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  • ROABS
    Like Father Like son
    • Dec 2006
    • 1071

    #496
    Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

    Originally posted by nomo17k
    Vote up the bug report ID10922 at the show nation bug report page. Read the bug report and you will magically rid of the problem.

    voted up...

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    • orion523
      All Star
      • Aug 2007
      • 6709

      #497
      Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

      Originally posted by Orion2012
      I've tried uninstalling the game and reinstalling, default sliders/All-Star. Still seem to always get a first pitch strike with the pitcher's primary pitch. Tried multiple games and it's always the same.

      I did notice that even if you don't change any settings the game will still allow me to "Apply Settings". If I change settings to HOF then back to AS in exhibition, I see no change in first pitch of the innings, if I do this in good-at bat mode of BP I THINK I see a change occasionally. Would be nice if someone else could try it and confirm.

      This all seems to me like the game is not recognising difficulty settings/going back to beginner (started my settings from experienced, not beginner) more then a logic issue. I don't see stepping out affecting pitching logic)

      Nomo17k actually mentions something similar in the Community day thread and I've seen him post a few times in this thread.

      "The first impression that I had with hitting at the CD event is that hitting had become AWFULLY EASIER for myself. I was always driving the very first pitch for an extra base hit, and wondered what happened. I have never juiced in my life. What I just had was Mountain Dew. It turned out my difficulty setting kept getting reset to the (much talked about) beginner's mode."(1-28-13 can't quote, mobile forum"

      So Nomo17k did it actually say it had defaulted to beginner's mode, or was it more of a bug, just trying to eliminate it being either difficulty setting bug or an AI bug.

      Sorry if the post is sloppy, forced to use mobile forum.
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      • Brandwin
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2002
        • 30621

        #498
        Calling time out doesn't seem to work for me.

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        • erod550
          Rookie
          • Jul 2007
          • 153

          #499
          Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

          On Veteran with the CPU sliders for control, consistency, and strike frequency turned down a couple notches, I do not have this problem. I'm getting about 60-65% strikes over the course of the game and almost no meatball first pitch strikes. When they do throw a first pitch strike it's almost never right down the middle.

          I'd probably like a few more balls and may adjust the sliders a bit more to get them, but so far once I changed the sliders it has been much better and I have been able to get into deeper counts.

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          • BrianU
            MVP
            • Nov 2008
            • 1565

            #500
            Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

            I don't think people are fully understanding of the issue here, I realize the thread is big and its a lot to read but the issue itself is very black and white and obvious to be a flaw

            my post again:

            The first pitch strike bug is:

            in RTTS
            Every at-bat

            in Exhibition/Franchise
            First at-bat of each inning + first pitch from the opponents reliever

            These are the circumstances you should use the step out of box timeout button (D-Pad down) to get a realistic first pitch strike ratio.

            You may ask yourself, well it's only a few pitches a game whats the big deal? The big deal is that people are hitting .400 in RTTS and have leadoff hitters in franchise hitting .400 because you KNOW you have a guaranteed good pitch the first pitch down the center of the plate, and its always the pitchers #1 rated pitch which is usually a fastball.... It takes a lot of the immersion out of the game and should be fixed. The batter call timeout fix is a god send but it is a minor annoyance it should have to be used at all it should work normally without a fix.
            Last edited by BrianU; 03-12-2013, 10:28 AM.

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            • dkrause1971
              All Star
              • Aug 2005
              • 5176

              #501
              Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

              Originally posted by erod550
              On Veteran with the CPU sliders for control, consistency, and strike frequency turned down a couple notches, I do not have this problem. I'm getting about 60-65% strikes over the course of the game and almost no meatball first pitch strikes. When they do throw a first pitch strike it's almost never right down the middle.

              I'd probably like a few more balls and may adjust the sliders a bit more to get them, but so far once I changed the sliders it has been much better and I have been able to get into deeper counts.
              Its hard to say if its the sliders, the level your on or that you wouldn't have the problem otherwise (some don't). The sample is just hard to say much either way.
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              • dkrause1971
                All Star
                • Aug 2005
                • 5176

                #502
                Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

                Originally posted by DookieMowf
                Calling time out doesn't seem to work for me.
                You could be calling it too early. Once the pitches white out then you call it.
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                • Millennium
                  Franchise Streamer
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 9889

                  #503
                  Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

                  Originally posted by BrianU
                  I don't think people are fully understanding of the issue here, I realize the thread is big and its a lot to read but the issue itself is very black and white and obvious to be a flaw

                  my post again:

                  The first pitch strike bug is:

                  in RTTS
                  Every at-bat

                  in Exhibition/Franchise
                  First at-bat of each inning + first pitch from the opponents reliever

                  These are the circumstances you should use the step out of box timeout button (D-Pad down) to get a realistic first pitch strike ratio.

