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  • CaseIH
    MVP
    • Sep 2013
    • 3945

    #31
    Re: 2014 MLB Season Sim With MLB 14 The Show

    LMBO at the Reds simulation record and the Cubs not finishing in the cellar, not a chance that happens this year. Im not sure how our season will end up for sure, as we have been hit with the injury bug this spring, but 1 thing is for certain and thats the Cubs will be in the cellar
    Everyone who exalts themselves will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted- Luke14-11

    Favorite teams:
    MLB- Reds/ and whoever is playing the Cubs
    NBA- Pacers
    NFL- Dolphins & Colts

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    • sroz39
      The Man!
      • Apr 2006
      • 2802

      #32
      Re: 2014 MLB Season Sim With MLB 14 The Show

      Originally posted by My993C2
      I would not read too much into one simulation sample in terms of thinking who will do good with the default rosters and who will not. One really needs to run the 2014 season simulation many many many times over and over again and take the aggregate results before one can assume that this team or that team will do good or bad.

      Then again prior to the start of the 2013 real world season, the real world Toronto media was hyping up the 2013 Blue Jays as one of the greatest teams ever assembled and a sure bet to win the World Series that year. So I guess all it took was one pass at a virtual simulated season on MLB 14 The Show for the Toronto media to realize it's prediction, one year late and in the virtual world, not the real world.

      PS: I have a modified MLB 13 OSFM roster set with 2014 player retirements/movements ready to run in another year in MLB 13 (I am still on the fence as to whether or not I will be picking up MLB 14 or playing another year in MLB 13) and the Blue Jays are one of the top ranked teams in this modified roster set. Problem is, during Spring Training which is coming to an end in the next few days (mostly simulated games though some games were played CPU vs CPU to ensure slider settings and the roster set were compatible), the Red Sox are kicking butt for the AL East teams while the Blue Jays have a losing record. Of course it is Spring Training ... you know practice ... and one only needs to ask Alan Iverson what he thinks about practice.
      Toronto media...American media...Vegas (8-1 to win the World Series)...everyone was jumping on the bandwagon. Though with the rotation this year, winning the division like the game predicted seems a bit of a stretch.

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      • bronxbombers21325
        MVP
        • Mar 2012
        • 3058

        #33
        Re: 2014 MLB Season Sim With MLB 14 The Show

        Originally posted by Knight165
        I seem to remember Boston coming out on top in the sims last year.
        Lot's of people ?????? then as well!

        M.K.
        Knight165
        Maybe Ramone is atually psychic?

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        • Brandwin
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2002
          • 30621

          #34
          So we can play Online Franchise with just one user?

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          • Knight165
            *ll St*r
            • Feb 2003
            • 24964

            #35
            Re: 2014 MLB Season Sim With MLB 14 The Show

            Originally posted by DookieMowf
            So we can play Online Franchise with just one user?
            Yes.

            M.K.
            Knight165
            All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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            • seasprite
              Phenom
              • Jul 2008
              • 8984

              #36
              Re: 2014 MLB Season Sim With MLB 14 The Show

              Originally posted by DookieMowf
              So we can play Online Franchise with just one user?
              Yes, I believe this was recently confirmed and clarified by Ramone






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              • Double Deuce
                Rookie
                • Oct 2007
                • 225

                #37
                It looks like Closer usage/stamina may still be a problem. 50+ saves from the top closers in both leagues isn't very realistic, unless it was a fluke. But based on last year, I imagine it isn't. Closers always seem to be used too much in franchise. I'd like to see some logic to give closers more rest so they don't pitch day after day after day. Generally in real life, a team will have one closer with saves in the high 30s to mid 40s (assuming the closer stays healthy throughout the year), and one or two other guys with a handful. But The Show seems to always have the closer with high 40s or into the 50s, and very few saves from other relievers.

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                • philipahoward2
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 39

                  #38
                  Re: 2014 MLB Season Sim With MLB 14 The Show

                  Originally posted by Double Deuce
                  It looks like Closer usage/stamina may still be a problem. 50+ saves from the top closers in both leagues isn't very realistic, unless it was a fluke. But based on last year, I imagine it isn't. Closers always seem to be used too much in franchise. I'd like to see some logic to give closers more rest so they don't pitch day after day after day. Generally in real life, a team will have one closer with saves in the high 30s to mid 40s (assuming the closer stays healthy throughout the year), and one or two other guys with a handful. But The Show seems to always have the closer with high 40s or into the 50s, and very few saves from other relievers.

                  At the same time, closers in The Show always seem to have far too few innings. I haven't played in several months, but from what I remember they usually have fewer innings than saves, which I think is a much bigger problem than closers having too many saves. I wish there was a better way to manage your bullpen in franchise while simulating. Like setting rules saying I don't want this pitcher to pitch with less than 70% energy (or at least put him on the bottom of the list for pitchers to come in). What would be really cool is if there was AI that learns how you manage your team (lineups, pinch hitters, double switches, how many pitches your SP goes and how you use your pen) when you actually play games. Then if you want to sim a few weeks it will manage your team more like you do. Of course the more games you play the better it would mimic your play style. I have absolutely no idea how realistic this is, but it would be damn cool.

