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  • Houston
    MVP
    • May 2003
    • 4721

    #286
    Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

    Originally posted by MrOldboy
    I'd still say 99 could be reserved for the top rated player (as calculated by the game) with all other players ratings scaled accordingly. 99 doesn't mean perfect, it just means the max rating displayed by the game. What is weird though is if a player can be 99, why not 100? Does 100 bring about thoughts of perfection, 100%?
    Nobody ever should ever be rated 99 more less about 15 -20 players. This is crazy insane and taking things in the wrong direction there's nothing realistic about a player being rated 99.
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    • Houston
      MVP
      • May 2003
      • 4721

      #287
      Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

      If there was a player rating generator and you took the top 5 guys on that list and how the preformed in 2012 I seriously doubt there ratings come out to be 99.
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      • MrOldboy
        MVP
        • Feb 2011
        • 2653

        #288
        Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

        Originally posted by Houston
        Nobody ever should ever be rated 99 more less about 15 -20 players. This is crazy insane and taking things in the wrong direction there's nothing realistic about a player being rated 99.
        But what does a player being rated 99 mean? To you, to the devs, to everyone it can mean something different.

        What does a 99 mean to you?

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        • NateAndStuff
          Rookie
          • Mar 2011
          • 57

          #289
          Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

          Originally posted by MrOldboy
          But what does a player being rated 99 mean? To you, to the devs, to everyone it can mean something different.

          What does a 99 mean to you?
          It means the greatest a player can be. Are you telling me that there are any players in the world who are perfect athletes? On top of this, I think it's hilarious that overrated players like CarGo and Hamilton somehow made it in with the 99 crew over a guy like Votto. I'd love to know how this is figured up because it seems like they just went around the room and asked everyone who their favorite player was. Come on.

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          • cardinalbird5
            MVP
            • Jul 2006
            • 2814

            #290
            Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

            Originally posted by Houston
            If there was a player rating generator and you took the top 5 guys on that list and how the preformed in 2012 I seriously doubt there ratings come out to be 99.
            99 doesn't mean they are Babe Ruth or a perfect player. It just means they are a 99 at the position they play and that is the highest number the game shows you. The best players cumulative rating ends up being closer to 120. 99 is not an average by any means. I don't know why people make things so much more difficult than they need to be. Your idea of a 99=/=the game's 99. MLB The Show doesn't use its ratings like NBA 2k or Madden.

            If they wanted they could make 130 be a 99 and scale everything else down. I am sure people would complain less. They could also say 200=99 and scale everything way down to where the average player is like 30 then people would freak out. It is just eye candy. It'd be the same exact results regardless of the little number next to their name. The individual attributes per player do not change one bit. Look at the 99 rated pitchers. None of their per nine attributes, control, velocity, etc. is even a 99. Settle down people.
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            • bp4baseball
              MVP
              • Dec 2009
              • 1315

              #291
              Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

              Originally posted by NateAndStuff
              It means the greatest a player can be. Are you telling me that there are any players in the world who are perfect athletes? On top of this, I think it's hilarious that overrated players like CarGo and Hamilton somehow made it in with the 99 crew over a guy like Votto. I'd love to know how this is figured up because it seems like they just went around the room and asked everyone who their favorite player was. Come on.
              But just because they are rated 99 doesn't mean any of their individual ratings are 99 or even close to 99.

              Also, if the game produces realistic results, what does it matter if they're rated 32 or 132?
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              • CMH
                Making you famous
                • Oct 2002
                • 26203

                #292
                Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                Originally posted by bp4baseball
                But just because they are rated 99 doesn't mean any of their individual ratings are 99 or even close to 99.

                Also, if the game produces realistic results, what does it matter if they're rated 32 or 132?
                Remember the hell that broke loose when NBA Live changed their rating system to go deeper than 50-99?

                Great players were in the 80s and other great players were in the 90s and the entire world (it felt) was just up in arms over it.

                I never had a problem with it, but I remember trying to explain it back in the day and just feeling as if I was talking to a wall.

                There is one simple fact: when it comes to player ratings, let them vent and walk away. Nothing you say will change anything. People will always complain rather than let the gameplay do the talking.
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                • tvman
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1392

                  #293
                  Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                  So can I create a player that is rated a 132?

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                  • slickkill77
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 583

                    #294
                    Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                    Originally posted by CMH
                    Remember the hell that broke loose when NBA Live changed their rating system to go deeper than 50-99?

                    Great players were in the 80s and other great players were in the 90s and the entire world (it felt) was just up in arms over it.

                    I never had a problem with it, but I remember trying to explain it back in the day and just feeling as if I was talking to a wall.

