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  • Factzzz
    FA
    • Aug 2011
    • 1655

    #211
    Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

    Originally posted by Unit303
    Indeed, which makes it all the more baffling. I mean, seriously, who is going to get into any trouble adding a stripe THAT IS THERE IN REAL LIFE?

    Simple fact is many Twins fans are going to be very disappointed if that stripe, and pray to god that MN sign in left, is missing. At this point if your style guide is THAT WRONG you are doing more harm than good keeping it looking like that. No Twins agency is going to be like HEY! thanks for making our uniforms look right! You didn't obey the style guide. We will now sue you!

    I mean, if they aren't updating the guide at this point they obviously don't give two ****s about it.
    Exactly the way i feel, but i guess there hands are tied unfortunately
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    • RedVikings
      Rookie
      • Feb 2013
      • 43

      #212
      Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

      this may have been asked in here but can we actually have jerseys that the teams use? It was annoying to see the white sox wear their 1910 jerseys when they haven't touched them in almost 10 years at least

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      • SilverBullet1929
        MVP
        • Feb 2012
        • 1924

        #213
        Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

        Originally posted by RedVikings
        this may have been asked in here but can we actually have jerseys that the teams use? It was annoying to see the white sox wear their 1910 jerseys when they haven't touched them in almost 10 years at least
        You know, I totally know what you meant here, but my smart *** side was dying to just say... dude, you know 1910 was wayyy more than 10 years ago right? Right?

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        • The Kid 24
          It's Show Time!
          • Jan 2007
          • 14762

          #214
          Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

          Anyone know if Washington's road colors have been fixed? Should have red socks and undershirts.
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          • MauerMorneau09
            Pro
            • Mar 2011
            • 675

            #215
            Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

            Originally posted by Unit303
            Indeed, which makes it all the more baffling. I mean, seriously, who is going to get into any trouble adding a stripe THAT IS THERE IN REAL LIFE?

            Simple fact is many Twins fans are going to be very disappointed if that stripe, and pray to god that MN sign in left, is missing. At this point if your style guide is THAT WRONG you are doing more harm than good keeping it looking like that. No Twins agency is going to be like HEY! thanks for making our uniforms look right! You didn't obey the style guide. We will now sue you!

            I mean, if they aren't updating the guide at this point they obviously don't give two ****s about it.
            I really feel though that the red stripe is in the style guide, but they haven't updated it. Same with the Twins font. But who knows because the font for the scoreboard in left field has the wrong twins font as well.

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            • MauerMorneau09
              Pro
              • Mar 2011
              • 675

              #216
              Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

              Originally posted by Unit303
              Indeed, which makes it all the more baffling. I mean, seriously, who is going to get into any trouble adding a stripe THAT IS THERE IN REAL LIFE?

              Simple fact is many Twins fans are going to be very disappointed if that stripe, and pray to god that MN sign in left, is missing. At this point if your style guide is THAT WRONG you are doing more harm than good keeping it looking like that. No Twins agency is going to be like HEY! thanks for making our uniforms look right! You didn't obey the style guide. We will now sue you!

              I mean, if they aren't updating the guide at this point they obviously don't give two ****s about it.
              The other problem is I've never been told directly what the problem is. I've never heard an answer as to if these problems are style guide related or are just being overlooked. I'd like to know because it kinda becomes irritating when the road uni is off and the home uni's are basically 2009 versions.

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              • Perfect Zero
                1B, OF
                • Jun 2005
                • 4012

                #217
                Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

                Originally posted by Unit303
                Indeed, which makes it all the more baffling. I mean, seriously, who is going to get into any trouble adding a stripe THAT IS THERE IN REAL LIFE?

                Simple fact is many Twins fans are going to be very disappointed if that stripe, and pray to god that MN sign in left, is missing. At this point if your style guide is THAT WRONG you are doing more harm than good keeping it looking like that. No Twins agency is going to be like HEY! thanks for making our uniforms look right! You didn't obey the style guide. We will now sue you!

                I mean, if they aren't updating the guide at this point they obviously don't give two ****s about it.
                The problem is that they are legally bound to follow the rules when it comes to reproducing the image that Major League Baseball and the thirty teams that consist of Baseball. This isn't some wishy-washy thing, they are bound by their contract to follow the guidelines set by Baseball.

                Teams do care how their image is, and Baseball certainly cares about the way that the league is shown. It's their image to protect and they have an obligation to protect it in all the products that are produced in merchandising. This has to deal with copyright issues as well as counterfeit issues.

                The sign in left field has nothing to do with the style guide. It has everything to do with trademark infringement. There is a rule of thumb regarding how close the fake ads can be to the real life thing, but if Budweiser feels like their brand is being used without their consent they will go after SCEA. That's just basic copyright theory.

                I know it's hard for many to believe that the style guide is for the protection of Baseball's image, but it's the truth. They produce these things in order to show how a team is to be represented. Granted, I have no idea what Minnesota has on their guide, but if the stripe ain't there then SCEA isn't going to risk a major contract with Baseball. Simple as that.
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                • MauerMorneau09
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 675

                  #218
                  Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

                  Originally posted by Perfect Zero
                  The problem is that they are legally bound to follow the rules when it comes to reproducing the image that Major League Baseball and the thirty teams that consist of Baseball. This isn't some wishy-washy thing, they are bound by their contract to follow the guidelines set by Baseball.

