Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

[Shady13]

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

Ok, I will give this a shot and edit what Knight tells me to in hope to keep all the info in 1 post:

ALL VERSIONS ARE SET TO REFLECT REAL OPENING DAY ROSTERS (AROD, MAUER, ETC. ARE IN AAA) ANY TRANSACTIONS AFTER OPENING DAY YOU WILL HAVE TO MAKE ON YOUR OWN

ALL VERSIONS HAVE REAL MINOR LEAGUE PLAYERS INCLUDING ATTRIBUTES TRUE TO LIFE

Version 1:

(1) All Minors are real players (some of the AAA and AA lineups need adjusted)
(2) Knight made some adjustments to player attributes to "fix" the lineup problem
(3) Razr's pitch edits are in (gave the pitcher's their correct real life pitches and movement)

Version 2:

Same as Version 1 except Knight adjusted the AAA and AA lineups and rotations as close to real life as possible

Version 3: (NOT RELEASED YET)

(1) All Minors are real players
(2) Knight will readjust the atrributes he moved to fix the lineup problem back to SCEA Stock attributes using the 4/20 SCEA Roster (this is for position players only)
(3) Razr's pitch edits are in

Version 4: (NOT RELEASED YET)

(1) All Minors are real players
(2) SCEA Stock attributes for positon players
(3) SCEA Stock attributes for pitchers (He will take Razr's edits and move them back to SCEA pitches)

Version 5: (NOT RELEASED YET)

(1) All Minors are real players
(2) Knight will make his own changes as he sees fit to improve gameplay

I am not sure of which versions, if any Strut's Stances and Pitching Motions are in, will edit when I find out. Also, Razr will be adjusting Pitcher's Stamina to be more realistic, again not sure which versions this will be in

These are not for sure in the correct order that they will be done, will edit when I find out

This is awesome. Thanks for the info. If I knew how to do it, I would create a poll to see which version of the rosters most people are going to use. I still haven't decided. :-)

[PLite14]

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

The Cubs now only wear 'old' style helmets. All the Cubs in your roster are still wearing the 'new' style.

Did you see this from earlier? In version 2 all of the Cubs are still wearing the 'new' style'.

[Shady13]

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

Suggested Blue Jays Changes

Of course, the minors stuff is great . . . but I thought I'd offer some suggestions from an avid viewers perspective.

The biggest general discrepancy versus RL stats is the Batter ranking (13th) and Overall (11th).

Travis Snider is ostensibly platooning LF with Lind, but Lind is getting alot more starts (Not due to a skill difference, more like Cito wants to acclimatise Snider a little). I have seen Cito yank Lind off the basepaths a few times in favor of Snider.

So, looking at v2, I would suggest:

Change Lind PRI POS to LF.
Huge boost to Snider's power numbers.
Fair boost to Snider's speed and BRAbil.
Snider SEC POS RF
Change Bautista's SEC POS to RF
(This will leave the minors bereft of RFs, so maybe an inaccurate switch of one of the AA or AAA to RF might be a personal choice)

Scutaro: add 2b SEC POS, bump power, lower speed
A. Hill: Change SEC POS to SS or none. bump power/hitting in general
McDonald: Is the backup SS behind Scutaro IRL. The rosters have him quite higher overall than Scutaro. IRL McD comes to the plate hoping to walk - 0 power. Flawless fielder, though. Could add 2B as SEC POS.
Barajas: Is ranked lower than Arencibia for some reason - should be adjusted.
Ricky Romero: Is lights out so far.
Millar: Is much higher on the Real Jays depth chart.
Rios: Easily the speediest player on the team.

Hope this is the right place to put such things.

Much thanks to all modder types who "fix" these things... dang it's funny now watching the "director of accuracy" commercial. Still a great series though..

Nice to see another Jays fan on here. One minor issue with the changes that you requested above. Lind is the DH 95% of the time. Snider is playing LF against righties and sitting against lefties for the moment. When he sits, Bautista is in LF. Same deal for Overbay for some reason. They are playing Millar at 1B against lefties.

Just watched the Jays beat Texas. Five series wins in a row (12-5 record).

[Knight165]

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

Does anyone know if this is true?

Yes.....Strut has v2 right now and is updating that. He needs a couple of days he said.

I will also....eventually....try and add those same updates to each set I put out.....Strut has or will give me the data(I can't remember....AAAAAHHHHH!! )

M.K.
Knight165

[Knight165]

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

no...all of knights rosters are based of the original rosters. when they mean "updated" for knights stock edits, they mean that the attributes that he will be giving the players will be based on the stock ratings from the updated roster.

Yes...

Thanks

M.K.

[PLite14]

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

EDIT: DISREGARD, I was being ignorant

sorry if this has been asked before, but why is Ronny Cedeno still a Cub?

[DrUrsus]

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

sorry if this has been asked before, but why is Ronny Cedeno still a Cub?

I just checked. He's not on Full Minors V2. I don't think he was on FM version 1 either. If you loaded from the vault, after you download it and save it, make sure you load it. Hope that helps.

[PLite14]

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

I just checked. He's not on Full Minors V2. I don't think he was on FM version 1 either. If you loaded from the vault, after you download it and save it, make sure you load it. Hope that helps.

thanks for that, I forgot that the lastest updated rosters from SCEA would still be loaded when I logged off

but the Cubs' helmets are still wrong

How do you think SCEA's stock ratings versus Knight's fixed ones will affect the gameplay?

