Classic pitchers.

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: Classic pitchers.

Default AS except Strike Freq at 4 and Starter Stamina at 6. I also have my global settings I use.

I cannot pitch with Kyle Lohse to save my life. It's like Michael Pineda from last year. 4 IP, 12 H, 5 ER, 3 BB, 2 K.

I may go to the farm system EARLY.

Ha!

Yeah, me too with Hudson.

I'd call up Tehran but he's been ice blue since from the get-go...

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: Classic pitchers.

So last night I focused on increasing my amount of max effort pitches and the results were pretty good.

A lot of them ended in takes, suprisingly. Considering I've been seeing A TON of first pitch contact lately, this was a pretty pleasant suprise.

I've been having a hard time recently getting good results with my sliders and curves in 2 strike counts though (this is new. I was dominating with them early on). So I'm thinking about changing my approach a bit.

When you guys are going for K's with these pitches (I guess change ups too), how much effort do you guys like to use?

Generally, if I want to pinpoint my change ups, I place it exactly where I want I and use a light tap. If I want to bury it below my ballmarker, I'll max it out. Recently, this hasn't lead to much success because mainly I'm either missing by a long shot or hurling a meatball. This strategy did work for a while for me though.

Curves and sliders seem to generate a bunch of misses in early counts for me. And even though I threw a couple for K's last night, I always love to get advice from everyone on their strategies. Especially with 2 strikes.

[ILiveForThis]

Re: Classic pitchers.

When aiming for strikeouts and am using breaking pitches, I always use MAX effort. Always.

For me, I've seen it increase swings-and-misses K's, along with the backwards variety.

Obviously, confidence plays a huge key. Last night I was playing a classic 1999 matchup and used Mark Gardner of the Giants. I proceeded to establish my 12-6 bender early and got 7 (!!!) strikeouts using just this pitch, having a total of 12 for the outing.

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: Classic pitchers.

When aiming for strikeouts and am using breaking pitches, I always use MAX effort. Always.

For me, I've seen it increase swings-and-misses K's, along with the backwards variety.

Obviously, confidence plays a huge key. Last night I was playing a classic 1999 matchup and used Mark Gardner of the Giants. I proceeded to establish my 12-6 bender early and got 7 (!!!) strikeouts using just this pitch, having a total of 12 for the outing.

Wow.

Where are the places in the zone you place the ballmarker with the 12-6 (could you go into more detail?)? And does the same strategy apply to regular curves?

[torpidbeaver]

Re: Classic pitchers.

I've actually been getting a good number of strikeouts from medium-effort curveballs and fastballs, especially if I've used max-effort pitches to set up a medium or even low-effort pitch. Maybe the CPU "sees" an easier pitch to hit and either:

a. assumes it's a waste pitch, only to watch it go by for a strike

or

b. sees it's an easier pitch to hit and chases it outside the zone

But one thing I've been suddenly noticing is that the CPU's API (that's the word for the yellow batting aimer, right) always looks like they're out there swinging tree trunks and Bam-Bam's club. Because I'm not just seeing HUGE APIs with Adrian Beltre and Victor Martinez, but also with call-up scrubs and lifetime backups.

Is that something to do with the amount of effort I'm putting into pitches? The skill of my pitchers? I know Seattle doesn't have a whole lot of world-beaters behind Felix, but, damn. This is beginning to look like the baseball equivalent of Space Jam, only Michael Jordan and Porky Pig are pitching instead of dunking on super-alien opponents.

[ILiveForThis]

Re: Classic pitchers.

H&V, I would assume. I use it for all breaking pitches, and actually, now thinking about it, I do close to the opposite on heaters.

As for location, on the black and low is what I aim for. But, the high-curve is deadly as well.

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: Classic pitchers.

I've actually been getting a good number of strikeouts from medium-effort curveballs and fastballs, especially if I've used max-effort pitches to set up a medium or even low-effort pitch. Maybe the CPU "sees" an easier pitch to hit and either:

a. assumes it's a waste pitch, only to watch it go by for a strike

or

b. sees it's an easier pitch to hit and chases it outside the zone

But one thing I've been suddenly noticing is that the CPU's API (that's the word for the yellow batting aimer, right) always looks like they're out there swinging tree trunks and Bam-Bam's club. Because I'm not just seeing HUGE APIs with Adrian Beltre and Victor Martinez, but also with call-up scrubs and lifetime backups.

Is that something to do with the amount of effort I'm putting into pitches? The skill of my pitchers? I know Seattle doesn't have a whole lot of world-beaters behind Felix, but, damn. This is beginning to look like the baseball equivalent of Space Jam, only Michael Jordan and Porky Pig are pitching instead of dunking on super-alien opponents.

