2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[Totte]

I'm the Mets, right after the All-Star break at 48-48. I'm still in contention but I'm also kinda looking to rebuild on the fly. One of the guys I'm looking to add is Dan Hudson from the D-Backs. He has a 4.13 ERA and Arizona has a few other MLB ready SP that they could use to replace Hudson. What would be a realistic deal for him as the Mets? Arizona is still in contention if that matters but I'd think they would want to give their young pitchers a chance over a struggling Hudson.

If I trade for Hudson I'd probably swing around and deal Jonathan Niese who is struggling with a 4.68 ERA and he's going to be arbitrational eligible so I'd rather not pay him. What teams would want him (standings are pretty accurate to real life)? And what could I get for him with his 4.68 ERA? Or should I just include Niese in my Hudson deal?

Nimmo for Hudson?

I agree with the previous poster that Niese isn't a fit n Arizona. Would be better off trading him in a separate deal to a contender looking for rotation depth. What teams re in contention? Give us teams and we'll provide names

What did you do with Johan Santana?

[nowitsourtime]

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Dbacks would have a hard time saying no to Flores for Hudson (Flores is a B right?)

[KomicJ]

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Wandy Rodriguez, Paul Maholm, Ricky Romero, Jon Niese, Derek Holland? In addition to Price obviously.

Hell, Lindor + your 6/7th starter for Jay Bruce + Tony Cingrani + something else could work. You'd love Cingrani. Young Cliff Lee.

That would be great !
...but it seems I can't trade for Bruce (don't have the budget for him)
I would have to get rid of some salaries, which means trading Myers and/or Jiminez.

Quick question: do you guys play with budget on or off ?

[Totte]

2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

That would be great !
...but it seems I can't trade for Bruce (don't have the budget for him)
I would have to get rid of some salaries, which means trading Myers and/or Jiminez.

Quick question: do you guys play with budget on or off ?

I play with budgets on.

Myers is unlikely to be dealt since he was signed this winter. At least not traded until at the deadline.

Send Ubaldo packing to the Angels for Luis Jimenez (3B rookie that always seems to rake in chises) and a young lefty in Nick Maronde or Andrew Taylor

[AC]

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That would be great !
...but it seems I can't trade for Bruce (don't have the budget for him)
I would have to get rid of some salaries, which means trading Myers and/or Jiminez.

Quick question: do you guys play with budget on or off ?

I play with budgets off, but I 30 team it. Would you be okay with trading Myers? If you wanted, you could trade Myers/Jimenez + Carrasco + Donald to the Jays for Romero/Happ + Bonifacio. A salary dump + lottery ticket depth for someone easy to pitch with in Romero or someone who puts up very nice sim numbers in Happ, and Bonifacio who makes surprisingly nice contact in game and racks up the gaudy stolen base numbers as a useful bench piece, plus, this would get you another lefty.

[Pesan915]

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Sup guys,

I'm currently sitting 39-44 with a couple of games left in my Marlins franchise before the All-Star game and I'm looking around for possible teams that have good talent of players on their farm and ML team to trade for Stanton. What will I be able to get in return from either Cardinals(48-35), Pirates (44-39) or Twins (41-42). Although, Stanton is a beast I'm eager to see what other pieces I can add to the team that will help win a World Series in the near future.

Thanks guys

[D13]

No. Barney is a liability at SS. Wouldn't work. I'd rather have a GG second baseman than a average to below average SS--it would kill 100% of his value. In the only game I saw Barney play at SS last year, he made 1 error and nearly booted another. He doesn't have SS-type range.

Well not to burst your bubble but Castro is out for 4 weeks and was forced to move him to SS. he's playing terrific ball and hasn't had a error 3 weeks in.

It was either him or Valbuena at SS. & Luis doesn't have ANY range.

He's played really well for me at SS in my chise.

[jbrsanders13]

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Nimmo for Hudson?

I agree with the previous poster that Niese isn't a fit n Arizona. Would be better off trading him in a separate deal to a contender looking for rotation depth. What teams re in contention? Give us teams and we'll provide names

What did you do with Johan Santana?

