No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

[geisterhome]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

Just a question, does the increasing the Solid Hits Slider also increase the amount of doubles and triples?

[Bobhead]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

Just a question, does the increasing the Solid Hits Slider also increase the amount of doubles and triples?

Sometimes. It depends on your current production levels (and on current sliders and difficulty level)

If you're already getting strong hits in the gap and down the line... If you're already getting a 20% or more in Line Drive %... Solid Hits wouldn't really help too much, (but it would still help). In this case, Power would help more than anything.

If you're having problems even getting line drives or hard fly balls, then Solid Hits would definitely help a lot.

[geisterhome]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

Sometimes. It depends on your current production levels (and on current sliders and difficulty level)

If you're already getting strong hits in the gap and down the line... If you're already getting a 20% or more in Line Drive %... Solid Hits wouldn't really help too much, (but it would still help). In this case, Power would help more than anything.

If you're having problems even getting line drives or hard fly balls, then Solid Hits would definitely help a lot.

Thanks for elaborating, makes sense!
So increasing the solid hits slider not only makes singles out of pop ups and weak ground balls but also line drives and strong hits out of some the singles I'm hitting.
Correct?

[G3no_11]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

Thanks for elaborating, makes sense!
So increasing the solid hits slider not only makes singles out of pop ups and weak ground balls but also line drives and strong hits out of some the singles I'm hitting.
Correct?

Yeah, with solid hits just think about the sound off the bat when you really connect on a pitch. If you raise solid hits, you will get more solid contact and give you faster ground balls, more line drives, and less weak pop ups and choppers.

I've found that putting solid hits up to 6 (+1) and lowering power to 4 (-1) you get pretty good results. You still get some good hits instead of a ton of choppers and pop ups, but you aren't going to have an unrealistic amount of homers.

[G3no_11]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

no.

my 2 cents: messing with 4-5 different sliders to try to correct one thing is probably not a sound method because you're unbalancing other aspects of the game and only bandaging the perceived problem, I still say there isn't one, but whatever..

I am going to politely disagree. My 2 cents are the CPU outfielders act like super humans at times on stock sliders. Making perfect jumps, great speed, and everyone has a Vlad Guerrero arm. Not even just the outfielders, I feel like the infielders are very similar.

So by changing the sliders, you're right I am bandaging the problem, but I have not found any ill effects from anything that I have changed. It seems to have only made the CPU more human, instead of perfect players.

They already make perfect reads on balls off the wall, they always know the 100% correct place to throw the ball, and they always take the perfect route to the ball.

By changing the sliders, the defense in general plays much more realistic. But that is just my opinion.

[Dwenny]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

I may have to consider making some of the slider changes suggested here. Most of my games are played at Fenway and I'm finding that hits grounding to the left field corner off the wall are 90% singles instead of doubles. The CPU fielders makes the play perfectly almost all the time. Coupled with the baserunner slowdown rounding bases, doubles I had in last years' game have been reduced to singles or an out at second. I know if you hit the wall with a hard line drive, it sometimes leads you to being thrown out at second. But this year, it is seems that you can only settle for singles in the left field corner. In fact, I've been thrown out about 25% on wall balls in left center. It should be about 10% if not 5%. I also feel that the game's perspective outfield distance in left and left center might be a little off. I really like the game but I am glad someone else noticed the same problems in the other parks as well.

[Bobhead]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

Thanks for elaborating, makes sense!
So increasing the solid hits slider not only makes singles out of pop ups and weak ground balls but also line drives and strong hits out of some the singles I'm hitting.
Correct?

Yes. It increases the leeway you have between bad contact and good contact... but it doesn't add much in the way of power... so if you're already making good contact, the effects will be minimal.

Yeah, with solid hits just think about the sound off the bat when you really connect on a pitch. If you raise solid hits, you will get more solid contact and give you faster ground balls, more line drives, and less weak pop ups and choppers.

I've found that putting solid hits up to 6 (+1) and lowering power to 4 (-1) you get pretty good results. You still get some good hits instead of a ton of choppers and pop ups, but you aren't going to have an unrealistic amount of homers.

