2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[royals19]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

It'd be a combination of...

Salvy, Hosmer, Gordon, Starling, Ventura, Modesi, Lamb, Brickhouse.

Probably pick 4 of those guys. Salvy would be in any deal, though, no matter what.

Yeah I figured Salvy would be involved since they wanted him in the James Shields deal instead of Myers. I wouldn't mind giving up Gordon but Hosmer or Salvy? Not a chance.... The prospects wouldn't be that bad... I'm starting to lose faith in Bubba.

[AC]

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Yeah I figured Salvy would be involved since they wanted him in the James Shields deal instead of Myers. I wouldn't mind giving up Gordon but Hosmer or Salvy? Not a chance.... The prospects wouldn't be that bad... I'm starting to lose faith in Bubba.

Only starting?

Salvy would 100% have to be included. Salvy + Bubba/Mondesi + Lamb + Colon or someone MIGHT work.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

teams in contention:
Phillies
Nationals
Braves

Brewers
Reds
cardinals
pirates

Rockies
Diamondbacks
Dodgers
Giants

Blue Jays

White sox
Tigers
Royals
Indians
Twins

Angels
Athletics
Rangers

Garza to the Angels/Rangers. Soriano + Marmol to Toronto or Philly. What do you want in return?

To build off this, would Mark Buehrle for Cowart work? He pitched quite well in a HR suppressing park last year.

Definitely reasonable. Anaheim is short 1-2 starters from being a true WS threat.

I really think it could happen. Send them Dominiguez and Folty or Lyles and I think it'd be done.



How is SFG's rotation doing? I think replacing Lyles with Zito would make this trade worth but IMO you could get back something else instead of Kontos/Edelfsen.

Granted, I don't like the idea of having Hector Sanchez as an every day catcher at an important position. Why don't you go for Jeff Mathis? Beauty framer, good defensively, all around meh. I really like him.

You could get Ceshek, from Miami, too, as a makeshift closer, but I don't think Castro would be included in that; you're better off keeping him.

Matt Dominguez has already been sent to the D'Backs. And Folty is staying put. So, not sure where that leaves this.

The Giants' rotation has been outstanding, except for Zito. I agree, I could look into upping the quality of reliever. I have Michael McKenry at C, he'd be the primary and Sanchez would be the backup. I am actually considering adding Jason Castro to the deal to back up Posey. Then I could just keep my current closer, McClellan.

So as a rough draft, it'd be: Belt + Sanchez + Brown + Reliever X for Lyles + Pena + Castro + Ruiz

Yeah, Mathis and Cishek from MIA is also something to think about.

Only starting?

Salvy would 100% have to be included. Salvy + Bubba/Mondesi + Lamb + Colon or someone MIGHT work.

I'd think the Rays would have a great deal of interest in Kyle Zimmer and Alcides Escobar (can't have too may Escobar's at SS, amirite?). Calixte, Gallagher, and Duffy would likely be around the fringes of said hypothetical deal.

[AC]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Definitely reasonable. Anaheim is short 1-2 starters from being a true WS threat.

Hmm. Interesting. I'll look into that.

Matt Dominguez has already been sent to the D'Backs. And Folty is staying put. So, not sure where that leaves this.

Who are your B's?

So as a rough draft, it'd be: Belt + Sanchez + Brown + Reliever X for Lyles + Pena + Castro + Ruiz

Actually, hmm, yeah, I could see that. Reliever X could be Heath Hembree.

Yeah, Mathis and Cishek from MIA is also something to think about.

Wouldn't cost much and Cishek is underrated.

I'd think the Rays would have a great deal of interest in Kyle Zimmer and Alcides Escobar (can't have too may Escobar's at SS, amirite?). Calixte, Gallagher, and Duffy would likely be around the fringes of said hypothetical deal.

Ooh, yeah, forgot about Duffy and Zimmer! Those guys can be added to that pool.

[royals19]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I'd think the Rays would have a great deal of interest in Kyle Zimmer and Alcides Escobar (can't have too may Escobar's at SS, amirite?). Calixte, Gallagher, and Duffy would likely be around the fringes of said hypothetical deal.

Probably. I bet that if Duffy comes back strong and continues to get better then he could definitely be a future center piece of a deal. Would they really want Esobar though? I know they're high on defense but they've also got Hak-Ju Lee coming up.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Who are your B's?

The only B's I'd trade right now would be Tropeano, Ruiz, and Grossman. Wojo was a B, as was Springer. DeShields, Folty, Singleton, Santana, Cosart, and McCullers are all hi-low B's I don't wish to deal.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Probably. I bet that if Duffy comes back strong and continues to get better then he could definitely be a future center piece of a deal. Would they really want Esobar though? I know they're high on defense but they've also got Hak-Ju Lee coming up.

Good question. My thoughts on Escobar would be more that TB would be concerned with his service time. Hak-Ju Lee just tore his knee up pretty bad and is out all year. Since his game is speed/defense (really no bat) it's anyone's guess as to how strong (and when) he comes back.

[AC]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

The only B's I'd trade right now would be Tropeano, Ruiz, and Grossman. Wojo was a B, as was Springer. DeShields, Folty, Singleton, Santana, Cosart, and McCullers are all hi-low B's I don't wish to deal.

Well you're trading for Sanchez so Hanigan wouldn't be included, right? One of those B's for Frazier is fine.

[royals19]

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Good question. My thoughts on Escobar would be more that TB would be concerned with his service time. Hak-Ju Lee just tore his knee up pretty bad and is out all year. Since his game is speed/defense (really no bat) it's anyone's guess as to how strong (and when) he comes back.

I agree. Escobar would be a nice option for them for a few years and they could potentially move Lee to 2nd. However, it might behoove them to save the extra cash and stick with Yunel Escobar at short because Alcides contract is going to be close to 6 million by the time it's up.

If I was TB though, I would want Escobar pretty bad since he can be a gold glove defender and hit at the top of the lineup which is something TB needs at short.

[AC]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

He'd be a good secondary piece, but not main.

[AC]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Emilio Bonifacio for Darin Ruf?

Bonifacio gives them the OF they desperately need (Delmon Young is not an OF), and Darin Ruf gives me the platooner I desperately need. Fair?

[royals19]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Emilio Bonifacio for Darin Ruf?

Bonifacio gives them the OF they desperately need (Delmon Young is not an OF), and Darin Ruf gives me the platooner I desperately need. Fair?

Who's he gonna platoon with?

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Emilio Bonifacio for Darin Ruf?

Bonifacio gives them the OF they desperately need (Delmon Young is not an OF), and Darin Ruf gives me the platooner I desperately need. Fair?

Yeah, don't see Ruf in their plans anyway. They might as well get a decent piece for him.

[hradekbr]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Emilio Bonifacio for Darin Ruf?

Bonifacio gives them the OF they desperately need (Delmon Young is not an OF), and Darin Ruf gives me the platooner I desperately need. Fair?

Eh I guess where's be gonna play in Phi ..... A corner OF?

[royals19]

Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Emilio Bonifacio for Darin Ruf?

Bonifacio gives them the OF they desperately need (Delmon Young is not an OF), and Darin Ruf gives me the platooner I desperately need. Fair?

Now would probably be the best time to make this trade because the Phillies are headed downhill and are probably going to be exploring youth options like Darin Ruf and could find he's incredibly valuable.