MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

**crains13** · 02-23-2013, 02:15 PM

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

Doesn't matter if my Reds are 9th or 29th, I'm gonna play the hell out of The Show '13.

**Lovesports** · 02-23-2013, 02:16 PM

Jays fans are officially the most annoying fans (more so than philly fans). Lets not even have a season and just give them the championship...since they're "projected" to win and all. You guys are clowns

**MLB Bob** · 02-23-2013, 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by Lovesports

What in the world are you babbling about?! So we're comparing Mark Burhle to pujols now? You're not in the everybody category because plenty of people disagree with you, you're in the jays fan category which clearly makes your opinion bias to begin with.

Yes cause mark burele was the only acquisition. Im removing myself from this conversation because the people responding are more delusional than jays fans and claim to be "better baseball watchers" than everyone else. I havent even stated what team I like. Jose reyes has been a great player almost every year, RA dicky has been great for 3 years and won a big award, Melky cabrera was on the WS Giants team..did the giants give back those wins when Melky was caught?...and Im sure SCEA doesnt take PEDS into account or Braun. Arod and anyone else wouldnt be rated as high..

To pick Buerle as your example makes you sound even more biased than jays fans...so Im going to tune you out because I question your ability to watch baseball better than all of us(sarcasm)

**MrOldboy** · 02-23-2013, 02:18 PM

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

If the team ratings are based off of the player ratings, we should wait until the game is out. Then everyone can complain how players are under/overrated and therefore are messing up the team ratings.

As it is now everyone's argument is so thin since you don't know the player ratings. Maybe you feel Reyes and Arencibia are way overrated, maybe you think Pagan and Scutaro are underrated. Most people are just taking the overall ratings to be power rankings or something, which they aren't.

**MLB Bob** · 02-23-2013, 02:19 PM

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

Originally posted by bkrich83

Not defensive at all. That was pretty much what you said. If you want to say that wasn't where you were going with that post, more power to you.

A team that is coming off a 73 win season, who made some nice acquisitions on paper, if those players in most cases make come backs, or live up to expectations, has no reason to complain about being "only" at #5. On paper, I can see why they are there, but still seems to be a stretch.

If you want to argue that point feel free.

Ok explain why the Red Sox who won less games are ranked 3rd? I dont care where the Jays rank, 5 seems ok maybe shuffled around after the others are shuffled around.

**bkrich83** · 02-23-2013, 02:21 PM

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

Originally posted by MLB Bob

Ok explain why the Red Sox who won less games are ranked 3rd? I dont care where the Jays rank, 5 seems ok maybe shuffled around after the others are shuffled around.

Don't know on the Red Sox, but I don't see any Red Sox fans complaining that #3 is too low for them to be ranked.

**bkrich83** · 02-23-2013, 02:22 PM

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

Originally posted by MrOldboy

If the team ratings are based off of the player ratings, we should wait until the game is out. Then everyone can complain how players are under/overrated and therefore are messing up the team ratings.

As it is now everyone's argument is so thin since you don't know the player ratings. Maybe you feel Reyes and Arencibia are way overrated, maybe you think Pagan and Scutaro are underrated. Most people are just taking the overall ratings to be power rankings or something, which they aren't.

We get this every year. The homers come out and complain about how underrated their team is. Jays fans have just chosen to take the lead and take it to new levels this year. Next year it will be some other team that's been crappy for 20 years that makes a few moves.

**Lovesports** · 02-23-2013, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by bkrich83

Don't know on the Red Sox, but I don't see any Red Sox fans complaining that #3 is too low for them to be ranked.

In fact I was the first to say we don't even belong in the top 15. Same thing happened last year when everybody jumped on the Miami bandwagon and crowned them in March. What happened with that? 69 wins. I dont need some jay fan telling me I dont know baseball...youre the one patting yourself on the back before the start of the season because you guys picked up a couple of quality players.

**MLB Bob** · 02-23-2013, 02:33 PM

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Well I apologize for not watching baseball good enough for you and have a different opinion. Im not complaining about the rankings, I have more of an issue with the offensive people that have to attack fans and not argue the point. if you disagree with a comment, make a point, dont continue to bash and troll them with equally biased opinions.

**Lovesports** · 02-23-2013, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by bkrich83

We get this every year. The homers come out and complain about how underrated their team is. Jays fans have just chosen to take the lead and take it to new levels this year. Next year it will be some other team that's been crappy for 20 years that makes a few moves.

Haha I know...last year Miami, this year the Jays. Im surprised Cleveland fans haven't come out yet since they had a good offseason too. Truth be told, I don't even think the Jays had the best offseason. I like what the Braves and Nationals did, especially Nationals.

**SoxFan01605** · 02-23-2013, 02:38 PM

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So, someone has the game 2 weeks in advance and instead of sharing game play footage or some sneak-peeks at new features, he drops a ratings screen and goes dark. I think the guy who got the game early should be banned for trolling...lol.

There are some head-scratchers here (Red Sox at #3 is most off to me) but, just like I said in the player ratings thread, I'm more concerned with how it impacts the game than how it looks. Team rankings have NEVER been the best predictor of given team's success in franchise/season/RTTS in this series, so I'm not worried.

**bkrich83** · 02-23-2013, 02:39 PM

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

Originally posted by Lovesports

Haha I know...last year Miami, this year the Jays. Im surprised Cleveland fans haven't come out yet since they had a good offseason too. Truth be told, I don't even think the Jays had the best offseason. I like what the Braves and Nationals did, especially Nationals.

Cleveland fans are a different breed. They expect their team to fail, so don't want to get their hopes up, no matter how good they are.

Originally posted by MLB Bob

Well I apologize for not watching baseball good enough for you and have a different opinion. Im not complaining about the rankings, I have more of an issue with the offensive people that have to attack fans and not argue the point. if you disagree with a comment, make a point, dont continue to bash and troll them with equally biased opinions.

Who's getting defensive now?

**Cavicchi** · 02-23-2013, 02:41 PM

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Can someone explain to me how the Yankees have better pitching than the Dodgers? Sabathia is not better than Kershaw, Kuroda may be a bit better than Greinke but is 38 years old, Pettitte is 40 years old and when was the last time he started over 25 games in a season? The last three years he started over 25 games, he had an ERA over 4. Nova was over 5 ERA last year and Phil Hughes was over 4.

**Lovesports** · 02-23-2013, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by MLB Bob

Well I apologize for not watching baseball good enough for you and have a different opinion. Im not complaining about the rankings, I have more of an issue with the offensive people that have to attack fans and not argue the point. if you disagree with a comment, make a point, dont continue to bash and troll them with equally biased opinions.

How many points do I have to make? I get that you're a fan...we all are, but it just seems that your point of view is very narrow because you want to defend your team. I'm sorry if I came off offensive...I just dislike when people discredit what other teams have done just because they're not a fan of that team. I like the red sox but do you see me trying to defend their 3rd position? No because they dont deserve it

**bkrich83** · 02-23-2013, 03:33 PM

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

Originally posted by Cavicchi

Can someone explain to me how the Yankees have better pitching than the Dodgers? Sabathia is not better than Kershaw, Kuroda may be a bit better than Greinke but is 38 years old, Pettitte is 40 years old and when was the last time he started over 25 games in a season? The last three years he started over 25 games, he had an ERA over 4. Nova was over 5 ERA last year and Phil Hughes was over 4.

My guess. Bullpen/Closer. I guess they are assuming Mariano is going to be Mariano.

Not sure, just a guess.

Whether Sabathia or Kershaw is better, while I agree with you is debatable.

MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

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