MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

[giantsharks]

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

If this was my forum, this thread would not have been created. It draws the most whiniest and biased comments from fans I've ever seen.

These ratings aren't even concrete, are they ?

what did you expect in this thread? Why even read the comments? I think for most of us in this thread the fun of it is arguing for you team. Everyone is bias towards their team. Im extremely bias, but i also love baseball and its fun to see the baseball world through other fans eyes no matter how ridiculous some of their views maybe.

[Rules]

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

what did you expect in this thread? Why even read the comments? I think for most of us in this thread the fun of it is arguing for you team. Everyone is bias towards their team. Im extremely bias, but i also love baseball and its fun to see the baseball world through other fans eyes no matter how ridiculous some of their views maybe.

Exactly, not like we are bashing anyone. Support your team...........have fun!

[cdncurrency]

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

What???

Robert Andino = average at best.
Endy Chavez = sucked!
Bill Hall = hardly played so we don't know how that would have turned out.
Nick Johnson = retired and also missed more games than he played lol.
Omar Quintanilla = Good player
Mark Reynolds = yes this one hurts losing.
Joe Saunders = another average pitcher.
Jim Thome = time to hang it up. Not the same player when he was in his prime.
Randy Wolf = His surgery played a factor here.


As for those they added, I don't think you can say it was a regression. I think Management especially Buck likes what he has so therefore they didn't go crazy in the offseason.

I'm going a bit on name power with Wolf/Thome/Hall/Andino/Saunders, as I can't remember exactly what their ratings are.

Anyways, too bad the manager doesn't have much of an impact on team ranking or the O's would be right up there. Still just a team with dookie starting pitching and Kevin Gregg closing out ball games.

[Rules]

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

What???

Robert Andino = average at best.
Endy Chavez = sucked!
Bill Hall = hardly played so we don't know how that would have turned out.
Nick Johnson = retired and also missed more games than he played lol.
Omar Quintanilla = Good player
Mark Reynolds = yes this one hurts losing.
Joe Saunders = another average pitcher.
Jim Thome = time to hang it up. Not the same player when he was in his prime.
Randy Wolf = His surgery played a factor here.


As for those they added, I don't think you can say it was a regression. I think Management especially Buck likes what he has so therefore they didn't go crazy in the offseason.

Plus, I think Buck opened up the roster so that he can pick up a few players. The ones brought in are not taxing to the budget.

[Rules]

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

I'm going a bit on name power with Wolf/Thome/Hall/Andino/Saunders, as I can't remember exactly what their ratings are.

Anyways, too bad the manager doesn't have much of an impact on team ranking or the O's would be right up there. Still just a team with dookie starting pitching and Kevin Gregg closing out ball games.

Pitching has never been solid for the O's in the past decade.

[CMH]

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

I've always said there's no reason to argue ratings, but I think the Red Sox ranking just made me drop my jaw.

[TeixeiraFanatic]

I'm going a bit on name power with Wolf/Thome/Hall/Andino/Saunders, as I can't remember exactly what their ratings are.

Anyways, too bad the manager doesn't have much of an impact on team ranking or the O's would be right up there. Still just a team with dookie starting pitching and Kevin Gregg closing out ball games.

By Kevin Gregg you mean Jim Johnson right? 50 saves? He wasn't amazing but he's a pretty good pitcher.

[Officerbill8]

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

As a Red Sox fan, I'm a bit suprised about the ratings, but after a long thinking it seems logical.

A lot of the Red Sox players had down years in 2012: Ellsbury, Victorino, Napoli, Lester, Buchholz, Bard. Pedroia was injured a lot, and Big Papi only played half of the games. Add to that Lackey, who was pretty bad in 2011, but was a good pitcher before.

So, I think they made those players better then they were in 2012, because Lester is clearly not a 5.0 ERA pitcher ect... If you look at the Red Sox starters they were pretty good in 2011 and before:

Lester: potentially an ACE, but a solid NO 2 at least
Buchholz: same as Lester
Dempster: good no 3
Lackey: good in 2009 and before
Doubront: high strikeout rate, rookie

This is a very good rotation if you look at Carrer stats, instead of 2012.

