MLB 13 The Show Player Ratings For Every Team

[royals852]

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Who is Matt Kain? Ohh you must be referring to Matt Cain a pitcher for the world series champion San Francisco Giants. That makes sense now.

Im afraid to say what i want to say. Cause id rather not be banned. So. ill just shut up now.

[bdubz91]

Im afraid to say what i want to say. Cause id rather not be banned. So. ill just shut up now.

So a pitcher of his caliber doesn't deserve respect in regards to his name? Roger that.

[12]

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As an M's fan...

Ratings seem to be too high. Ackley is an 84 and Montero is an 85. Both are young and will hopefully turn into very good hitters, but that seems high when you look at the seasons they posted a year ago. Especially considering Seager was given a 73, which seems a bit low when looking at the other ratings.

I am sure there is an explanation because I don't think ratings are strictly black and white here, much like Madden...

Either way, we have the capability to edit ratings if we don't like them...

Very cool to see all of them. Can't wait until March 5!

[cardinalbird5]

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His WHIP was 54th according to ESPN, good theory on top 10 though. Weaver also had to pitch against the best or damn close to it lineup everytime he pitched in Anaheim. (or Texas whichever) Any more stats you want to makeup and/or cherry pick?

Ok so the other 5-6 stats were top 10, whoops. Get over yourself. How about he was 4th in WAR in the AL (above Weaver and Cain) pitching in one of the best hitting Parks and having a month of fewer starts? He was also ahead of Cain and Weaver for xFIP (which is a better indicator of how well he actually pitched compared to ERA and a better indication of well they'll do in the future), 10th in HR/9, 6th in Opp BA, and 2nd in K/9. So meaning his HR/9, K/9, and H/9 are all top 10 in MLB and will be on the game. Plus you factor in his velocity and movement of 6 different pitches and is it really hard to understand why he is rated higher?

But according to your logic, since he is 52nd in ERA, he should be the 52nd best pitcher in the game, regardless of where he pitches, how he pitches, how good his defense was, etc. Pitchers like Jason Vargas, Chris Capuano, Aaron Harang, Bronson Arroyo, etc. all should be rated higher than him since they have better ERA's right?

And I am not saying Cain or Weaver aren't great pitchers. They are and one of the best in the game. Weaver was one of my favorite pitchers to use in MLB 12 also. I am just giving facts and the reason why his rating is probably higher. They don't look at baseball card stats and give overalls to individuals based on that. They look at the entire picture and the sum of their attributes and whatever their final rating is..is based on a cumulative algorithm and not some subjective fan's perspective.

[bayman]

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Ok so the other 5-6 stats were top 10, whoops. Get over yourself. How about he was 4th in WAR in the AL (above Weaver and Cain) pitching in one of the best hitting Parks and having a month of fewer starts? He was also ahead of Cain and Weaver for xFIP (which is a better indicator of how well he actually pitched compared to ERA and a better indication of well they'll do in the future), 10th in HR/9, 6th in Opp BA, and 2nd in K/9. So meaning his HR/9, K/9, and H/9 are all top 10 in MLB and will be on the game. Plus you factor in his velocity and movement of 6 different pitches and is it really hard to understand why he is rated higher?

But according to your logic, since he is 52nd in ERA, he should be the 52nd best pitcher in the game, regardless of where he pitches, how he pitches, how good his defense was, etc. Pitchers like Jason Vargas, Chris Capuano, Aaron Harang, Bronson Arroyo, etc. all should be rated higher than him since they have better ERA's right?

And I am not saying Cain or Weaver aren't great pitchers. They are and one of the best in the game. Weaver was one of my favorite pitchers to use in MLB 12 also. I am just giving facts and the reason why his rating is probably higher. They don't look at baseball card stats and give overalls to individuals based on that. They look at the entire picture and the sum of their attributes and whatever their final rating is..is based on a cumulative algorithm and not some subjective fan's perspective.

The algorithm is subjective and was the basis of my entire original point. I never said, nor do I believe, that Sony should look at one player and individually change their ratings. I said there is enough blatant evidence in my opinion, that the algorithm, designed by a human being subjectively, needs substantial improvement. There is a whole other argument to be had about how subjective advanced stats really are, and how little the people who preach them actually understand that, but this is not the place for that argument.

