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  • BBallcoach
    MVP
    • Dec 2012
    • 1524

    #46
    Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

    Originally posted by TGov
    Id like to know where SCEA is getting these contracts from or why theyre coming up with these contracts and budgets...
    If they cant be realistic because of the MLBPA or whatever why not just cut the real contracts and budgets in half, at least then we know how the budget system works...
    Or is that too obvious to the point where it would be realistic???
    it's basically in half, some guys have big contracts, but the averages tend to run low.
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    • Majingir
      Moderator
      • Apr 2005
      • 47484

      #47
      Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

      I ended up finding a small work around on this. I just signed the undrafted free agents that I wanted to sign, in early november, then made my signings after and it worked out fine.

      One thing I hate bout it is that arbitration eligible guys almost never accept deals. So I'm forced to have so many of those guys going to arbitration, and unable to sign free agents cause I don't know how much room I'll have(it's not so much a MLB13 problem,just a problem on MLB games I've had past few years)

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      • Threeebs
        Rookie
        • Mar 2013
        • 451

        #48
        Many variables...

        So for a successful off season:

        1. Fill your coaching staff. (offers to your coaching staff go toward your pendings offers as well, so get that done as soon as possible so you know what your remaining budget actually is).

        2. Make sure you have at least 35 men on your 40 man roster.

        3. Offer contracts to all of the minor league free agents in your organization that you actually want to keep for next season.

        4. Hold off on offering contracts to players on your 40 man roster for now, as they demand the bulk of your remaining budget. Don't even offer arbitration to those who qualify because whatever THEY'RE asking for in arbitration is the total added to your pending offers.

        5. If you have any qualified free agents that can leave for free agency, and you want to keep them, I suggest offering them contracts as well. These free agents tend to take lower offers to stay with the team.

        6. Simulate until the free agency period opens (5 days).

        7. Fill your roster needs through free agency. You'll easily be able to sign the minor leaguers but there is some sort of calculation made for potential roster players so I suggest having at least 80 men in your organization. They don't neccessarily all have to be signed, but at the very least binded to your organization, waiting for contract offers. Depending on how much money you have, try signing some of the bigger free agents that you want/need to fill out your major leauge roster. You can probably find out how much money you can actually spend by offering a contract and simulating each day, re-offering the contract with a different value until the contract isn't pulled.

        8. After you fill your needs through free agency and you are no longer looking to sign free agents, offer contracts and arbitration to those who qualify to your organization's free agents. You can actually go over your budget now, but you can no longer sign qualified free agents, that's why it's important to take care of that first.

        9. Simulate to the day you have to set your 40 man roster. Make the adjustments so that you don't lose prospects that are available to be picked in the rule 5 draft. (usually A prospects of course and high B prospects that have been in your organization for 4 years).

        10. If any of your free agents decide they didn't like your intial offer and you still want to keep them, make sure to re-offer them a better contract before the date of the last day to offer contracts to your organization's players or they wil become free agents, available for anyone to sign.
        T.K.

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        • Threeebs
          Rookie
          • Mar 2013
          • 451

          #49
          Yet another variable...

          This time I had a lot of budget room but couldn't seem to offer a contract to a free agent over 3 million dollars. I started playing around again and found that the more men you have on your 40 man roster, the more you can spend. At the time I had 38 men on my 40 man, so I upped it to 39 and I was able to offer another million bucks in the deal. When I upped it to 40, I was able to offer 2 more million dollars. I was also able to offer the identicle dollar values to more than one free agent, however, when one of the free agents accepted the offer, the offers of the same value I had out were immediately pulled, even though I had more than enough budget room for all of the offers I had out. You usually don't want to go into free agency with a full 40 man already because than you'll have to pass players through waivers to remove them from the 40 man, risking losing them altogether. So I offered Wilton Lopes (4 million over 2 years) and Dan Uggla (one year, 2.1 million). I was over my offer limit by one million dollars but when Wilton Lopes signed it gave me 39 men on my 40 man and another million dollars to spend, allowing Dan Uggla to accept his one year 2.1 million dollar offer, which he eventually did. So keep a high number on your 40 man, but allow room for free agents that you wish to sign. If you want to maximize your dollars, keep a couple guys extra on your 40 men that you may have alternatively released. Sign the free agents then release those guys you kept just for that purpose. The trick is to find the dollar value that you're allowed to offer, then work it like I did until you can spend the money you're allowed to on all of the things you target.
          T.K.