I didn't want to give up Nimmo or Flores so I just decide on OF Cesar Puello, who's a high B, for Hudson. Cahill was just sitting in their bullpen so I plugged him into their rotation. Does it sound fair? Puello was hitting .290 with 9 HR and 10 SB at Triple A.

I used Santana for the first couple months and I wasn't doing too well with him so I just manually injured him for the rest of the year so I could call up Zack Wheeler.

Niese's value on the spreadsheet is two mid B's but he is 3-10 with a 4.76 ERA so that seems like too high of a return. What would be a fair return for him? Teams in contention that could use him are the Giants, Blue Jays, Padres, Phillies, and the maybe the Twins.

[Totte]

I didn't want to give up Nimmo or Flores so I just decide on OF Cesar Puello, who's a high B, for Hudson. Cahill was just sitting in their bullpen so I plugged him into their rotation. Does it sound fair? Puello was hitting .290 with 9 HR and 10 SB at Triple A..

One could argue that the Snakes are worried about his arm and that they sold him for 80 cents on the dollar. Given how they have plenty of pitching depth I see nothing wrong with that.

II used Santana for the first couple months and I wasn't doing too well with him so I just manually injured him for the rest of the year so I could call up Zack Wheeler..

How about if Santana makes a speedy recovery and you send him back to the Twins (you mentioned they were somewhat contending). Would be a salary dump for you on a player you're most likely not gonna retain after the season. Something small and simple like Brian Duensing in return (my favorite swingman to use in the whole game as I always pitch well with him).

INiese's value on the spreadsheet is two mid B's but he is 3-10 with a 4.76 ERA so that seems like too high of a return. What would be a fair return for him? Teams in contention that could use him are the Giants, Blue Jays, Padres, Phillies, and the maybe the Twins.

Joe Panik and Heath Hembree from the Giants

Sean Nolin and Deck McGuire (low B?) from the Jays

Adys Portillo, Brad Brach/Miles Mikolas and Will Venable from the Padres

Jesse Biddle, Tyson Gillies and Freddy Galvis from the Phillies (don't recommend trading within the Division)

Trevor May, Ryan Pressly and Oswaldo Arcia from the Twins

I'd personally try get the Giants or Padres to bite. Panik would become your starting SS in a year or two while Hembree could close or work in setup for Parnell within a year. Getting Portillo from the Padres would net you that valuable SP depth in the minors. Brach/Mikolas could work in setup or close in AAA for now or be an everyday MRP in the majors. Venable would instantly become your best leadoff option with his wheels

[KomicJ]

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I play with budgets off, but I 30 team it. Would you be okay with trading Myers? If you wanted, you could trade Myers/Jimenez + Carrasco + Donald to the Jays for Romero/Happ + Bonifacio. A salary dump + lottery ticket depth for someone easy to pitch with in Romero or someone who puts up very nice sim numbers in Happ, and Bonifacio who makes surprisingly nice contact in game and racks up the gaudy stolen base numbers as a useful bench piece, plus, this would get you another lefty.

Quick question: You suggested Lindor + 6th/7th starter for Bruce + Cingrani + "something else". Could that 6th/7th starter be Scott Kazmir (lefty for lefty), or something more along the line of McAllister/Tomlin ?

Also, how good is that "something else" ? I'd be interested by (RP) J.J. Hoover, (2B) Henry Rodriguez or (CF) Yorman Rodriguez, but I have the feeling that might be too much.

As for your Indians/Jays suggestion, Bonifacio really ain't my guy (Florida was my team last year in The Show). Plus, I know they're kinda having a hard time in real life, but looking at the Jays rotation in the game, they don't seem to really need a Myers/Jiminez.

Minnesota could seem like a good trade partner, but aside from the obvious Sano and Buxton, I don't see a lot of players I would be interested in. So, no...

What about Colorado ? They have many interesting young fielders (W.Swanner, N.Arenado, R.Wheeler, K.Parker, T.Colvin and T.Wheeler), and could probably use a Myers/Jiminez.

Pittsburgh also have a couple of pieces I would be interested: J.McDonald, G.Jones, P.Alvarez...but I'm not sure how interested they would be to add another pitcher at this point.