[cardinalbird5]

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The overall isn't really subjective when they take into consideration of all of their attributes. Regardless of the algorithm, Darvish was top 10 in just about every major pitching category and has some of the nastiest stuff in the game, so just about anyway you cut it he is going to be one of the best pitchers on the game.

[Knight165]

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I know I'll be called a "fanboy" for this...but whatever....

I actually think that in the case of numbers...SCEA has come up with a BETTER algorithm than every other game(with the exception of perhaps OOTP....but because they decided to really expand their process(OOTP)...they have a natural leg up due to just the expanse of it and the many options they provide for it).
While I don't like the numbers per se....the way they are using them to provide the OVR is much better than other games I play(which is just about every sports title)(IMO)

M.K.
Knight165

[3fiddy]

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I thought that would be the case. Why should Harper have a higher power rating against righties when Trout has higher SLG and OPS against righties for 2012???

I thought it was low for Harper at first. But it acceptable I think harper will hit longer homeruns than trout vs righties. For trouts case tho he has much better contact than Harper, so although Harper swings harder trout gets more wood on the ball it's gonna go further unless Harper centers it.

[Cavicchi]

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I thought it was low for Harper at first. But it acceptable I think harper will hit longer homeruns than trout vs righties. For trouts case tho he has much better contact than Harper, so although Harper swings harder trout gets more wood on the ball it's gonna go further unless Harper centers it.

So you justify the difference based on what you think will happen. Maybe they think like you and that explains the difference?

[3fiddy]

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So you justify the difference based on what you think will happen. Maybe they think like you and that explains the difference?

I THINK its too early to tell for these guys. When it's said and done this year i THINK Harpers homers will travel further vs rhp than trouts. Idk trouts swing well but they can't be letting him swing like harper in the lead off spot. I guess I just looking for the feel of the game not just relying on slugging percentage alone.

[Cavicchi]

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I THINK its too early to tell for these guys. When it's said and done this year i THINK Harpers homers will travel further vs rhp than trouts. Idk trouts swing well but they can't be letting him swing like harper in the lead off spot. I guess I just looking for the feel of the game not just relying on slugging percentage alone.

Hmmm....I guess that explains it...I think. Eh, what the heck, slugging percentage and homers are real, but more important is the feeling, what you feel or think will happen. Ah, now I get it.

[HadlerT]

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Good to see Felix and Morales get some love. Also was really surprised by Tom Wilhelmsen getting >90. Also surprised Kyle Seager doesn't have more than a 85.

[cardinalbird5]

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What defines power in this game? Slg, ISOP, HR's, average distance traveled? Someone that had 30 HR's while missing the first month I would think would have, at least, 80+ power.

[Motown]

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Mike Trout is the closest looking to Mickey Mantle as I have ever seen...I'm talkin' 5 tool player. Until there's a decline in ANY of his arsenals, he deserves the 99 rating imo.

I'm a HUGE Reds fan, & Chapman won't last as a starter & he'll be back as the closer to where he deserves the 99 rating.

[Cavicchi]

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What defines power in this game? Slg, ISOP, HR's, average distance traveled? Someone that had 30 HR's while missing the first month I would think would have, at least, 80+ power.

Absolutely! They have Harper with 78 for power against RHP while Trout (72) has both SLG and OPS higher against RHP.

Mike Trout is the closest looking to Mickey Mantle as I have ever seen...I'm talkin' 5 tool player. Until there's a decline in ANY of his arsenals, he deserves the 99 rating imo.

I'm a HUGE Reds fan, & Chapman won't last as a starter & he'll be back as the closer to where he deserves the 99 rating.

If they don't correct Chapman's rating as a Starter, I will make him a closer with appropriate stamina and keep his 99, although I'm not certain he should be a 99. Kimbrel has done it for more than one year, I mean exceptional years, and Chapman has not. In addition, Chapman has to be the only 5th starter rated 99/full bar in the history of this game.