Right fielder throwing out runner at first?

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Re: Right fielder throwing out runner at first?

I've thrown out 2 or 3 runners with Jason Heyward thus far 7 games in franchise using default all-star - coulda been more, but the throw was off the base.

Basically everything is playing pretty good for me now so I'm not going to change anything, I'm just going to house rule the RF throws to first on base hits. I'm on VITA btw.

At the end of the day, it's not a huge issue for me - I'll just not do it from here on out. All other running seems pretty good as far as throw/run speeds.

[blueduke]

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IMO the RF plays too shallow. Easy thing to do is to not throw the ball to 1B in the first place but that doesn't take away from the RF playing too shallow. A ball hit deep to right means in some cases a ball being hit over his head he would have gotten to if fielder was playing normal depth

[Woodweaver]

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I've thrown out 2 or 3 runners with Jason Heyward thus far 7 games in franchise using default all-star - coulda been more, but the throw was off the base.

Basically everything is playing pretty good for me now so I'm not going to change anything, I'm just going to house rule the RF throws to first on base hits. I'm on VITA btw.

At the end of the day, it's not a huge issue for me - I'll just not do it from here on out. All other running seems pretty good as far as throw/run speeds.

If you are doing it that often, something is definitely NOT working correctly. Please send me a video if you continue to see this frequency.

[JoeT]

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This happens quite often to my LH RTTS player. I wish there was a faster animation.

I've thrown out 2 or 3 runners with Jason Heyward thus far 7 games in franchise using default all-star - coulda been more, but the throw was off the base.

Basically everything is playing pretty good for me now so I'm not going to change anything, I'm just going to house rule the RF throws to first on base hits. I'm on VITA btw.

At the end of the day, it's not a huge issue for me - I'll just not do it from here on out. All other running seems pretty good as far as throw/run speeds.

If you are doing it that often, something is definitely NOT working correctly. Please send me a video if you continue to see this frequency.

I've not seen the throwing the runner out at first this year, but the runner on first slowing down on hard hits to RF can get thrown out at 2nd quite a bit easier than in real life. I wish the pitcher had the same AI to avoid baseballs hit back at them at these baserunners do. In fact, I think this would solve the old "pitchers get hit too often" complaint that many have voiced.

[dazzelle]

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I wish the pitcher had the same AI to avoid baseballs hit back at them at these baserunners do.

Don't want to take this thread off topic but are pitchers affected by the fielders sliders.I know very little and have probably never seen a real full game of MLB but have felt in the games i have played that the pitcher reacts better than what his fielding stats say he should.
Not so much that he is stopping anything that go's near him or hits him but how quickly he moves after coming out of the pitching motion.
Feel the same thing with catchers, had one rip off his mask and morph thru my batter to get to the ball before my batter had even thought about running.luckily only seen it the once.

Thanks PlayDaFool..

ot: get to watch (my) Rangers play monday morning,probably wont get to watch it all before work but at least there's no chance of the score being spoilt before i watch the rest when i get home. going thru the T.V. guide i get about 8 games a week

[Legionnaire]

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In past Shows, especially last year, I've gunned guys down at 1st on balls hit to the right fielder.

I've always been frustrated by the very common occurrence where the ball is hit right to my RF, and he fields it fast and comes up firing, only to find the 1B isn't bothering to go over to the bag to be ready for the throw there. So I think I'm about to throw the guy out at first, but really I'm just hustling to get the ball back into the infield to my 1st baseman who is casually strolling around like the play's already over (when in fact we'd have gotten the out if he just hurried back to the bag and got ready for the throw there).

I always suspected they programmed the 1B to be sort of lousy about going to the bag in these situations as a band-aid to cover up the problem of how readily possible it is to throw guys out at 1st base. As frustrated as I get when I squander the chance to throw the guy out at 1st because my 1B is loafing around away from the bag, I'd be much more annoyed if the game actually let me make those plays with any frequency.

[Troopershorty51]

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I actually did this a lot in MLB 12 and I have a feeling that because fixing whatever is the issue (Be it fielder arm strength or speed of the ball to the outfield) they instead made a set animation for the 1st basemen to come off the bag on throws from RF. I've had plays identical to times I would easily throw a runner out from RF in 12 and every time the 1st basemen pulls off.

I have no issue with this, assuming it's intended it's very unrealistic to have people getting thrown out at first often and this method doesn't mess anything else up.

[PlayDaFool]

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I think it's more realistic to have the First baseman NOT covering the bag on balls hit to right. It's an assumed basehit at that point. It's extremely rare to have a 9-3 put-out. Most infielders don't cover the bags on balls that leave the infield.

[nomo17k]

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I think it's more realistic to have the First baseman NOT covering the bag on balls hit to right. It's an assumed basehit at that point. It's extremely rare to have a 9-3 put-out. Most infielders don't cover the bags on balls that leave the infield.

This might be true... I'm curious how the first basemen typically moves on hits to RF. It's not unreasonable to think that their first stop is to go after the batted ball, which would typically move them away from the bag. This would be yet another event in which CPU "misjudgement" would introduce more realism on the field.

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[ChokePro29]

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I got Bryce Harper out once with Jeff Francouer

[allgames]

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Great video. That's exactly what should be possible if the 1st baseman didn't walk away from the bag. Would love to know the real story of why this happens.

Im using TNK Sliders (with some variations) and it seems to do the trick. Last years game I was actually trying to throw the runner out a first from a hit to right field... This year Ive tried to test it out and it seems different, however I did throw one guy out at first from right, he was kinda slow and it was hit pretty hard to my RF... overall, Im satisfied though, it does happen on the rare occasion IRL so its not crazy to see every once in a while...
My suggestion is to tinker with your fielding and base running sliders...

This might be true... I'm curious how the first basemen typically moves on hits to RF. It's not unreasonable to think that their first stop is to go after the batted ball, which would typically move them away from the bag. This would be yet another event in which CPU "misjudgement" would introduce more realism on the field.

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[birthday_massacre]

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I tried to search for this but couldn't find a thread about it.

When the ball is hit hard to right field, the throw comes in and the first baseman will be 5 feet off the bag, but if he was at the bag, the runner would be out. I understand they are doing this to avoid lots of runners being thrown out from right, but why is this happening? Is the ball getting to the right fielder faster than in the real world? Is it the distance from right to first being too close? Is the runner running to slow? It's been an issue for a number of years.

Also why does the first baseman do that same "set" animation when he gets the ball instead of catching it and moving in stride. If nobody is on base, they shouldn't be setting themselves planting both feet like that right?

I did it yesterday with the red sox and Victorino in RF.

[nomo17k]

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Hyun-Jin Ryu's third hit almost became a failed attempt at this play:

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While the pitcher was at bat, RF wasn't playing in it seems. The hit was solid but not particularly hard. Gerardo Parra has a reputation for having a strong arm, yet he needed to set up his momentum properly to initiate the throw to 1B.

Tiny factors accumulate to make this type of play not to happen as often in real life.

[jseward92]

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The computer has tried this on me but I have beat it out everytime I have got the computer a couple times and I try to do it every chance I get just to get that extra out.

[ObiWanShinobi]

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I was playing a game of MLB 13 as the Mets and threw out the runner at first from left field.

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Yes, you read that correctly.