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          • JayD
            All Star
            • Mar 2004
            • 5457

            #50
            Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

            this hurts my brain when I read this. I am also having issues with signing free agents even with all of the players signed and I still am 10 million under budget.

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            • ForzaZuffa
              Rookie
              • Mar 2012
              • 52

              #51
              Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

              Appreciate the work done tabarnes. Here's my problem that I've seen for years now. Year 3 and The cpu teams are all right up against their budgets (I'm not though) so I can't make any trades with them unless salaries are exactly even. So either they seem to be mismanaging budgets or their budgets aren't growing. It's ruined the mode in two different files.

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              • tabarnes19_SDS
                Game Designer
                • Feb 2003
                • 3084

                #52
                Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

                It is usually the opposite, Most teams have too much available. Just like in real life then you have to take on a big contract when you trade with them. You aren't going to be able to take the good cheap talent.

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                • C_Bailey24
                  Pro
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 691

                  #53
                  Re: Many variables...

                  Originally posted by Threeebs
                  So for a successful off season:

                  1. Fill your coaching staff. (offers to your coaching staff go toward your pendings offers as well, so get that done as soon as possible so you know what your remaining budget actually is).

                  2. Make sure you have at least 35 men on your 40 man roster.

                  3. Offer contracts to all of the minor league free agents in your organization that you actually want to keep for next season.

                  4. Hold off on offering contracts to players on your 40 man roster for now, as they demand the bulk of your remaining budget. Don't even offer arbitration to those who qualify because whatever THEY'RE asking for in arbitration is the total added to your pending offers.

                  5. If you have any qualified free agents that can leave for free agency, and you want to keep them, I suggest offering them contracts as well. These free agents tend to take lower offers to stay with the team.

                  6. Simulate until the free agency period opens (5 days).

                  7. Fill your roster needs through free agency. You'll easily be able to sign the minor leaguers but there is some sort of calculation made for potential roster players so I suggest having at least 80 men in your organization. They don't neccessarily all have to be signed, but at the very least binded to your organization, waiting for contract offers. Depending on how much money you have, try signing some of the bigger free agents that you want/need to fill out your major leauge roster. You can probably find out how much money you can actually spend by offering a contract and simulating each day, re-offering the contract with a different value until the contract isn't pulled.

                  8. After you fill your needs through free agency and you are no longer looking to sign free agents, offer contracts and arbitration to those who qualify to your organization's free agents. You can actually go over your budget now, but you can no longer sign qualified free agents, that's why it's important to take care of that first.

                  9. Simulate to the day you have to set your 40 man roster. Make the adjustments so that you don't lose prospects that are available to be picked in the rule 5 draft. (usually A prospects of course and high B prospects that have been in your organization for 4 years).

                  10. If any of your free agents decide they didn't like your intial offer and you still want to keep them, make sure to re-offer them a better contract before the date of the last day to offer contracts to your organization's players or they wil become free agents, available for anyone to sign.

                  Great post. Wish i would have read this about 3 hours ago lol

                  I started a franchise with the Phillies just to sim through and see how all the roster/offseason stuff works. Man oh man. Luckily i saved on Oct. 31st because it took me three tries to get through the offseason without a bunch of mistakes and "can no longer offer contract" prompts. My last try i finally got my MLB team the way i want but i screwed up my minors. I decided to wait to re-sign my minor league players really late in February because those seemingly low contracts were causing me to not be able to fill out my major league roster like i wanted. It was pulling the contract offers of guys like Dominic Brown and Michael Stutes who were asking for pennies. So i ended up signing 90% of my minor league players the first day of spring training. I then hit "End Spring Training". Little did i know the A.I. was adding most of these scrubs to my 40-man roster. I go to play my first game and it says i have 51 guys on the 40-man and when i try to remove guys it says that EACH TEAM in my system has the maximum amount of players allowed already on waivers (5) when in fact i have 5 TOTAL in the ORGANIZATION on waivers. Is this how it is in real life...only 5 at a time on waivers?

                  So i can not advance or play a game or remove anyone from the 40-man. I guess my only solution other than starting all the way over is to release 11 guys? I'm all for an in-depth franchise mode but i think there needs to be a little more helpful prompts along the way to assists with things like these.

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                  • AUTiger1
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 2413

                    #54
                    Re: Many variables...

                    Ok I'm having troubles here with my Twins franchise.

