Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

[Factzzz]

Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

The reason 2k had the helmets in is because they had exclusive rights contract with MLB and everything associated with it.........therefore with the exclusive license they didn't have to follow the style guide. That's the part people don't understand SCEA doesn't have the exclusive license like 2k had and that's why they have to follow the style guide. This is something the Devs and many other have already explained in years passed. They explained how it works and why they have to use it.

Is it possible that the Show will ever have exclusive license?

[ShowTyme15]

Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

Is it possible that the Show will ever have exclusive license?

Honestly I have no idea maybe that's something people will have to sit back and see. In my opinion if it isn't broke don't fix it.

[Doran]

Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

It appears that SCEA didn't fix the Toronto Blue Jays "Dark Blue" jersey issue as from gameplay footage and screenshots the blue is not the accurate color.

The screenshots and videos could have been from earlier versions of the game. As was pointed out in the CES thread, the Blue Jays blue has been "addressed" but might still look wrong.

Fair warning to all, there is a strong possibility the Cardinals Sunday cap won't be in the game this year as a result of the new creme alternates.

Oh- I can't swear on this board.

Also, everything that ShowTyme15 has said about the Style Guide is correct. It's a dumb issue, but true.

[bp4baseball]

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Is it possible that the Show will ever have exclusive license?

I hope not...while they may get some extra benefits from it it would be expensive on their resources. In a perfect world anybody (within reason) could get permission from MLB to make a game and all have equal access to all the rights, names, etc.

[Knight165]

Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

Just a quick note.

The teams are not bound by the style guide....SCEA is.

One of the artists was unsure about the St. Louis combo for the helmet/cap in regards to the alternate road unis. He had pics showing both combos and info to the same...and asked if anyone knew for sure what it would be for the helmet(I don't think the helmets are in the guide...just the caps).
I PM'ed our resident St. Louis nutjob(affectionate term ) and he sent me the info for every uni combo.
I brought the info to the artist and one of the caps in the guide was different. I could see he had the one that the O.S. member told me would be used....as an option to put into the game(meaning it's there...all drawn up), but when he referred to the guide right in front of me...it showed a different cap. There was nothing he could do but use the one in the guide.
They are that strict with it.
That's the way it is.

M.K.
Knight165

[Factzzz]

Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

Just a quick note.

The teams are not bound by the style guide....SCEA is.

One of the artists was unsure about the St. Louis combo for the helmet/cap in regards to the alternate road unis. He had pics showing both combos and info to the same...and asked if anyone knew for sure what it would be for the helmet(I don't think the helmets are in the guide...just the caps).
I PM'ed our resident St. Louis nutjob(affectionate term ) and he sent me the info for every uni combo.
I brought the info to the artist and one of the caps in the guide was different. I could see he had the one that the O.S. member told me would be used....as an option to put into the game(meaning it's there...all drawn up), but when he referred to the guide right in front of me...it showed a different cap. There was nothing he could do but use the one in the guide.
They are that strict with it.
That's the way it is.

M.K.
Knight165

That's a shame, smh at this style guide nonsense

[slickkill77]

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I hope not...while they may get some extra benefits from it it would be expensive on their resources. In a perfect world anybody (within reason) could get permission from MLB to make a game and all have equal access to all the rights, names, etc.

Didn't the license run out for 2k this year though (As in 2k12 was their last exclusive license game)? Aren't they just making a game because they are allowed to? Or are they still under contract for this last year?

[ShowTyme15]

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Didn't the license run out for 2k this year though (As in 2k12 was their last exclusive license game)? Aren't they just making a game because they are allowed to? Or are they still under contract for this last year?

They had the contract renewed for just this year then they'll re-evaluate it for next year.

[MrOldboy]

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They had the contract renewed for just this year then they'll re-evaluate it for next year.

I think this is what some people are basing the idea that there will be no 2K baseball game in the future.

"Our legacy Major League Baseball agreement will sunset in fiscal 2013," a Take-Two spokesman said, meaning in the coming 12 calendar months. "MLB 2K12 is our last offering under that agreement. At this time, we have no further comment."

from this article http://kotaku.com/5912483/major-leag...n-is-confirmed

[Perfect Zero]

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That's a shame, smh at this style guide nonsense

The thing is; the MLB Style Guide serves a useful purpose as it dictates how teams are shown in all media. It's a way that they can control their image and give confidence to the consumer that what they are buying is the real deal.

I remember this was a huge deal when the Rangers had those two-toned helmets for years. They never wore them once in real life, but they were in the Style Guide forever and it took years for them to be taken out.

[johnnyg83]

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The thing is; the MLB Style Guide serves a useful purpose as it dictates how teams are shown in all media. It's a way that they can control their image and give confidence to the consumer that what they are buying is the real deal.

I remember this was a huge deal when the Rangers had those two-toned helmets for years. They never wore them once in real life, but they were in the Style Guide forever and it took years for them to be taken out.

Funny thing is, the last MLB style guide I saw (late 90s so fwiw) was RIDDLED with errors.

[dran1984]

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The thing is; the MLB Style Guide serves a useful purpose as it dictates how teams are shown in all media. It's a way that they can control their image and give confidence to the consumer that what they are buying is the real deal.

I remember this was a huge deal when the Rangers had those two-toned helmets for years. They never wore them once in real life, but they were in the Style Guide forever and it took years for them to be taken out.

Yea, how useful is it when its not correct...i think its more useful when it comes to the primary logos and word marks. The style guide contains more then just the uniforms, it includes the official fonts and the primary logos and various other official team info for media use.

[405Cowboy]

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The style guide was awful back in the 90's. I remember playing All Star Baseball or Ken Griffey's N64 game and the road uniform for the Royals was inaccurate. They had the Royal Blue jerseys with gray caps with blue bills. The Royals never wore that combo and the gray cap was used for a few home games in 98 and was quickly retired.

Another example in recent years was the Twins Red "TC" cap with their home navy alternates. They've never worn that combo either and it was bothersome back on MLB 2k5 and in the Show '08 & '09.

Now this has been discussed before but SCEA should and hopefully correct the 1974 Braves throwback uniform with the correct sock colors and batting helmet.

[merchant1874]

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What is the point of the style guide if its so inaccurate?

[Thruter]

I perfectly understand the legal issue SCEA have and Im sure the dev team is as frustrated as we are.

But the part I don't understand : any major leagues teams these days are investing a lot in marketing and how their team image (logos, colors, uniforms) is represented in all medias everywhere. If the guide would be so important for the teams, why they're not updating it? Why by example Toronto Jays would let the medias and the merchandising keep referring to their wrong Blue color ? If it would be so important,the first thing marketing dept would be doing is keep it up to date. So my feeling is it's not used that much anymore.

For some other reasons SCEA is trapped with that guide.