Uniform Errors/Omissions

[cherman24]

Is there an official thread for uniform errors/omissions like people create for the other sports? I was just watching the vids of the uniforms in the game and I see a bunch of errors/omissions.


Now before this thread gets locked or it becomes a battle between the style guide police vs. the 2K people or "it can only have x slots", let me just say/ask a few things.


1. Will PS4 be restricted to the same amount of uniforms since there is cross save between Vita?
2. This thread or an official one is just meant to list errors and not create a fight.


For instance:
The TB Rays have the Sunday home Columbia blue jersey omitted again. In the "slot" is the fake 70's throwback which is worn once per year. I'd rather have the Sunday jersey take up that slot...especially since the fauxback hat is all light blue again instead of having a cut out first light blue panel like the 70s Padres. Now this is where I call BS on the style guide argument. There is no way the MLB puts that hat in their style guide (just like there is no way they put a road blue Cubs jersey with a front number).


I'm a bonafide uniform nerd/jersey collector. If anyone wants me to watch the vids again, I can make a list. Again, this isn't meant to cause an argument, just meant to list out errors.

[SilverBullet1929]

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I thought about this, and if it picks up I can contribute but I really thought it was gonna open a giant can of worms. Good luck

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[Teigh Cubs Teigh]

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1. Will PS4 be restricted to the same amount of uniforms since there is cross save between Vita?

Take this with a grain of salt because I don't know what they have planned or how such things work at all, but I do not see cross save as a reason to have different uniforms.

Cross save simply takes the data about rosters and stats and standings and date and saves them in a manner which is accessible across two or more platforms. It would have nothing to do with what jerseys are worn once you jump into a particular save.

Cross play would be a different story, but cross save should not limit this.

It really depends on what resources they had to dedicate to more slots and whether they felt those resources could be better spent elsewhere. I would imagine that they could expand the options here with the power of the PS4, but maybe they thought that the time spent doing that could be used to polish up some other feature or asset to improve the overall quality of the PS4 version beyond what would be accomplished with additional uniform slots.

I guess we'll see, but I don't think it can be ruled out yet just as I don't think it can be expected either.

[merchant1874]

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I have a couple of errors that are NOT style guide related and are either a mistake or hardware/template limitations.

Permanent Sleeve patches (A's elephant, chief wahoo etc) are way too small a scale compared to real life. I'd even say cap logos are slightly on the small side.

Another error/limitation is the piping on the A's gold alternate is way too thin/ narrow compared to real life. Unfortunately I can't find a show pic of the jersey but once I get the game I will post a comparison up.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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The TB Rays have the Sunday home Columbia blue jersey omitted again. In the "slot" is the fake 70's throwback which is worn once per year. I'd rather have the Sunday jersey take up that slot...especially since the fauxback hat is all light blue again instead of having a cut out first light blue panel like the 70s Padres. Now this is where I call BS on the style guide argument. There is no way the MLB puts that hat in their style guide (just like there is no way they put a road blue Cubs jersey with a front number).

I can see the Cubs jersey & Rays cap being in the style guide because just because somethings IN the style guide doesn't mean a team is wearing it on the field.

[dran1984]

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I can see the Cubs jersey & Rays cap being in the style guide because just because somethings IN the style guide doesn't mean a team is wearing it on the field.

However the Rockies Black Alt...they didnt wear it last year..but I dont see how they would have it correct in the past and then randomly update the style guide with purple sleeves that they wore one time WAY back in the past.

[GruffyMcGuiness]

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Wait, the rays don't have their light blue jerseys on the game?!


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[Kccitystar]

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Astros Road alternates are the same as the warmup jerseys

[cherman24]

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Wait, the rays don't have their light blue jerseys on the game?!


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According to the vids, they are NOT in for the second straight year. The Rays have


New BP, Both BP hats, Home, Road, Navy Alt, Fauxbacks (with wrong hat), and two sets of Devil Rays unis (which are the same except for the alt hat)

[GruffyMcGuiness]

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According to the vids, they are NOT in for the second straight year.

that's insane. I think they got them when the Braves got the new cream uniforms and they're in. So much for using TB in my OF


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[ShowTyme15]

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Astros Road alternates are the same as the warmup jerseys

That's not an error. See here.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10666905/uni-watch-see-all-changes-baseball-season

[Kccitystar]

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That's not an error. See here.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10...aseball-season

I did not know this.

