Was this years game a disappointment for anyone else?

[KBLover]

Re: Was this years game a disappointment for anyone else?

Heck I have had a long time beef with the fielding mechanics.....that is why I auto field but handle all the throwing.

I almost can't play modern baseball games any other way.

Ever since MVP05 I play fielding like this.


As for the topic question - no, I'm not disappointed, but then again I only have 06 and 09 previously (loved/still love both). Though I see some of issues talked about (especially RTTS infielders as a pitcher...drives me up a wall - I presume it's an "increase the challenge" thing).

[bronxbombers21325]

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I hadn't paid any attention to the pitcher records until reading it on here, looked what I had through my month and a half I have played. The highest number of wins by a starting pitcher is 5.(not unrealistic for May, but idealy you have 5 or 6 players with that total, there is only 1) And a lot of relief pitchers have more wins than the starters. Verlander, King Felix, and Yu Darvish are all 1-4 with ERA's in the 5's. Also something else I noticed, the majority of teams..good teams as well, are barely above, or below .500 at home, but have outstanding numbers on the road. The Red Sox, Yankees, Rangers, Reds, and Giants all have losing records at home, but are 5 or 6 games above 500 on the road. That needs to be reversed. Sometimes I wonder if they even tested this game before it came out.

[MrGrease]

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Switch to button accuracy and the problem is non existent.
I've used analog throwing since it was introduced but the double play over the head "bug" was killing me so I tried button accuracy and it was gone.

But besides that I prefer button acuracy now! It feels more right or something. It really acts the way it should

^^^THIS^^^ Button accuracy is the best, "funnest" way to throw the ball.

[jbuc14]

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One little thing I don't like in this game is when a player goes to a different team, their face just becomes a generic one. I would much prefer them to keep the same player icon no matter what team they play for.

[Culture Rot]

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its an improved game but still disappointing. mlb the show doesnt take big steps, theyve rested on their laurels for about 2 or 3 years now.

[Bobhead]

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One little thing I don't like in this game is when a player goes to a different team, their face just becomes a generic one. I would much prefer them to keep the same player icon no matter what team they play for.

You know, sometimes I really feel for game developers... They just can't win, ever.

[Armor and Sword]

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Some of the posts in this thread are flat out absurd.

Ridiculous to be frank.

It's one thing to express some concerns and quirks in the game....but really resting on their laurels? Unplayable? Broken? Words I would never use to describe SCEA and The Show.

Wrong forum...wrong game.

As far as sports games they have created a beautiful game full of passion and love for the respective sport it represents.

We are at the end of this gen's cycle. I think we can all see that The Show 2009 was a ground breaking game, I personally skipped 10.

11 was a huge upgrade on 2009 IMO.

12 was another upgrade from 11 with a lot of little things and one major thing with true ball physics.

13 really built off of 12 with ball physics 2.0 and wow....it is awesome. As a true baseball junkie who appreciates all the little nuances of the game....and plays well over a 100 games per season (sometimes 162 plus post season games) I really can appreciate the slight and obviously overlooked upgrade of the True Ball Physics 2.0. Hitting has never been this realistic for a baseball game......EVER!!!!!

It seems no matter what Dev's do they can't win.

For years all the bitching and moaning and groaning and annual "I can't hit" threads. My god.....it was disgusting.

So they finally open the timing window....ever so slightly. And that is all they did make no mistake. And now....hitting sucks, the game is "floaty" (the new buzz word to describe 13). I mean on 12 I had to use pitching speed at 1....on 13 I can keep it at 5.....totally feels like the same game to me. And I love the fact i am able to pull the ball much better with true pull hitters. Another small and overlooked upgrade BTW.

Give me a break.

God bless you if you feel that way....keep playing 12 (hell I still play 12 too awesome game with awesome rosters) Hell I still have my 87 franchise going on 11. All three are awesome games....highly playable and have aged beautifully.

But 13 is the pinnacle of this gen. The new sleek presentation swipes, score bug, so many little nuances that have made the presentation (save for commentary we all know it has not changed and I don't care as I rather see the CPU used for better animations and ball physics...which they absolutely upgraded for 13) even better than 12. They even brought back batter rituals stepping into the box back which was removed for 12.

For franchise players.....new scouting and training. MUCH BETTER.

This game pushes the PS3 to it's limit. I am thrilled they did upgrade the game again for 13. This is not a roster update at all.