                  You may ask yourself, well it's only a few pitches a game whats the big deal? The big deal is that people are hitting .400 in RTTS and have leadoff hitters in franchise hitting .400 because you KNOW you have a guaranteed good pitch the first pitch down the center of the plate, and its always the pitchers #1 rated pitch which is usually a fastball.... It takes a lot of the immersion out of the game and should be fixed. The batter call timeout fix is a god send but it is a minor annoyance it should have to be used at all it should work normally without a fix.
                  I don't have this issue in RTTS. My discipline rating is about 51, and while I do still see some fastballs, they are never K5 anymore. I'm also hitting about .313 with 11 HR's in August.

                  Out of curiosity, has anyone tried changing the lead off hitter for the game to someone a little more feared?

                  I still, to this day, do not see this as a bug.
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                  • Brandwin
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 30621

                    #504
                    Originally posted by dkrause1971
                    You could be calling it too early. Once the pitches white out then you call it.
                    I think I just spoke too soon. Seems to be working. I am seeing pitchers 3rd and 4th pitch on my first pitch and even if its a strike its not right down the middle.

                    For the record - In RTTS I call time before the first pitch at each at bat. Not before each pitch in an at bat?

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                    • Jonsco28
                      Bob Loblaw
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1057

                      #505
                      Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

                      Originally posted by BrianU

                      The first pitch strike bug is:

                      in RTTS
                      Every at-bat

                      I'm not seeing this at all. I've seen plenty of first pitches out of the strike zone.

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                      • nomo17k
                        Permanently Banned
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 5735

                        #506
                        Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

                        Originally posted by Millennium
                        I don't have this issue in RTTS. My discipline rating is about 51, and while I do still see some fastballs, they are never K5 anymore. I'm also hitting about .313 with 11 HR's in August.

                        Out of curiosity, has anyone tried changing the lead off hitter for the game to someone a little more feared?

                        I still, to this day, do not see this as a bug.
                        This seems to be a legit bug that happens to some people, but not everyone (I don't see this issue happening in my own games).
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                        • dkrause1971
                          All Star
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 5176

                          #507
                          Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

                          Originally posted by Millennium
                          I don't have this issue in RTTS. My discipline rating is about 51, and while I do still see some fastballs, they are never K5 anymore. I'm also hitting about .313 with 11 HR's in August.

                          Out of curiosity, has anyone tried changing the lead off hitter for the game to someone a little more feared?

                          I still, to this day, do not see this as a bug.
                          yes, its been tried on different levels, different teams, different modes. Its pretty obvious if you have it and test it. Not everyone seems to have the problem. Plenty of testing in the thread.
                          Last edited by dkrause1971; 03-12-2013, 10:38 AM.
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                          • orion523
                            All Star
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 6709

                            #508
                            Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

                            Piggybacking off of this thread I was looking for real MLB pitch data for each count and cannot find it anywhere, maybe someone here can help? What I need is the average MLB ball to strike ratio for each pitch count.

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                            • dpc134
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 194

                              #509
                              Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

                              For those not seeing the meatball issue:
                              When you first palyed the game, did you use "beginner" mode or pre-select a more difficult setting?
                              I am curious if this has anything to do with the bug.
                              I am seeing the meatball problem and I started the game on "Expert" settings.
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                              • dkrause1971
                                All Star
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 5176

                                #510
                                Re: first pitch meatballs....bug?

                                Originally posted by orion523
                                Piggybacking off of this thread I was looking for real MLB pitch data for each count and cannot find it anywhere, maybe someone here can help? What I need is the average MLB ball to strike ratio for each pitch count.
                                Other than first pitch and overall i have never seen all the counts listed before. I would be interested in seeing this as well. I have seen 58% for first pitch and 63% overall numerous times.
                                Gamertag and PSN Name: RomanCaesar

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