Just look at MIke Napoli, he hit .320 in 2011, then .220 in 2012. how good he will be? Probably between the two, slightly even better. Ellsbury had an MVP caliber season in 2011, then injury hit in 2012.

If you look at these players, pre 2012, then you get a top 5 team in the Show...

Real life will tell, if these players are going to bounce back or not, but game makers have to rely on carrer stats, instead just 1 year, and of course they can't tell the future.

So I think this list is just fine, but with OSFM rosters there will be no problems

Most of what you say above is correct.

Let's pretend to forget for a moment the way the show computes the ratings is flawed for a moment (ie: putting too much emphasis on how good a closer is for your pitching overall/ going 60% off your starting lineup and 40% off your bench to compute your hitting overall)

What people don't understand in these rankings is that it's based off EVERY team being 100% healthy.

Are the Red Sox when 100% healthy a top 3 overall team? No. But if they're healthy they are probably a top 10 overall team.

Let's look at last year...they lose 2 of their 3 best players to injury. Ellsbury in April and Ortiz in July (ortiz would have been top 3 in mvp voting at the time of the injury. If you don't believe me look at his #'s last year. I don't think people realize HOW AMAZING a season david ortiz was having in 2012 before he got injured)

So my point is....the Red Sox as an organization have VERY little depth...so they had no chance in plugging in the production of losing 2 of their 3 best players due to injury last year.

These team ratings are assuming ALL players are healthy. And say what you want about the 2012 Red Sox, they were DESIMATED last year with some key injuries on offense. (Ortiz, Ellsbury, Pedroia for 20+ games, Ross for 30+ games, Crawford for 100+ games, etc.)

[cdncurrency]

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

By Kevin Gregg you mean Jim Johnson right? 50 saves? He wasn't amazing but he's a pretty good pitcher.

No, by Kevin Gregg I mean Kevin Gregg.

Thanks for coming out.

[PsychoBulk]

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

Rankings Schmankings.

Hugely subjective and i hold little weight to them (but yeah, the Red Sox lol), but it is amusing seeing people get so worked up over them and the homerism on display.

Lets get to the real wonder of this thread...

http://www.operationsports.com/chrisjohnson83 has a full retail copy of the game!

My man, the floor is yours...

What im actually saying is, gameplay vids, UNINTERRUPTED gameplay vids, would be hugely appreciated by all of us in the community!

Your call though http://www.operationsports.com/chrisjohnson83

Just pulling your leg really.

Anything you could chuck up, pics/vids would be great.

[woz411]

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

chrisjohnson83 seems like he only has two (or its all i can see in his arena) posts since he has joined.... Wonder if he will post some videos. or chime in here on how it plays?

[woz411]

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

Rankings Schmankings.

Hugely subjective and i hold little weight to them (but yeah, the Red Sox lol), but it is amusing seeing people get so worked up over them and the homerism on display.

Lets get to the real wonder of this thread...

http://www.operationsports.com/chrisjohnson83 has a full retail copy of the game!

My man, the floor is yours...

What im actually saying is, gameplay vids, UNINTERRUPTED gameplay vids, would be hugely appreciated by all of us in the community!

Your call though http://www.operationsports.com/chrisjohnson83

Just pulling your leg really.

Anything you could chuck up, pics/vids would be great.

send him a message (that is if his box is not full)

[PsychoBulk]

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

send him a message (that is if his box is not full)

Somebody needs to, link him to this thread

[Rules]

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

By Kevin Gregg you mean Jim Johnson right? 50 saves? He wasn't amazing but he's a pretty good pitcher.

Gregg not so much but he is gone.

I really like Johnson. May not strike out many but he doesn't give them much to hit.

[woz411]

Re: MLB 13 The Show - Overall Team Ratings, Including Batting, Pitching and Defense

Somebody needs to, link him to this thread

you send him one.... Seriously though, the guy has only two posts since he joined in 2011 lol