That's a good way to look at it also. Solid Hits makes the noise louder, lol.

And I agree and run the exact same changes. Been doing so for a while now. Granted I play on Hall of Fame and things change with difficulty level.

[Thomas7]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

Phoenixsmgs have an in depth slider description on what each item means. Google it, very helpful. Also Bobhead is an expert in this field. You getting great advice, you have to love this site. Solid hits will give you more hard hits on balls that would have been weak hits. But there is a drawback, it will alert the cpu better. Power is for home runs and may help a little in line drives but not much. Contact is the KEY to most hitting problems. Just adding my 2 cents.G3no-11 6 4 is perfect but you got to use what work for you. sliders take at least 20 games or more b4 you know if they work.
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[HechticSooner]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

I'm not seeing as much problems with 2bs in the corners but the fact that I get more triples in the left-center alley then the rf corner is problematic

[vinny_pizza]

I see plenty of doubles down the lines with TNK's slioders using the Royals. Even with players who have speed in the 60's.

Me too, TNK's set seems to have it pretty good. I had a video of Jeter lacing a double to the left field corner as an example but never got to upload it. I see more issues with the slowdown logic around third, but that rant is another thread!

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[moemoe24]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

But are you seeing them down the lines?

I too see plenty of gap doubles/triples but hits down the line are pretty much exclusively singles.

IMO, the problem with balls hit down the line, like the hard ground balls, the issue seems to be that the ball almost comes to a stop in the outfield instead of rolling all the way into the corner. In real life a hard ground ball or line drive easily gets to the wall for several reasons...1. A ball hit down the line is almost always a bullet...if it were not the throw baseman would be able to at least get a glove on the ball. 2. The grass in the outfields is cut down like a fairway on a golf course so of course the lower the grass the further the ball will roll.

So since I know this is a problem I raise speed to no lower than 55 for every player on my team. This way I don't get thrown out on hits that should be routine doubles.

[kehlis]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

IMO, the problem with balls hit down the line, like the hard ground balls, the issue seems to be that the ball almost comes to a stop in the outfield instead of rolling all the way into the corner. In real life a hard ground ball or line drive easily gets to the wall for several reasons...1. A ball hit down the line is almost always a bullet...if it were not the throw baseman would be able to at least get a glove on the ball. 2. The grass in the outfields is cut down like a fairway on a golf course so of course the lower the grass the further the ball will roll.

So since I know this is a problem I raise speed to no lower than 55 for every player on my team. This way I don't get thrown out on hits that should be routine doubles.

Spot on.

The ball seems to die once it gets to the outfield.

The issue for me is other than doing what you did (which I don't feel like doing) I can't find a fix that doesn't adversely affect other aspects of the game.

[railsldr]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

I feel like there is something with the physics off the bat. I am not having issues with extra base hits but my issue is scoring runners from second with a single. Even my fastest players have plays at the plate and more often than not my slower players have to stop at 3rd. I know that happens plenty in real life but players score from second more than they have to stop in the real world.

[G3no_11]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

I feel like there is something with the physics off the bat. I am not having issues with extra base hits but my issue is scoring runners from second with a single. Even my fastest players have plays at the plate and more often than not my slower players have to stop at 3rd. I know that happens plenty in real life but players score from second more than they have to stop in the real world.

I would suggest turning down the fielding sliders a bit. It really helps with game play in my opinion.

Personally I don't see any adverse effects of changing the sliders. Overall fielding in this game is too good so changing the sliders is only going to make the defense play more realistic. For BOTH infield and outfield.

Just my 2 cents.

[Bunselpower32]

Re: No doubles in the corners, no triples at all

TNK's realism sliders have a nice balance. I can score on singles unless its hit hard, and I can drive balls into the corner and depending how hard they're hit and the park they are hit in, usually get a double. I used Grandal the other day in Busch, and he smashed one into the corner, and the LF played it great, and he just cut down Grandal. Barely.