Great find, thanks!

[SilverBullet1929]

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However the Rockies Black Alt...they didnt wear it last year..but I dont see how they would have it correct in the past and then randomly update the style guide with purple sleeves that they wore one time WAY back in the past.

See this is something I've been saying forever. I understand the style guide has to be strictly adhered to but how in tarnations does a jersey go from correct in the guide to wrong? Maybe it was wrong from the start or wasn't in from the start but once it's right how does it possibly go backwards? Who updates the guide and goes well let's change this to something completely wrong? Case in point the Rockies sleeves, the Rays light blues.

Also , wouldn't the style guide also insist that color shades are done right? The Brewers home alternate and Jays blue being wrong seems like something that should be fixed because there's no way that's adhering to the guide. Whoever is supposed to make sure SCEA adheres to the guide, shouldn't they have insisted on correcting those colors?

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[SilverBullet1929]

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Well if this thread is happening let me go ahead and do my Marlins. Not sure how picky we wanna get with this but here goes...

Miami Marlins uniform errors
-Warmup jerseys have the incorrect logo on the front. Marlins have a primary logo, which is on the black cap and has the stylized Marlin with an orange upper half, and a secondary logo, which is on the orange cap and has the Marlin with a blue upper half. For some reason they've put the secondary logo on the warmups. No idea why.

-What is listed as the home warm-up cap is a completely nonexistent cap that has never been seen anywhere on planet Earth. The correct cap is black with a white front panel in the style of the Orioles current home caps. For reference check The Show13 which got this right, no clue why this year they have something new if the team has not made a new warmup cap, especially that ghastly all white garbage.

-On the home white road gray alternate orange and alternate black, the collar piping is way too thick. It should be the same thickness as the sleeve piping.

-The home white jersey's piping around both the sleeves and collar are just a single orange stripe, for some reason The Show has it as a double piping with both an orange and silver stripe.

-On Team Color 2 for editing accessories like wristbands, catchers gear, etc. The orange used is way off. The orange used on the uniforms is a correct fiery red orange shade while the Team Color 2 is a strange yellowish orange similar to cheddar cheese. While that seems strange, it provides an awkward clash of colors with someone like Giancarlo Stanton who always wears a red orange compression sleeve. In the game his sleeve doesn't match his uniform at all. Same for catchers like Rob Brantly and Jeff Mathis with the red orange trim on their gear. Don't know how they got it right on the uniforms but then wrong on team color 2.

That's it. I might do others later but I know my Fish so there's that.

-Cap logos are too small but that's definitely not just a Miami issue.

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[Perfect Zero]

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See this is something I've been saying forever. I understand the style guide has to be strictly adhered to but how in tarnations does a jersey go from correct in the guide to wrong? Maybe it was wrong from the start or wasn't in from the start but once it's right how does it possibly go backwards? Who updates the guide and goes well let's change this to something completely wrong? Case in point the Rockies sleeves, the Rays light blues.

Sometimes a team will release something and then think better of it. The best example I have (and I've used it a number of times) was when the Rangers introduced a two toned batting helmet. It was blue in front and red in the back and was metallic almost to the point of looking bedazzled. The team introduced them with the new uniforms, and then the team (and I want to think it was Nolan Ryan himself) said they looked awful and they never saw the playing field. These helmets were in both 2kX and the Show for nearly two years until the style guide was updated.

If I remember correctly, the Rockies did wear this combination to start out with when they were first introduced, but they moved to the black undersleeves when the team hit a hot streak. For reference, I have a picture when they did wear the purple undersleeves.

As for updating the style guide; that falls to the individual clubs. The best way to get them changed is to contact the clubs in whatever medium you choose and to inquire about them. Some clubs are receptive, but most clubs will give you a form letter or nothing in response. It's really the luck of the draw in these things.

Also , wouldn't the style guide also insist that color shades are done right? The Brewers home alternate and Jays blue being wrong seems like something that should be fixed because there's no way that's adhering to the guide. Whoever is supposed to make sure SCEA adheres to the guide, shouldn't they have insisted on correcting those colors?

The colors are likely right in the game, but I'm becoming convinced that the lighting is throwing off some of the shades. I know this has been addressed in the PS4 version (i.e. they "cracked the code" on lighting), but this has been an issue on the PS3 in the past. Hopefully they will look into this in the future.