But like I said....I can understand if some like 12 better. I can reasonably understand that......12 is an amazing game. I remember people bashing 12 and saying 11 was better......how predictable. But the bashing, and down right insulting nature of some of the posts I have read about 13?

Absurd, uncalled for and downright offensive for a sports game of this caliber.

Shame on some of you.

Off my soap box and back to fully enjoying the best sports game ever made.

Bar none.

[lhslancers]

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I think the hitting is harder this year than ever and I play all the others on pitch speed 6. I am trying hard to like this year's game. Aside from turning down the timing slider what else can I do to get the hitting to play more like 11 and 12?

[G3no_11]

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'13 is a great game. My only issue is that they made quite a few changes, both major and minor, to aspects of the game that didn't need to be changed at all.

I get that this forum is often littered with complaints and whacky suggestions and the devs do a great job of trying to make everyone happy... but sometimes they need to just stick with what they already have. Change isn't always a good thing and this is just an example of that.

'12 with '13's ball physics would be twice as good of a game as '13 itself.

Really though.. I wish they would've waited to make all of these changes for when The Show hit the PS4. Then there would be more options for all of the changes and would be able to please everyone. Instead they basically just listened to all of the complainers and really hurt the game for the loyals.

I do love '13... but there are a few things that are very disappointing about it.

[Bobhead]

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I think the hitting is harder this year than ever and I play all the others on pitch speed 6. I am trying hard to like this year's game. Aside from turning down the timing slider what else can I do to get the hitting to play more like 11 and 12?

Lowering the Contact slider helped for me also. You can also try jacking up the Solid Hits slider and lowering the Power slider 1 or 2 points (to keep home runs at bay with the jacked up SH slider).

Other than that there isn't really much you can do, on the slider end.. I've been really hesitant to play serious games with Timing at 0, but I tried a game this evening and the game just felt so much better.

Decreasing Contact and decreasing Timing are kinda the same thing here, when it comes to this particular issue of floatiness. Pick your poison and adapt is all I can say.

The last theory I have, though I have literally not tried it at all, not even testing... haven't gotten around to it... is to play with the CPU pitch control slider. I'm thinking maybe this floatiness is tied to the quality of pitching you receive. Again, have not tried it out, at all. But you can try it at 0 and at 10, and see if either option helps.

[Bobhead]

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So they finally open the timing window....ever so slightly. And that is all they did make no mistake. And now....hitting sucks, the game is "floaty" (the new buzz word to describe 13). I mean on 12 I had to use pitching speed at 1....on 13 I can keep it at 5.....totally feels like the same game to me. And I love the fact i am able to pull the ball much better with true pull hitters. Another small and overlooked upgrade BTW.

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I don't know man. I totally get where you are coming from, and SCEA still has 100% of my respect, but there are some legitimate issues with the hitting this year.

Yes some advancements were also made, and I too enjoy the new pull... thing... but that doesn't mean "everyone" is delusional.

[55]

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This year's game was absolutely a disappointment to me. So much so, that SCEA didn't get my money for the first time ever. I have five issues with this game that I have reiterated over the years and they still haven't addressed a single one of them. Until they address said issues, no more $$$ from me.

[Stolm]

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So they finally open the timing window....ever so slightly. And that is all they did make no mistake. And now....hitting sucks, the game is "floaty" (the new buzz word to describe 13). I mean on 12 I had to use pitching speed at 1....on 13 I can keep it at 5.....totally feels like the same game to me. And I love the fact i am able to pull the ball much better with true pull hitters. Another small and overlooked upgrade BTW.

That is not all they did.

Yes the timing window has been opened, in doing so they introduced a kind of floaty( yes call it a "buzz word" or whatever you want to try to diminish it, but it's the first thing I noticed when I started playing and so did a lot of people who are sensitive to it) delayed look to how pitches are perceived coming in. A lot of that can be lessened by turning Human Timing all the way to zero, thus closing the timing window, but it's never fully gone.

Not sure if this was done to combat the visual lag many complain about on certain TV's, or just make hitting easier, but it's worse then I could ever have imagined when they announced it.

They also have drastically increased the speed at which your bat goes through the zone this year. The distance of the ball from the plate and when you need to start your swing is a six to eight foot difference at times compared to last year.

Pitch speeds seemed to have been tinkered with as well. Pitch speed at default does not feel like the default of last year. It seems a lot slower. How much slower is hard to tell. With the faster swing speed and timing window, its not easy to determine.

