MLB '10: The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors V.1

[King Gro23]

Re: MLB '10: The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors V.1

Sorry to be off topic. Nice news about the rosters. Also are Alexander Ciriaco & Audy Ciriaco the same person?

[bigjdotcom01]

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Whew my PS3 Has been broke since April 17th Thank god I am manually fixing it rather then send it somewhere and cough up 100+ bucks. I have the famous no read on disc fault Blu-ray drive or lense I am not sure I am midway through disassembly. Good to know I havent missed a whole bunch still a ton of baseball to be played.
GOTTTA LOVE THE SHOW MAN!

No worries man, we should have V2 by Memorial Day and then we will have all summer to play!

[Double Deuce]

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the minor league engine sucks!

Ksig, there is no "minor league engine", it's the same engine. The ratings for minor leaguers are just set REALLY low on v1. I'm assuming it was because the focus for v1 was just on getting a set with the top prospects in place out for the masses, and that the minor league ratings across the board will get a boost so the players are at least not completely horrible in v2.

No offense to Ridin or whoever else worked on the v1 ratings. I just hope that more of the minor leaguers are actually playable for the next version. If the worry was that if you set their ratings too high, that they will be too good and take over the major league roles, I don't think that's something that you need to worry about for guys with C-F ratings. They're not gonna get much better than they already are, for the most part, even with the new dynamic potential system.

[ssxtricky30]

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Ksig, there is no "minor league engine", it's the same engine. The ratings for minor leaguers are just set REALLY low on v1. I'm assuming it was because the focus for v1 was just on getting a set with the top prospects in place out for the masses, and that the minor league ratings across the board will get a boost so the players are at least not completely horrible in v2.

No offense to Ridin or whoever else worked on the v1 ratings. I just hope that more of the minor leaguers are actually playable for the next version. If the worry was that if you set their ratings too high, that they will be too good and take over the major league roles, I don't think that's something that you need to worry about for guys with C-F ratings. They're not gonna get much better than they already are, for the most part, even with the new dynamic potential system.

Well I trust that they know what they are doing when it comes to attributes. Even though I will admit I kept thinking the minor league ratings were too low as well. Like I said a while ago, it took me to play my 8th game to hit my 1st HomeRun with a minor league player. And When I simmed a few games... after the 25th game, my Double A team only had like 4 steals and 3 home runs combined.

[Knight165]

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knight any update on teams you have done.

I'll update you guys tonight.....but it looks like I'll have 6 to go.
I'm pressing....to do 2 teams a day...but that's a brutal pace to be honest.
I'll keep you guys in the loop all week.
In reality...I'm guessing early next week.
Someone said Memorial Day Weekend. I can guarantee that(unless they cart me off to the hospital with bleeding eyes and my head swelled to 3 times it's normal size! )

M.K.
Knight165

[CWood2]

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I'll update you guys tonight.....but it looks like I'll have 6 to go.
I'm pressing....to do 2 teams a day...but that's a brutal pace to be honest.
I'll keep you guys in the loop all week.
In reality...I'm guessing early next week.
Someone said Memorial Day Weekend. I can guarantee that(unless they cart me off to the hospital with bleeding eyes and my head swelled to 3 times it's normal size! )

M.K.
Knight165

And perfectly, I've got that Friday off for a nice long Memorial weekend of Knight and Co. Rosters and CWood's franchise extravaganza.

[franch1se]

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Another thing about the low rated minor league players is after season 1. I like to use them to build by team up in future years. I just finished season 1 last night and i had 10 guys retire in my organization due to "Ability". Couple of them IRL are pretty decent prospects too, all had C potential or less which I'm sure as a lot to do with it.

Note - The 10 were minor league players and not including Matt Stairs or other vets i had.

[ksig24]

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I thought that they addressed this with the 30 team control?

[coreyhartsdaughter]

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Another thing about the low rated minor league players is after season 1. I like to use them to build by team up in future years. I just finished season 1 last night and i had 10 guys retire in my organization due to "Ability". Couple of them IRL are pretty decent prospects too, all had C potential or less which I'm sure as a lot to do with it.

Note - The 10 were minor league players and not including Matt Stairs or other vets i had.

Actually this is quite realistic. Heavy roster turnover for minor league affiliates from AA down is quite common. More so for marginal players (with low upside) If you compare any two 09' vs 10' opening day minor league roster, you'll generally see less than 50% of the same names.

It just seems more significant given the 'attachment' we grow to players in any given season/roster set.

[ltw0303cavs]

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Hey here is Keith Law's updated top prospect list

Graduated to majors
1. Jason Heyward, OF, Atlanta. With the big club all season, he's 26 at-bats away from officially losing his rookie status for future seasons -- and is hitting a remarkable .276/.408/.562 as a 20-year-old in the majors.

