossplay quite a bit.

Stuff like:
1. Hitting engine improvements deliver more hit variety than ever before
2. Wider timing window across all difficulty levels
3. Improved ball physics (less ground rule doubles etc.)
35. More catcher animations on plays at the plate providing more exciting outcomes
36. Enhanced CPU base running. Less predictable and more human like behavior
37. New base running animations "around the bases". Allows for more control of your base runner
38. New Pulse pitching, Meter pitching, and strike zone art
etc...

The same game engine... so they should be identical.

[mikelecrenski]

Re: Community Day 2013 - VITA Version - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

Did the players and managers in the dugout just get taken out?