                  Teams do care how their image is, and Baseball certainly cares about the way that the league is shown. It's their image to protect and they have an obligation to protect it in all the products that are produced in merchandising. This has to deal with copyright issues as well as counterfeit issues.

                  The sign in left field has nothing to do with the style guide. It has everything to do with trademark infringement. There is a rule of thumb regarding how close the fake ads can be to the real life thing, but if Budweiser feels like their brand is being used without their consent they will go after SCEA. That's just basic copyright theory.

                  I know it's hard for many to believe that the style guide is for the protection of Baseball's image, but it's the truth. They produce these things in order to show how a team is to be represented. Granted, I have no idea what Minnesota has on their guide, but if the stripe ain't there then SCEA isn't going to risk a major contract with Baseball. Simple as that.
                  I've known they had to follow it for years, but I would just like an explanation as if it's a style guide thing, or a minor detail that was overlooked.

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                  • merchant1874
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1337

                    #219
                    Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

                    Originally posted by Perfect Zero
                    The problem is that they are legally bound to follow the rules when it comes to reproducing the image that Major League Baseball and the thirty teams that consist of Baseball. This isn't some wishy-washy thing, they are bound by their contract to follow the guidelines set by Baseball.

                    Teams do care how their image is, and Baseball certainly cares about the way that the league is shown. It's their image to protect and they have an obligation to protect it in all the products that are produced in merchandising. This has to deal with copyright issues as well as counterfeit issues.

                    The sign in left field has nothing to do with the style guide. It has everything to do with trademark infringement. There is a rule of thumb regarding how close the fake ads can be to the real life thing, but if Budweiser feels like their brand is being used without their consent they will go after SCEA. That's just basic copyright theory.

                    I know it's hard for many to believe that the style guide is for the protection of Baseball's image, but it's the truth. They produce these things in order to show how a team is to be represented. Granted, I have no idea what Minnesota has on their guide, but if the stripe ain't there then SCEA isn't going to risk a major contract with Baseball. Simple as that.
                    What you are saying is obviously true and its not hard to believe.

                    What is baffling though is that there are so many mistakes in the style guide. What is the point in it when it is so inaccurate?

                    MLB should be hammering teams that do not update it in time. If they are found to wear anything that is incorrect then they should fine the teams involved.

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                    • gumboacres
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 1

                      #220
                      Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

                      Hello SECA and everyone

                      I would love to see the following 3 options:

                      #1. The option to have low stirrups


                      #2. The option to NOT have a batting helmet, for recreating rosters prior to 1956


                      #3. The option for older catchers equipment...OR at least the option for a brown colors in the menu options.


                      Thanks!!

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                      • Perfect Zero
                        1B, OF
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 4012

                        #221
                        Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

                        Originally posted by merchant1874
                        What you are saying is obviously true and its not hard to believe.

                        What is baffling though is that there are so many mistakes in the style guide. What is the point in it when it is so inaccurate?

                        MLB should be hammering teams that do not update it in time. If they are found to wear anything that is incorrect then they should fine the teams involved.
                        Well it's up to Baseball proper in what should and shouldn't happen. The teams have the right to showcase themselves in whatever fashion they want; the guide is to protect the thirty teams of Major League Baseball.
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                        • merchant1874
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 1337

                          #222
                          Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

                          Originally posted by Perfect Zero
                          Well it's up to Baseball proper in what should and shouldn't happen. The teams have the right to showcase themselves in whatever fashion they want; the guide is to protect the thirty teams of Major League Baseball.
                          Yeas but MLB should still hammer teams for irregularities.

                          So let me get this straight. Teams can have whatever they want in the style guide which is protected. But in real life they can wear whatever they want and don't need to adhere to the guide?

                          If for example Team A have a black stripe down there pants in the style guide but actually in real life have pants without the stripe then MLB should enforce them to wear those striped pants.

                          Just curious do other sports have a style guide? You know how the NFL is with players wearing low socks or any other irregularities. MLB should step up and do the same.

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                          • dran1984
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1221

                            #223
                            Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

                            Originally posted by merchant1874
                            Yeas but MLB should still hammer teams for irregularities.

                            So let me get this straight. Teams can have whatever they want in the style guide which is protected. But in real life they can wear whatever they want and don't need to adhere to the guide?

                            If for example Team A have a black stripe down there pants in the style guide but actually in real life have pants without the stripe then MLB should enforce them to wear those striped pants.

                            Just curious do other sports have a style guide? You know how the NFL is with players wearing low socks or any other irregularities. MLB should step up and do the same.
                            The teams are not bound by the style guide. They can wear whatever they want. The style guide is for the media outlets. The style guide ensures that third-parties represent each team with its official logos and word marks in the media that they produce.

                            It has nothing to do with what teams can or cant wear on the field. The teams own the rights to everything they wear and use.

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                            • merchant1874
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1337

                              #224
                              Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

                              Originally posted by dran1984
                              The teams are not bound by the style guide. They can wear whatever they want. The style guide is for the media outlets. The style guide ensures that third-parties represent each team with its official logos and word marks in the media that they produce.

                              It has nothing to do with what teams can or cant wear on the field. The teams own the rights to everything they wear and use.
                              I get that for word marks and logos but what about uniforms?

                              Are you saying that majestic has to follow the style guide for making replica jerseys?

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                              • 405Cowboy
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 1488

                                #225
                                Re: Community Day 2013 - Uniforms & Accessories - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

                                So did the 83 White Sox throwbacks make it in? Brooklyn Dodgers, New York Giants, Montreal Expos, 1982 Brewers etc...
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