                    There is one simple fact: when it comes to player ratings, let them vent and walk away. Nothing you say will change anything. People will always complain rather than let the gameplay do the talking.

                    To me it just looks stupid to have so many players rated 99. I'd love a system that expanded player rankings. I don't watch the NBA but from what I know there should be maybe 1 or 2, 99 players: LeBron and Kobe (maybe). No one else should be a 99 (maybe Chris Paul).

                    An expanded rating system would work wonders in The Show given that there are 2 (maybe 3 someday) minor league systems as well as the majors. There should be a bigger discrepancy. If the stats bear out at the end of the season then that's awesome, but it doesn't mean it doesn't look dumb when guys like Josh Hamilton, Carlos Gonzalez, Stephen Strasburg etc...who are very good players in their own right, are 99 rated players.

                    Yes you can change ratings on your own which we will all do but to me 99 should represent the best in the game. Not just really good players or guys that had fluky years.

                    We all appreciate the work the SCEA guys do, so don't take any of this as disrespect. We all just want to improve the game. I just think some of the things that go into rating players don't make any sense. For instance: How is a guy like Jose Altuve, who had a decent year last year, but nothing spectacular, rated 90. And why is he rated above a guy like Ben Zobrist who is one of the most valuable players in the league? The stats may play out like they do in real life but it still looks goofy on paper and it affects the way the virtual GM's go after guys I'm sure.

                    I almost feel like they just go on fantasy baseball websites to rate guys sometimes. I get that there are a ton of players to rate and its never going to be perfect but there are some players that are obviously over or underrated that just make you go, huh? Also I don't think going back to just bars solves anything. Then it feels like they are just masking the issue.
                    Last edited by slickkill77; 02-25-2013, 09:29 PM.

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                    • Knight165
                      *ll St*r
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 24964

                      #295
                      Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

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                      • Knight165
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                        • Feb 2003
                        • 24964

                        #296
                        Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

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                        • Knight165
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 24964

                          #297
                          Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

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                          • slickkill77
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 583

                            #298
                            Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                            The bar only doesn't solve anything as I said above. It just masks the problem and you end up sorting by rating anyway. Why should we just hide the fact that some of the ratings are so out of whack? Then we would just be complaining that Stephen Strasburg's bar was full.

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                            • dcmantommy72
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 97

                              #299
                              Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                              I love the work that goes into the ratings, but honestly prefer the re-rate mlb roster sets that people on this board create for us rather than the default roster set for my franchise.

                              I also believe that 20 players at 99 is too many, I love the way OOTP rates players, most attributes are on a 0-250 scale sometimes 300. Meaning almost always a guy like Strasburg can get even better over the years and as such his rating will go up.. According to these ratings in 5 years he will still be either 99 or lower. If Ted Williams was in the game, he would be a 99, The Sultan of Swat a 99, Rodger Clemens (1990) a 99 these players are all top notch but seeing that max level come so easily and quickly and numerously is bad for the game. I would love to see a more in depth system someday, maybe keep 1-100 but use a decimal like for a random example Pedroia would a 92.45ovr. Idk just my thought. Love it either way as LONG AS WE KEEP ATTEMPTING TO IMPROVE AND INNOVATE THE SYSTEM and not get stuck being forced to stay within certain parameters year in year out...

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                              Last edited by dcmantommy72; 02-25-2013, 11:19 PM. Reason: said '91 for the rocket, better make it '90

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                              • Knight165
                                *ll St*r
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 24964

                                #300
                                Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                                Originally posted by dcmantommy72
                                I love the work that goes into the ratings, but honestly prefer the re-rate mlb roster sets that people on this board create for us rather than the default roster set for my franchise.

                                I also believe that 20 players at 99 is too many, I love the way OOTP rates players, most attributes are on a 0-250 scale sometimes 300. Meaning almost always a guy like Strasburg can get even better over the years and as such his rating will go up.. According to these ratings in 5 years he will still be either 99 or lower. If Ted Williams was in the game, he would be a 99, The Sultan of Swat a 99, Rodger Clemens (1990) a 99 these players are all top notch but seeing that max level come so easily and quickly and numerously is bad for the game. I would love to see a more in depth system someday, maybe keep 1-100 but use a decimal like for a random example Pedroia would a 92.45ovr. Idk just my thought. Love it either way as LONG AS WE KEEP ATTEMPTING TO IMPROVE AND INNOVATE THE SYSTEM and not get stuck being forced to stay within certain parameters year in year out...

                                I took 3/5 off as a holiday, and will treat it like one!
                                Just FYI...your player can be above 99....but 99 is the top # displayed.
                                It's up to you to see who is "better".

                                M.K.
                                Knight165
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