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  • ShowTyme15
    LADetermined
    • Jan 2004
    • 11853

    #16
    Re: Quick Counts - What Happens When You Replace a Player?

    Originally posted by Jibbler
    isn't the MLB rules. that you can't replace a pitcher or batter until the AB has ended?? I thought the Astros got in trouble for this last year
    Unless there is an injury to either the batter or pitcher or both. (if that ever happens)

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    • HustlinOwl
      All Star
      • Mar 2004
      • 9713

      #17
      Re: Quick Counts - What Happens When You Replace a Player?

      Originally posted by Jibbler
      isn't the MLB rules. that you can't replace a pitcher or batter until the AB has ended?? I thought the Astros got in trouble for this last year
      a reliever must face at least one batter, but other than that you can replace a pitcher whenever. Although highly unlikely unless via injury or Little League

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      • bautistabomb
        Rookie
        • Feb 2013
        • 184

        #18
        Re: Quick Counts - What Happens When You Replace a Player?

        Why do they need to reset the count when a pitcher is changed during an AB. Could the count not just countinue from where it left off even with QC. Or if say the count is 2-1 for example, just a few more pitches simmed and say have it at a 3-2 or 3-1 count when the new pitcher is subbed in. Seems dumb to reset the count as if it never happened.

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        • daddies3angels
          Rookie
          • Mar 2011
          • 311

          #19
          Re: Quick Counts - What Happens When You Replace a Player?

          Originally posted by bautistabomb
          Why do they need to reset the count when a pitcher is changed during an AB. Could the count not just countinue from where it left off even with QC. Or if say the count is 2-1 for example, just a few more pitches simmed and say have it at a 3-2 or 3-1 count when the new pitcher is subbed in. Seems dumb to reset the count as if it never happened.
          Its so the new pitcher gets the pitches counted under him. Not the old pitcher

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          • alo924s
            Rookie
            • Mar 2003
            • 3

            #20
            Re: Quick Counts - What Happens When You Replace a Player?

            Another angle to think about in the bottom of the 8th scenario - if the generated count is 0-2 to the first batter, will you leave in the current pitcher in favor of your setup man to take advantage of the count? Obviously a no-brainier if you get handed a 3-0 count, but is it worth the risk on 0-2 or 1-2? Or will you guys be more likely to ignore the initial count knowing you are bringing in your setup guy no matter what?

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            • ShowTyme15
              LADetermined
              • Jan 2004
              • 11853

              #21
              Re: Quick Counts - What Happens When You Replace a Player?

              Originally posted by alo924s
              Another angle to think about in the bottom of the 8th scenario - if the generated count is 0-2 to the first batter, will you leave in the current pitcher in favor of your setup man to take advantage of the count? Obviously a no-brainier if you get handed a 3-0 count, but is it worth the risk on 0-2 or 1-2? Or will you guys be more likely to ignore the initial count knowing you are bringing in your setup guy no matter what?
              You wont have to do that. If you warmed up a pitcher before hand you can have him automatically come in, in the bottom of the 8th. You'd skip that 0-2 all together

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              • Knight165
                *ll St*r
                • Feb 2003
                • 24964

                #22
                Re: Quick Counts - What Happens When You Replace a Player?

                Originally posted by alo924s
                Another angle to think about in the bottom of the 8th scenario - if the generated count is 0-2 to the first batter, will you leave in the current pitcher in favor of your setup man to take advantage of the count? Obviously a no-brainier if you get handed a 3-0 count, but is it worth the risk on 0-2 or 1-2? Or will you guys be more likely to ignore the initial count knowing you are bringing in your setup guy no matter what?
                Honestly......you should be using the option in the pen to bring in the pitcher to start the new inning if that's what you're planning on.
                With outs in the inning already....it could be used as a cheat...but then again...so could saving and then reloading if things don't go your way.
                A little willpower and integrity!

                bautistabomb....
                You kind of made the point against your own argument.
                If you are planning on a pinch hitter or pitcher substitution....IT NEVER DID HAPPEN(that count with that pitcher/batter)...so how could it be "dumb" to start over as if it didn't happen, when it technically didn't?

                M.K.
                Knight165
                All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                • MrOldboy
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2653

                  #23
                  Quick Counts - What Happens When You Replace a Player?

                  Gives you one free reset if you don't like the count. Could be sort of cheesy in online games if someone gets a bad count and only then decides to bring in a new pitcher just to get a new count, especially if it's with runners on base.

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                  • meatmets
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 85

                    #24
                    Re: Quick Counts - What Happens When You Replace a Player?

                    Originally posted by Jibbler
                    isn't the MLB rules. that you can't replace a pitcher or batter until the AB has ended?? I thought the Astros got in trouble for this last year
                    I believe the Astros pulled a reliever after they brought him in and never faced a batter. relievers have to face one batter atleast, you can pull a starter at any time, on any count

                    edit: don't hold me to the Astros part though,I vaguely remember it
                    Last edited by meatmets; 03-30-2014, 11:15 PM.
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                    • thomas2345
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 225

                      #25
                      Re: Quick Counts - What Happens When You Replace a Player?

                      Originally posted by MrOldboy
                      Gives you one free reset if you don't like the count. Could be sort of cheesy in online games if someone gets a bad count and only then decides to bring in a new pitcher just to get a new count, especially if it's with runners on base.
                      I dont think you can play Quick Counts online, can you?

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                      • MrOldboy
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 2653

                        #26
                        Re: Quick Counts - What Happens When You Replace a Player?

                        Originally posted by thomas2345
                        I dont think you can play Quick Counts online, can you?
                        http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2046002072

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                        • thomas2345
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 225

                          #27
                          Re: Quick Counts - What Happens When You Replace a Player?

                          I guess you can then.. thats pretty cool news to me. Much quicker games, i wonder how many people would actually use that in online though ur pitcher could have crappy counts all game..

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                          • MrOldboy
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 2653

                            #28
                            Re: Quick Counts - What Happens When You Replace a Player?

                            Originally posted by thomas2345
                            I guess you can then.. thats pretty cool news to me. Much quicker games, i wonder how many people would actually use that in online though ur pitcher could have crappy counts all game..
                            It goes both ways, if two players agree to play a game with QC's they both use them. You know going in.

                            The only issue I have with them online is that it will cause sme users to play many more games than others making the leaderboards a bit out of balance. One player might be 1000-250, while another 500-125, but played for the same amount of time.

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                            • thomas2345
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 225

                              #29
                              Re: Quick Counts - What Happens When You Replace a Player?

                              Originally posted by MrOldboy
                              It goes both ways, if two players agree to play a game with QC's they both use them. You know going in.

                              The only issue I have with them online is that it will cause sme users to play many more games than others making the leaderboards a bit out of balance. One player might be 1000-250, while another 500-125, but played for the same amount of time.
                              All i know is the games take too long now we have a way to speed it up. I will definitely be trying QC + Fast Play. Im not sure you can do anything about the leaderboard if it comes to that.

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                              • MrOldboy
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 2653

                                #30
                                Re: Quick Counts - What Happens When You Replace a Player?

                                Originally posted by thomas2345
                                All i know is the games take too long now we have a way to speed it up. I will definitely be trying QC + Fast Play. Im not sure you can do anything about the leaderboard if it comes to that.
                                I think the solution would be to allow QC's in any online mode except DD and Online Rated or keep those stats to another leaderboard entirely. If people want it they can use it, but don't put those stats in with people who play with them off.
                                Last edited by MrOldboy; 03-31-2014, 12:47 AM.

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