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  • G3no_11
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    • Oct 2012
    • 1110

    #7921
    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by ACMilan99
    I am extremely interested in working on something like this. Watch your inbox, I'm out but when I get home I'll PM you.
    I am also interested. Sounds like a great idea. I'm not an expert by any means but I would love to help out.
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    • UK0wnag3
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      • Apr 2012
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      #7922
      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by CameRoN0407
      He can easily hold down the fort for you as he did me!
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      • tylerh
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        • Jan 2011
        • 207

        #7923
        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        What kind of realistic package from the Braves would be able to pry Pedro Alvarez away from the Pirates? I'm willing to part with big-leaguers, namely Chris Johnson, Kris Medlen, Brandon Beachy, Paul Maholm, and Tyler Pastornicky.
        Last edited by tylerh; 07-24-2013, 03:30 PM.

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        • Shock1011
          Rookie
          • Dec 2011
          • 274

          #7924
          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by tylerh
          What kind of realistic package from the Braves would be able to pry Pedro Alvarez away from the Pirates? I'm willing to part with big-leaguers, namely Chris Johnson, Kris Medlen, Brandon Beachy, Paul Maholm, and Tyler Pastornicky.
          If Medlen is playing really well you might be able to get Alvarez + a low C or something like that. If Alvarez is playing well I think it'd be fair straight up. Not sure on realism though
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          • AC
            Win the East
            • Sep 2010
            • 14951

            #7925
            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by Shock1011
            If Medlen is playing really well you might be able to get Alvarez + a low C or something like that. If Alvarez is playing well I think it'd be fair straight up. Not sure on realism though
            Probably unrealistic, and as an aside, I vehemently disagree with your signature lol

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            Last edited by AC; 07-24-2013, 04:26 PM.
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            • BlueJays09
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              • Jul 2011
              • 2553

              #7926
              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              9 games in...Danks is in AAA and KC could use him as a starter.

              KC Starters: Sheilds, Davis, Duffy (9.85 ERA), Paulino (14.20 ERA), Zimmer (16.88 ERA)

              Danks has played 3 innings of relief and only allowed 3 hits before being sent down to make room for Morrow. Last season in 18 games he started 16 for me and went 8-3 with 3.77 ERA and 1.35 WHIP and 74K's.

              He is values at high C in the spreadsheet and I was going to package him with Jacob Anderson (Mid B in my game, not in spreadsheet). Here is my proposed trade:

              Toronto sends Danks, Anderson to KC for Lorenzo Cain, Nathan Adcock, Luis Mendoza. Here are the stats of the players coming from KC.

              Cain (Mid B)- Hasnt played yet this year (Brown, Gordon, Lough the outfield). Last year he was .247 with 8 HR, 28 RBI, 80 R and 31 SB in 157 games.

              Mendoza (Low C) - in AAA now, and didnt play all last year (no clue why). Stared 1 game is 0-0 with 0.00 ERA and 1.96 WHIP

              Adcock (High C) - in AAA made 5 appearances with 1.59 ERA and 1.06 WHIP. Last year he made 8 appearances for KC supporting a 3.86 ERA and 1.50 WHIP, the rest are AAA stats.

              I rid Danks sallary but lose Anderson, KC gets a MLB starter tht that need and OF prospect while trading a 4th OF and 2 AAA Arms. Think I could maybe get more or am I asking to much from them. Also with your responses please advise how I can make better (aka who to add from each side to make it work)

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              • Jakesparrow1008
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                • Aug 2012
                • 314

                #7927
                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by G3no_11
                I am also interested. Sounds like a great idea. I'm not an expert by any means but I would love to help out.
                If you guys wanted, I'd love to help with it.

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                • HadlerT
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 664

                  #7928
                  Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  I'm at July 30th, and I'm away from my game right now, but I want to trade the following players:

                  1B/DH Morales
                  OF/1B/DH Mike Morse
                  OF Jason Bay
                  OF Endy Chavez
                  SS Brenden Ryan
                  SP Hisashi Iwakuma
                  SP Joe Saunders
                  SP Aaron Harang
                  Either Oliver Perez OR Tom Wilhelmsen. One or the other.

                  I obiously want to get good returns on Morales, Morse (having great year), Iwakuma (good year) and Perez/Wilhelmsen.

                  I get home soon, and was wondering what other info you need to know to help.

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                  Last edited by HadlerT; 07-24-2013, 07:50 PM.
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                  • AC
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                    • Sep 2010
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                    #7929
                    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by HadlerT
                    I get home soon, and was wondering what other info you need to know to help.
                    Stats would help, but once again, spreadsheet.
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                    • CameRoN0407
                      It's a New England Thing
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 3328

                      #7930
                      2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by ACMilan99
                      Stats would help, but once again, spreadsheet.
                      lol, I can't really help him on Harang w/o bias. He's been lights in mine. But I can tell him right now, you can get a cookie at max for Bay.

                      But yea. Waiting on stats


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                      • bwoodring9
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                        • May 2012
                        • 683

                        #7931
                        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Looking to try and acquire Bud Norris from Houston, whom I hopefully think will be relatively cheap. He's 2-6 with a 4.42 ERA with 94 K's in 91.2 innings. His WHIP is 1.24. What do you guys think about a package of maybe Adam Morgan and Justin Friend? I like Morgan a lot and he's a mid B as far as I can tell, and Friend is a high C so this might be a bit of an over pay. However the only other "prospect" I have around the low B range is Cloyd. What do you guys think? Also thinking about sending Alexei Ramirez to STL. There have been some rumors irl that the Cards offered a package involving Carlos Martinez, but I was thinking more of either Patrick Wisdom, Starlin Rodriguez, or instead of a B prospect maybe 2 high C's like the spreadsheet says, perhaps Victor De Leon and Jorge Rondon?