                    Budget - 64,350,000
                    Available Budge - 28,432,482
                    Pending Offers - 19,685,981
                    Difference - 8,746,501

                    I just got denied trying to sign Paul Konerko to a 2-year contract where his salary for year 1 was less than 1 mill. I have all my coaches and scouts signed. So where did I go wrong in trying to sign Konerko? Do the Arbitration players not show up in the pending offers? Oh and I currently have 87 players on my team.
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                    • AUTiger1
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 2413

                      #55
                      Re: Many variables...

                      Originally posted by AUTiger1
                      Ok I'm having troubles here with my Twins franchise.

                      Budget - 64,350,000
                      Available Budge - 28,432,482
                      Pending Offers - 19,685,981
                      Difference - 8,746,501

                      I just got denied trying to sign Paul Konerko to a 2-year contract where his salary for year 1 was less than 1 mill. I have all my coaches and scouts signed. So where did I go wrong in trying to sign Konerko? Do the Arbitration players not show up in the pending offers? Oh and I currently have 87 players on my team.
                      Ok I'm getting pissed that I can't sign any free agents. What in the hell do I do?

                      I honestly don't know what the hell to do anymore. I mean I have 16,463,650 in pending offers with 30,884,482 in available budget and that's with ZERO (0) offers to free agents (because it won't let me sign any), and contract renewable players. So all 16,463,650 has to be from my 4 arbitration players. So why can't I sign any free agents? :
                      Last edited by AUTiger1; 03-18-2013, 01:35 AM.
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                      • Clarke99
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 462

                        #56
                        Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

                        This is what it is, and what it is, is way to complex for a game. Granted this is what its like in real life MLB but honestly 95% of the consumers who buy this game will get severely annoyed by the complexity of the way the offseason works.

                        Even coming to terms with how it works and understanding it I refuse to do this over and over again, its waaay to exhausting. never thought it would come to this but looks like enabling unlimited salary at the beginning of franchise and season modes is the way to go this year.

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                        • Threeebs
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 451

                          #57
                          Re: Many variables...

                          I know it's frusturating man. For every additional player on your 40 man roster, you have another million to spend. so make sure our 40 man is pretty full. Although your pending offers vs. your available budget may seem far off, it really isn't in this year's game. Please read my edited guide:

                          T.K.

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                          • AUTiger1
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 2413

                            #58
                            Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

                            Originally posted by Clarke99
                            This is what it is, and what it is, is way to complex for a game. Granted this is what its like in real life MLB but honestly 95% of the consumers who buy this game will get severely annoyed by the complexity of the way the offseason works.

                            Even coming to terms with how it works and understanding it I refuse to do this over and over again, its waaay to exhausting. never thought it would come to this but looks like enabling unlimited salary at the beginning of franchise and season modes is the way to go this year.
                            I think I finally figured out how to do off-season. Don't offer any of your arbitration eligible players contracts at the beginning. Just skip that part. Sign what players you can sign from your own team in that 5-day window before the start of free agency. Then go to free agency and sign the guys you want. Then when the deadline to offer arbitration eligible players comes offer them deals then so you don't lose them.

                            It just is really stupid that I couldn't sign a single free agent and after the arbitration hearings I still had over 12 mil in available budget.
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                            • AUTiger1
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 2413

                              #59
                              Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

                              Originally posted by AUTiger1
                              I think I finally figured out how to do off-season. Don't offer any of your arbitration eligible players contracts at the beginning. Just skip that part. Sign what players you can sign from your own team in that 5-day window before the start of free agency. Then go to free agency and sign the guys you want. Then when the deadline to offer arbitration eligible players comes offer them deals then so you don't lose them.

                              It just is really stupid that I couldn't sign a single free agent and after the arbitration hearings I still had over 12 mil in available budget.
                              I thought I had this thing figured out but I don't. SCEA has taken all the fun outta franchise mode. It's impossible to work with such strict budget restraints. It's impossible to sign anyone in free agency.
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                              • JoeCoolMan24
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2005
                                • 1255

                                #60
                                Re: "Can no longer afford the contract offered"

                                Originally posted by AUTiger1
                                I thought I had this thing figured out but I don't. SCEA has taken all the fun outta franchise mode. It's impossible to work with such strict budget restraints. It's impossible to sign anyone in free agency.
                                I just read through this thread and this stuff sounds really confusing, even if it is realistic. But a poster just mentioned doing unlimited budgets or something, so maybe that's the way to go.

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