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                  • Double Deuce
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 225

                    #39
                    Originally posted by philipahoward2
                    At the same time, closers in The Show always seem to have far too few innings. I haven't played in several months, but from what I remember they usually have fewer innings than saves, which I think is a much bigger problem than closers having too many saves. I wish there was a better way to manage your bullpen in franchise while simulating. Like setting rules saying I don't want this pitcher to pitch with less than 70% energy (or at least put him on the bottom of the list for pitchers to come in). What would be really cool is if there was AI that learns how you manage your team (lineups, pinch hitters, double switches, how many pitches your SP goes and how you use your pen) when you actually play games. Then if you want to sim a few weeks it will manage your team more like you do. Of course the more games you play the better it would mimic your play style. I have absolutely no idea how realistic this is, but it would be damn cool.
                    That'd be cool. I'd also like to see the AI teams remove closers who are struggling, at least for short periods of time until they get their groove back. Real-life teams do this pretty often, especially for less-established closers. But in The Show, it's like if you are tagged as a closer, you're the one closing, even if your ERA is terrible and the pen has plenty of other viable options. I'd like to see this improved in the next few years.

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                    • tbook24
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 93

                      #40
                      finally the A's actually won the division in the SIM. lol after 2 seasons of finishng 3rd

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                      • nomo17k
                        Permanently Banned
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 5735

                        #41
                        Re: 2014 MLB Season Sim With MLB 14 The Show

                        Originally posted by Double Deuce
                        It looks like Closer usage/stamina may still be a problem. 50+ saves from the top closers in both leagues isn't very realistic, unless it was a fluke. But based on last year, I imagine it isn't. Closers always seem to be used too much in franchise. I'd like to see some logic to give closers more rest so they don't pitch day after day after day. Generally in real life, a team will have one closer with saves in the high 30s to mid 40s (assuming the closer stays healthy throughout the year), and one or two other guys with a handful. But The Show seems to always have the closer with high 40s or into the 50s, and very few saves from other relievers.
                        Originally posted by philipahoward2
                        At the same time, closers in The Show always seem to have far too few innings. I haven't played in several months, but from what I remember they usually have fewer innings than saves, which I think is a much bigger problem than closers having too many saves. I wish there was a better way to manage your bullpen in franchise while simulating. Like setting rules saying I don't want this pitcher to pitch with less than 70% energy (or at least put him on the bottom of the list for pitchers to come in). What would be really cool is if there was AI that learns how you manage your team (lineups, pinch hitters, double switches, how many pitches your SP goes and how you use your pen) when you actually play games. Then if you want to sim a few weeks it will manage your team more like you do. Of course the more games you play the better it would mimic your play style. I have absolutely no idea how realistic this is, but it would be damn cool.
                        I think the pitcher hook logic is still too simplistic. (Not sure if this has been worked on for MLB 14.)

                        The AI doesn't really try to use platoon advantage the way real-life managers often do. Many at least consider bringing in their closer in the 8th in a tight ballgame, which doesn't really happen in The Show.

                        Variable/customizable manager tendency for AI controlled team would be nice.
                        The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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                        • BrianU
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 1565

                          #42
                          Re: 2014 MLB Season Sim With MLB 14 The Show

                          Originally posted by nomo17k
                          I think the pitcher hook logic is still too simplistic. (Not sure if this has been worked on for MLB 14.)

                          The AI doesn't really try to use platoon advantage the way real-life managers often do. Many at least consider bringing in their closer in the 8th in a tight ballgame, which doesn't really happen in The Show.

                          Variable/customizable manager tendency for AI controlled team would be nice.
                          That is my biggest beef with the AI, not using proper lefty righty pitching matchups when subbing. I've thought about zeroing the CPU Manager Hook slider and making pitching changes during the game for them.

                          Takes much of the realism out of the game when you see a lefty come in to face a righty in a close one. It stands out because of how much the game does right. Just reading SCEA_Brian comment on the way hitting and pitching is programmed then you have this glaring lack of attention. I don't see it improving with next gen because I don't believe more RAM or CPU speed is needed for it it would seem to be a low resource issue.

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                          • kehlis
                            Moderator
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 27738

                            #43
                            Re: 2014 MLB Season Sim With MLB 14 The Show

                            Not to be too negative but there could be a pretty big issue with the A's road alternate unis.

                            I think it's tied to them adding the new Green alternate which is supposed to be the away alternate yet the show has it as the home jersey, that isn't the problem though.

                            If you look at the screens of the A's at Miami they are wearing their alternate yellow but with the home white pants and both teams are wearing home white pants in all the screens.


                            Won't affect me since I play as the A's and can change it but that could get annoying to people who have to play the A's at home.
                            Last edited by kehlis; 03-30-2014, 03:07 PM.

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                            • Shaffer26
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 1236

                              #44
                              Re: 2014 MLB Season Sim With MLB 14 The Show

                              Originally posted by kehlis
                              Not to be too negative but there could be a pretty big issue with the A's road alternate unis.

                              I think it's tied to them adding the new Green alternate which is supposed to be the away alternate yet the show has it as the home jersey, that isn't the problem though.

                              If you look at the screens of the A's at Miami they are wearing their alternate yellow but with the home white pants and both teams are wearing home white pants in all the screens.


                              Won't affect me since I play as the A's and can change it but that could get annoying to people who have to play the A's at home.
                              You could always just change the jerseys before the game, no?

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                              • ShowTyme15
                                LADetermined
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 11853

                                #45
                                Re: 2014 MLB Season Sim With MLB 14 The Show

                                Originally posted by Shaffer26
                                You could always just change the jerseys before the game, no?
                                Yes you can.

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