[DrUrsus]

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

thanks for that, I forgot that the lastest updated rosters from SCEA would still be loaded when I logged off

but the Cubs' helmets are still wrong

How do you think SCEA's stock ratings versus Knight's fixed ones will affect the gameplay?

Yea, I've forgotten that a few times too, lol.
Yes, you will have to fix the Cubs helmets unless Knights non-lineup fix roster tonight has it fixed.
I think fixing it for lineups to work on the previous versions could affect some guys a little like Grady Sizemore since he would lead off in one and not lead off in another. Knight probably had to knock his power down a little and increase his speed or bunting to get him to leadoff in the previous versions. Maybe the same for Soriano. I don't know, he would know better about that. It's hard to tell unless you sim a season and just check out the stats and just play. For most minor tweaks, I don't think it will change it much, but I can't say for sure.
On the other hand, without lineup fixes, and no patch to fix it, Grady Sizemore may bat third simulated and knock in more RBIs, etc. We just need the patch to address this, imo.

I am going to play with the non-lineup fixed (SCEA stock players with Razrs pitch edits and Full minors) rosters he releases tonight (since I can't wait to start a real franchise), use a second controller to fix the lineups for teams I play against (move it back to the middle after the game starts), and hope for a patch.

By the way, I have watched the Iowa Cubs a few times at Sec Taylor Stadium in Des Moines, IA. Best food in the minors (used to be when I went there at least) (and majors almost). Very very nice stadium. Even saw the Beach Boys there once, and a Kerry Wood Rehab assignment, lol . It has won Baseball Weekly's best minors park a few times.

[koebsual]

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

Yea, I've forgotten that a few times too, lol.
Yes, you will have to fix the Cubs helmets unless Knights non-lineup fix roster tonight has it fixed.
I think fixing it for lineups to work on the previous versions could affect some guys a little like Grady Sizemore since he would lead off in one and not lead off in another. Knight probably had to knock his power down a little and increase his speed or bunting to get him to leadoff in the previous versions. Maybe the same for Soriano. I don't know, he would know better about that. It's hard to tell unless you sim a season and just check out the stats and just play. For most minor tweaks, I don't think it will change it much, but I can't say for sure.
On the other hand, without lineup fixes, and no patch to fix it, Grady Sizemore may bat third simulated and knock in more RBIs, etc. We just need the patch to address this, imo.

I am going to play with the non-lineup fixed (SCEA stock players with Razrs pitch edits and Full minors) rosters he releases tonight (since I can't wait to start a real franchise), use a second controller to fix the lineups for teams I play against (move it back to the middle after the game starts), and hope for a patch.

By the way, I have watched the Iowa Cubs a few times at Sec Taylor Stadium in Des Moines, IA. Best food in the minors (used to be when I went there at least) (and majors almost). Very very nice stadium. Even saw the Beach Boys there once , and a Kerry Wood Rehab assignment, lol. It has won Baseball Weekly's best minors park a few times.

I love Des Moines! Skips and that cajun crappy beer joint down town! Also the German place? It is a great park. So are V3 released yet?

[DrUrsus]

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

I love Des Moines! Skips and that cajun crappy beer joint down town! Also the German place? It is a great park. So are V3 released yet?

My wife used to know Will Ohman's wife a little (she's a lawyer) when he pitched for the Iowa Cubs and they lived there. I used to tell her to tell his wife he sucked, jokingly.

Anyone remember when Rod Beck lived in his RV outside of the stadium? He seemed like a good guy (rest in peace).
Don't remember the crappy Cajun beer place down town. Maybe that's newer. I haven't been to Des Moines since 2002 or 2003.

[Knight165]

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

Here is the position player stock set...


.....http://www.sendspace.com/file/dksjie

Do you guys want it on the vault?

Still has the double Moran(sorry)

Strut is doing equipment now(the helmets)...shoot him a PM about it so he remembers for sure.
Thanks...

M.K.
Knight165

[DrUrsus]

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

Here is the position player stock set...


.....http://www.sendspace.com/file/dksjie

Do you guys want it on the vault?

Still has the double Moran(sorry)

Strut is doing equipment now(the helmets)...shoot him a PM about it so he remembers for sure.
Thanks...

M.K.
Knight165

Alright! Come to poppa (not you Knight, your rosters ). Do you mean shoot Strut a PM about posting it in the Vault? That would be great to have them in the vault.
Thanks a lot.

[Knight165]

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

Alright! Come to poppa (not you Knight, your rosters ). Do you mean shoot Strut a PM about posting it in the Vault? That would be great to have them in the vault.
Thanks a lot.

No...the Cubs helmets..

I'll put them in the vault now.
These are v2....just changed to stock SCEA ratings(position players)
Razr's pitch edits still in.
Full Minor leaguers(ala v2)

M.K.
Knight165

[Navi's_Navy]

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors '09 - Discussion Thread

Here is the position player stock set...


.....http://www.sendspace.com/file/dksjie

Do you guys want it on the vault?

Still has the double Moran(sorry)

Strut is doing equipment now(the helmets)...shoot him a PM about it so he remembers for sure.
Thanks...

M.K.
Knight165

I think you might've answered this (at least partially) in one of your previous posts, but I just want to make sure. Will this version (full minors, Razr's pitch edits, position player Stock) be getting strut's updates and Razr's stamina updates. You said you were going to add strut to every version you realesed, but considering this was released before are you going to be going back and adding the stance/equipment updates in for this Roster. Is Razr's stamina information going to get put on past versions (specifically this stock position players one)? Thanks for all the work