Thanks for the feedback.

As to the PCI size (Plate Coverage Indicator), the only part that bothers me about it is the amount of foul balls they get, even when the PCI is in an alternate universe in comparison to the ball.

But since fouls per game are a bit lower than in real life as it is (not by much), I feel like it's better to just leave that slider alone.

Lately, I've been getting all "What the...?" on how almost all my check swing 2 strike pitches have been JUST BARELY held back on by the CPU (but I just attribute this to a stretch of pretty rough luck so I hope no one thinks I'm complaining).

Though M.K. Knight went around last night. He was all rung up and I was like, "Yeah. How does the heat feel? That's what you get for keeping the CD room at a constant 43 degrees."

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: Classic pitchers.

H&V, I would assume. I use it for all breaking pitches, and actually, now thinking about it, I do close to the opposite on heaters.

As for location, on the black and low is what I aim for. But, the high-curve is deadly as well.

Opposite on heaters? Meaning light taps?

[ILiveForThis]

Re: Classic pitchers.

Yes, light taps. I set it up with some hard stuff but I've always believed a well-placed fastball is the best pitch in Baseball. Just my beliefs.

[RangersCruz]

Re: Classic pitchers.

i never bother with max effort the pitches are wild half the time

[wisdom less13]

Re: Classic pitchers.

i never bother with max effort the pitches are wild half the time

True, but you have to see where the pitch is missing with max effort. Warm ups are the best way to test your pitches. Throw a fastball with low effort, then throw it with max effort. You'll see them mostly go in different directions. The low effort may go up, but the max may go right. You can use this to your advantage in your gameplan. Whoever asked about the change ups and effort, it depends. If the arrows are close together, I'll throw it a bit harder. If they are spaced out, I'll go less. It's really all about feel for me, though. The other day, I had Harvey all over the joint in warm ups. First inning, two quick outs, then a single. That was followed by a two run HR. He then sat down at least 13 in a row before he walked a guy in the 7th. You have to be able to adapt with Classic. If you don't, you pay. Oh do you pay...

[itbeme23]

Re: Classic pitchers.

I'd like to see if we could get a consensus as to what sliders are working for everybody.

I made the switch from Meter to Classic this season, and for the most part, I'm extremely happy with the results. Classic is the only interface that gives you that "dice roll" effect, and it's the mode that gives the most variety, IMO.

I'm currently using Armor & Swords pitching sliders, and I find that I'm having a lot of success pitching against the CPU. I lead the Majors with the Dodgers in every pitching category, except for strikeouts (I believe I'm 10th). I currently have an ERA just above 2, so the games are starting to get a bit stale for my liking. I've even raised the difficulty to HOF, and the only thing I've noticed is an increase in the CPU's hit totals, but still not seeing it reflected in runs scored.

I'm curious to know if anybody could point me in the right direction on what to tweak. Is it wise to lower Pitch Control and Consistency down a click or two???

Any feedback would be appreciated.

[RangersCruz]

Re: Classic pitchers.

I'd like to see if we could get a consensus as to what sliders are working for everybody.

I made the switch from Meter to Classic this season, and for the most part, I'm extremely happy with the results. Classic is the only interface that gives you that "dice roll" effect, and it's the mode that gives the most variety, IMO.

I'm currently using Armor & Swords pitching sliders, and I find that I'm having a lot of success pitching against the CPU. I lead the Majors with the Dodgers in every pitching category, except for strikeouts (I believe I'm 10th). I currently have an ERA just above 2, so the games are starting to get a bit stale for my liking. I've even raised the difficulty to HOF, and the only thing I've noticed is an increase in the CPU's hit totals, but still not seeing it reflected in runs scored.

I'm curious to know if anybody could point me in the right direction on what to tweak. Is it wise to lower Pitch Control and Consistency down a click or two???

Any feedback would be appreciated.

Well you can try IL4T's

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ntic-il4t.html

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: Classic pitchers.

I'm on AS. Auto Field/Auto Throw/Broadcast view/Ballmarker ON

All Default, except:

Human Starter Stamina 6
CPU Starter Stamina 6
CPU Strike Frequency 4
Pitch Speed 6
SB Frequency 6

And I originally had Fielding Errors at 6, but went back to Default about 10 games ago.

I'm 49 games in, and will post my 50 game stats within the next day or two for those interested.

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: Classic pitchers.

Well you can try IL4T's

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ntic-il4t.html

Itbeme23, essentially IL4T and I use the same sliders, minus Reliever Stamina and some Global tweaks.