Actually, I'll run a test first...I'm not even sure clearing only one of Myers/Jiminez would be enough to clear space for Bruce.

[Totte]

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Quick question: You suggested Lindor + 6th/7th starter for Bruce + Cingrani + "something else". Could that 6th/7th starter be Scott Kazmir (lefty for lefty), or something more along the line of McAllister/Tomlin ?

McAllister/Tomlin/Kluber

Also, how good is that "something else" ? I'd be interested by (RP) J.J. Hoover, (2B) Henry Rodriguez or (CF) Yorman Rodriguez, but I have the feeling that might be too much.

Hoover is an important part of the Cincy pen but both H-Rod and Y-Rod are blocked by Nrandpn Phillips (long term deal) and Billy Hamilton at their respective positions so they'd at least be available in talks.

What about Colorado ? They have many interesting young fielders (W.Swanner, N.Arenado, R.Wheeler, K.Parker, T.Colvin and T.Wheeler), and could probably use a Myers/Jiminez.

Pittsburgh also have a couple of pieces I would be interested: J.McDonald, G.Jones, P.Alvarez...but I'm not sure how interested they would be to add another pitcher at this point.

I only think they'd wanna add a pitcher if they're in contention. If they were in contention, neither one of McDonald, Jones or Pedro would be available. More along the lines of Chase d'Arnaud, Jordy Mercer, Jose Tabata or if the player is right - Gregory Polanco/Alen Hanson.

Actually, I'll run a test first...I'm not even sure clearing only one of Myers/Jiminez would be enough to clear space for Bruce.

Do that and get back to us

[Totte]

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Sup guys,

I'm currently sitting 39-44 with a couple of games left in my Marlins franchise before the All-Star game and I'm looking around for possible teams that have good talent of players on their farm and ML team to trade for Stanton. What will I be able to get in return from either Cardinals(48-35), Pirates (44-39) or Twins (41-42). Although, Stanton is a beast I'm eager to see what other pieces I can add to the team that will help win a World Series in the near future.

Thanks guys

The Cardinals as a trading partner for Stanton was covered a couple of weeks ago in this very same thread. You'd probably get the best sense of what's realistic if you go back and read it using the search tool rather than us re-posting it so to speak.

The Twins could offer upp Alex Meyer, Kyle Gibson, Byron Buxton and Oswaldo Arcia for Stanton but that's barely face value for him and would drain the whole Twins system making it highly unlikely.

The Pirates have the pieces and I think we touched on that while being on the Cards as a possible trade partner. Alen Hanson, Gregory Polanco, James Taillon and something more...Jose Tabata is certainly not a prospect anymore but fits the Marlins market and could use a fresh start.

[KomicJ]

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Do that and get back to us

Back to square one I guess...damn ! I really liked to idea of Bruce, but I would have to trade at least two of Masterson/Myers/Jimenez elsewhere before to make it work under the cap. That would kill my rotation, and that's a bit too many changes (3 trades total, since they're aren't part of the Bruce deal).

[kmoser]

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Would it be realistic for the White Sox to trade Dayan Viciedo?

Also the Jason Castro just got injured and is out for 2-3 months. The Red Sox put Salty on the block. they aquired Mauer last year and they have 2 catchers below Salty that could be MLB ready. I will offer Rhiner Cruz and Kyle Blanks or Dallas keuchal. I will only trade Blanks if the Viciedo trade goes through.

[Totte]

Would it be realistic for the White Sox to trade Dayan Viciedo?

Also the Jason Castro just got injured and is out for 2-3 months. The Red Sox put Salty on the block. they aquired Mauer last year and they have 2 catchers below Salty that could be MLB ready. I will offer Rhiner Cruz and Kyle Blanks or Dallas keuchal. I will only trade Blanks if the Viciedo trade goes through.

Viciedo is considered the replacement for Paulie at 1B next year but if the price is right, I'm sure they'd deal him.

Salty is definitely expendable if the Sox acquired Mauer. Either Cruz/Blanks or Cruz/Keuchel is fine