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                        • HadlerT
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                          • Sep 2011
                          • 664

                          #7932
                          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          1B/DH Kendrys Morales: .236 AVG, 11 HR, 47 RBI
                          (EDIT: Wow, didnt know his BA was so low! Lower than Brenden Ryans!)

                          OF/1B/DH Mike Morse: .284, 27 HR (leads league), 79 RBI

                          OF Jason Bay: (SSS - 41 games) .286, 4 HR, 11RBI

                          OF Endy Chavez (been in AAA all year): .389, 12 HR, 64 RBI 26 SB

                          SS Brenden Ryan: .245, 7 HR, 38 RBI (starter)

                          SP Hisashi Iwakuma: 21 GS, 8-4, 2.85 ERA, 107 K

                          SP Joe Saunders: 21 GS, 7-8 5.87 ERA, 80 K

                          SP Aaron Harang 21 GS, 4-9 4.40 ERA, 92 K

                          CP/SU Oliver Perez: 0.95 ERA, 12.9 K/9, 13/13 SV%

                          CP/SU Tom Wilhelmsen: 1.63 ERA, 9.2 K/9, 15/19 SV%


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                          Last edited by HadlerT; 07-24-2013, 08:15 PM.
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                          • AC
                            Win the East
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 14951

                            #7933
                            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by HadlerT
                            1B/DH Kendrys Morales: .236 AVG, 11 HR, 47 RBI

                            High C

                            OF/1B/DH Mike Morse: .284, 27 HR (leads league), 79 RBI

                            High B

                            OF Jason Bay: (SSS - 41 games) .286, 4 HR, 11RBI

                            Cookie

                            OF Endy Chavez (been in AAA all year): .389, 12 HR, 64 RBI 26 SB

                            The crumbs from Bay's cookie

                            SS Brenden Ryan: .245, 7 HR, 38 RBI (starter)

                            The napkin from their cookie.. maybe a mid C

                            SP Hisashi Iwakuma: 21 GS, 8-4, 2.85 ERA, 107 K

                            High B

                            SP Joe Saunders: 21 GS, 7-8 5.87 ERA, 80 K

                            I'd say a cookie, but that seems like too much

                            SP Aaron Harang 21 GS, 4-9 4.40 ERA, 92 K

                            Low C

                            CP/SU Oliver Perez: 0.95 ERA, 12.9 K/9, 13/13 SV%

                            Low B

                            CP/SU Tom Wilhelmsen: 1.63 ERA, 9.2 K/9, 15/19 SV%

                            Low B + high C

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                            Who are the contenders, and what do they need? I could put together some trades.
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                            • WaitTilNextYear
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                              • Mar 2013
                              • 16830

                              #7934
                              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Trojan Man
                              OK. Thank you.

                              I've thought while reading this thread that it would be extremely useful if a global summary post were created that laid out the basic philosophy of each team, like how they value talent, likely buy/sell priorities in general terms (like deepening a certain position, stockpiling prospects, adding veterans, etc.).

                              I would be willing to organize and publish such a thread if those in the know about their teams or several/most teams would be willing to lend a hand. And if not, obviously no problem, but for franchise players like me who check the thread and spreadsheet but have trouble differentiating between fair and realistic, this would be helpful. I have a hunch I'm not the only one .
                              Wouldn't this just basically depend on a team's record? Am I oversimplifying it? If a team's crushing it, they buy. If a team's sucking, they sell. A small market team won't ever make a HUGE buy move. That's probably all you'd need to know.

                              As far as how teams value certain positions, I'm not sure you'd be in position to answer that without working in a MLB FO.
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                              • CameRoN0407
                                It's a New England Thing
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 3328

                                #7935
                                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by HadlerT
                                1B/DH Kendrys Morales: .236 AVG, 11 HR, 47 RBI
                                Spreadsheet

                                OF/1B/DH Mike Morse: .284, 27 HR (leads league), 79 RBI
                                High B, Low B,

                                OF Jason Bay: (SSS - 41 games) .286, 4 HR, 11RBI
                                Cookie

                                OF Endy Chavez (been in AAA all year): .389, 12 HR, 64 RBI 26 SB
                                Low F

                                SS Brenden Ryan: .245, 7 HR, 38 RBI (starter)
                                Half a Cookie

                                SP Hisashi Iwakuma: 21 GS, 8-4, 2.85 ERA, 107 K
                                High B, and Low B?

                                SP Joe Saunders: 21 GS, 7-8 5.87 ERA, 80 K
                                lol

                                SP Aaron Harang 21 GS, 4-9 4.40 ERA, 92 K
                                Mid C

                                CP/SU Oliver Perez: 0.95 ERA, 12.9 K/9, 13/13 SV%
                                Low B

                                CP/SU Tom Wilhelmsen: 1.63 ERA, 9.2 K/9, 15/19 SV%
                                2 Low B's
                                My opinions in bold.

                                EDIT: LOL AC!
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