9. Justin Smoak, 1B, Texas. In the majors since April 23, but off to a slow start, although he's walking and hitting for power -- just having bad luck on balls in play. He'll come around.

11. Brian Matusz, LHP, Baltimore. Officially lost his eligibility for the 2011 list in April. Has a 4.18 ERA (but a 3.20 FIP) pitching in the majors' toughest division.

12. Starlin Castro, SS, Chicago Cubs. Hit .376/.421/.569 in Double-A, then came to the majors, where he's off to a hot start in his first nine games. I wouldn't have called him up this early, but he's so gifted a hitter he might be able to thrive, even though he still has areas for improvement.

13. Neftali Feliz, RHP, Texas. The Rangers' stand-in at closer when Frank Francisco is hurt or out of favor, Feliz has punched out 20 with three unintentional walks in 19 innings, and, if anything, is throwing harder than ever.

15. Wade Davis, RHP, Tampa Bay. His 3.38 ERA masks some ugly peripherals; it's hard to keep runs off the board when you walk a man every other inning, for example. His velocity is fine, but his command has been off, especially on his hard curveball. But he's doing this at the MLB level.

The new Top 25 MLB prospects
1. Stephen Strasburg, RHP, Washington. Now in Triple-A, working on refining his delivery with men on Venus, or something. He's scheduled to pitch Tuesday night after the Nats gave him an extra day of rest. I can't imagine he will still be in the minors a month from now. Previous ranking: No. 2

2. Carlos Santana, C, Cleveland. Hitting .322/.447/.570 in Triple-A. Lou Marson, meanwhile, has a 62 percent ground-ball rate in the majors, which is a function of his swing and thus not likely to get better any time soon. Santana, like Strasburg, should be up inside of a month. Previous ranking: No. 3

3. Buster Posey, C, San Francisco. I'd point out that he's raking (.346/.436/.549) in Triple-A, but we know pitching at that level just isn't very good. Of course, neither are lame excuses. (As well, Posey continues to cut down base-stealers at a very high rate, assuaging fears that he's a bad defensive catcher.) Previous ranking: No. 4

4. Mike Stanton, OF, Florida. Has hit 15 bombs already in Double-A -- he's on pace for 60 in a full 144-game minor league season -- and he already has more than half as many walks this year as he had in 2008 or '09. He could jump directly to the big leagues, although he might see his modest contact rate drop in the short term if he does. Previous ranking: No. 5


5. Desmond Jennings, OF, Tampa Bay. Started the season on the shelf with a left wrist injury, but has hit .320/.414/.400 in Triple-A since returning, with eight steals in 18 games. With B.J. Upton not hitting -- and striking out like mad -- I could see Jennings having an impact in Tampa this season. Previous ranking: No. 6

6. Martin Perez, LHP, Texas. He's walking more guys than usual but has otherwise performed well for a 19-year-old pitcher in Double-A. Previous ranking: No. 7

7. Domonic Brown, OF, Philadelphia. The Jayson Werth replacement is laying waste to Double-A, with a .337/.402/.653 line that must give the Phils' front office confidence that they can stand to lose Werth to free agency without too much of a hit to their chances of contending. Previous ranking: No. 14

8. Dustin Ackley, 2B, Seattle. Ackley got off to an ice-cold start in the Southern League but has rallied a little of late to pull his line up to .195/.340/.297. Is the difficulty of changing positions affecting him at the plate? Was the jump to Double-A too much? I'll go with "small sample-size fluke" for now, as I'm not alone in thinking the one thing I was sure Ackley would do in pro ball was hit. Previous ranking: No. 8

9. Jesus Montero, C, NY Yankees. Off to a very slow start in Triple-A, although to be fair, he's very young for that level, at 20. He has DHd three times in the past six games after catching in all but two of his first 25 games played. Montero still projects as a DH/1B due to significant concerns about his defense. Previous ranking: No. 10

10. Aroldis Chapman, RHP, Cincinnati. Since his tremendous first outing, he's walked 20 and fanned 32 in 30.1 innings in Triple-A. He could help the big league club this year, but odds are rising that it'll be in a relief role rather than as a starter. Previous ranking: No. 16

11. Jeremy Hellickson, RHP, Tampa Bay. Just keeps rolling along, with a 2.93 ERA and a 49/9 K/BB ratio in 46 innings in Triple-A, ready to fill in the next gap in the Rays' rotation. Previous ranking: No. 17