Another change(and I do actually like this change, but it is a change nonetheless) is the way swinging at pitches towards the outside of the plate work. Last year it was easier to pull pitches away because there was a longer wait time before they passed the plate.(That is if you were facing a pitcher with the same handedness as yourself) This year they seem to have implemented something that automatically try's to push your hit opposite field if you have anything other than early timing on a pitch away.

The other thing I do like is pulling pitches on the inner half feels great this year, last year it was almost impossible to do so with default settings and zone plus analog.

I think a lot of the difficulty most people found in last years game could have been remedied by just changing the swing speed and swing speed alone, but they have tinkered with so many different aspects of hitting it's shocking, and does not feel like the same game. Sure it looks the same, but it doesn't play like it.

Like I said earlier, they seem to have fallen into the trap of catering to those who complained about the difficulty instead of introducing a better tutorial or practice system, and in doing so destroyed what they had, which was a very smooth and realistic batting experience. And now we are left with a very hand holdy hitting system with lots of behind the scenes simulation and manipulation.

[Armor and Sword]

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That is not all they did.

Yes the timing window has been opened, in doing so they introduced a kind of floaty( yes call it a "buzz word" or whatever you want to try to diminish it, but it's the first thing I noticed when I started playing and so did a lot of people who are sensitive to it) delayed look to how pitches are perceived coming in. A lot of that can be lessened by turning Human Timing all the way to zero, thus closing the timing window, but it's never fully gone.

Not sure if this was done to combat the visual lag many complain about on certain TV's, or just make hitting easier, but it's worse then I could ever have imagined when they announced it.


They also have drastically increased the speed at which your bat goes through the zone this year. The distance of the ball from the plate and when you need to start your swing is a six to eight foot difference at times compared to last year.

Pitch speeds seemed to have been tinkered with as well. Pitch speed at default does not feel like the default of last year. It seems a lot slower. How much slower is hard to tell. With the faster swing speed and timing window, its not easy to determine.

Another change(and I do actually like this change, but it is a change nonetheless) is the way swinging at pitches towards the outside of the plate work. Last year it was easier to pull pitches away because there was a longer wait time before they passed the plate.(That is if you were facing a pitcher with the same handedness as yourself) This year they seem to have implemented something that automatically try's to push your hit opposite field if you have anything other than early timing on a pitch away.

The other thing I do like is pulling pitches on the inner half feels great this year, last year it was almost impossible to do so with default settings and zone plus analog.

I think a lot of the difficulty most people found in last years game could have been remedied by just changing the swing speed and swing speed alone, but they have tinkered with so many different aspects of hitting it's shocking, and does not feel like the same game. Sure it looks the same, but it doesn't play like it.

Like I said earlier, they seem to have fallen into the trap of catering to those who complained about the difficulty instead of introducing a better tutorial or practice system, and in doing so destroyed what they had, which was a very smooth and realistic batting experience. And now we are left with a very hand holdy hitting system with lots of behind the scenes simulation and manipulation.

Some valid points. Pitch speed at default this year feels like close to zero last year. Which is why I have not moved it at all. I played with it between 0-3 on 12. I do agree that the timing is delayed compared to the last year (and 11 for that matter). I noticed that right away....but I practiced and adjusted. Flaoty is not a word I would use to describe it though.....I would just say....slower. Change Ups are the most challenging pitch to hit this year. No question. I have not had any issues hitting others though. But change ups can really cause me some fits sometimes. Especially the ones that hit the lower half of the zone..lot's of borderline pitches this year in that regard.

My main point is I am hitting just fine after adjusting to this new "timing window" and am enjoying hitting as much as I did last year. I love the game enough to adapt to the change.

I totally agree they caved on the complaints. But other than the timing window change which is the bane of many complaints about the game...they really did an outstanding job on so many other things. Visually the game has never looked better nor played smoother IMO.

I have never ever seen the lag some have complained about, or pitch delay or whatever it is. Never. I guess I am lucky or because I play on a 32 inch LCD in my den I have not had those types of issues.

I was more or less venting though at the seething comments I have seen which to me are in such bad form on a game of this quality.

[TripleCrown]

Change Ups are the most challenging pitch to hit this year. No question. I have not had any issues hitting others though. But change ups can really cause me some fits sometimes. Especially the ones that hit the lower half of the zone..lot's of borderline pitches this year in that regard.

And it's fabulous that way. A well placed good change up is the most difficult pitch to hit, mostly when setup with a few fastball before.

When I'm caught of balance with a good change up I can't avoid a little smile thinking "you got me pitcher".

SCEA nailed it down this year. Love it .