12. Casey Kelly, RHP, Boston. Pitching well as a 20-year-old in Double-A on tight pitch limits, with just 25.2 innings thrown across seven starts. I think he could help the big club this year, but they've got him on such a low innings cap it's possible they'll have to shut him down before they can think about recalling him. Previous ranking: No. 18

13. Aaron Hicks, OF, Minnesota. Repeating the Midwest League -- I don't know why either -- and handling himself well, with a .272/.391/.400 line buoyed by an increased walk rate. He turns 21 in October, so between his age and plate discipline, a move to high-A midyear makes sense. Previous ranking: No. 19

14. Mike Trout, OF, LA Angels. Trout turns 19 in August, but got off to a great start in the full-season Midwest League and has only been increasing his performance -- in contact rate, power, and walk rate -- as the season has worn on. Between graduations and his own enormous ceiling, he could be in the Top 10 of this list by the end of the year. Previous ranking: No. 49

15. Brett Wallace, 1B, Toronto. Another player in super-two purgatory, Wallace is hitting .310/.369/.614 in the cozy hitters' environment of Las Vegas. He's still more of a hitter for average first and for power second, but the hot start has to encourage the Jays to throw Lyle Overbay overboard sooner rather than later. Previous ranking: No. 20

16. Logan Morrison, 1B, Florida. On the shelf in Triple-A since late April with a shoulder injury. Previous ranking: No. 21

17. Zack Britton, LHP, Baltimore. Throwing strikes and getting ground balls in Double-A; on track for a debut at some point in late 2011. Previous ranking: No. 25

18. Tyler Matzek, LHP, Colorado. Pitching well for Colorado's extended-spring club in Tucson, so he'll be on a minor league roster by late June, although I wouldn't be shocked if he went to full-season Asheville. Previous ranking: No. 22

19. Michael Taylor, OF, Oakland. Not hitting; the first time you could say that about Taylor since his short-season experience in 2007. Previous ranking: No. 24

20. Kyle Gibson, RHP, Minnesota. Gibson was a probable top-10 pick in last year's draft before a stress fracture in his pitching arm caused him to tumble to the Twins, who deserve credit for taking a risk that already appears to be paying off, as he's getting ground balls, missing bats and avoiding walks for the Twins' high-A affiliate. Previous ranking: No. 89

21. Shelby Miller, RHP, St. Louis. Miller is throwing gas in low-A while keeping the walks down. The Cardinals have been restricting his work, similar to the Red Sox with Kelly, all signs of the massive shift in how teams handle teenage arms from the "Dallas Green-ing" method of the 1980s and '90s. Previous ranking: No. 38

22. Josh Vitters, 3B, Chicago (NL). Showing some recognition of the need to get on base this year -- with more walks in high-A than he had in more at-bats last year at that same level -- then started out 7-for-21 after a promotion to Double-A, where he's among the youngest every-day players. Previous ranking: No. 30

23. Eric Hosmer, 1B, Kansas City. Got his eyes fixed and his hand fixed and -- voila -- started hitting, with a .381/.462/.575 line so far in high-A, a level for which he too is young (20). Previous ranking: No. 34

24. Lars Anderson, 1B, Boston. A lost 2009 appears to be completely behind him, as he's back to working the count and spraying hard line drives around the field. He could help the Red Sox in the second half, but it would be hard to blame them for being cautious after what happened to him last year. Previous ranking: No. 56

25. Mike Moustakas, 3B, Kansas City. Off to an unbelievable start for Double-A Northwest Arkansas. Some of that is his home park, but he's still hitting .326/.389/.522 on the road, a line that would make him an All-Star in the majors if he could just play passable defense at third -- which remains an open question. Previous ranking: No. 69

Honorable mention
Jarred Cosart, RHP, Philadelphia. He could also qualify as the player who made the biggest jump. I may be getting slightly ahead of myself here, but Cosart showed up in spring training sitting in the mid-90s, prompting one evaluator to tell me he was "the second-best arm in the minors," after the guy at the top of the list. And so far, Cosart is lighting up the Sally League, with 33 whiffs and just only walks in 28.2 innings. Previous ranking: NR

Somewhere in between
Jenrry Mejia, RHP, NY Mets. No. 23 on the first list. There was no indication he was ready for the majors at the end of last year, but the Mets brought him north and shoehorned him into a short-relief role, where he's been a replacement-level reliever who throws fastballs about 80 percent of the time. The Mets are sending him back to the minors to work on becoming a starter again, so let's hope this two-month folly hasn't set his development back too far. Previous ranking: No. 23

[RyanP421]

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I knew he wasn't big on Alvarez, but leaving him off the top 25?

[coreyhartsdaughter]

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Knight, given some of the edits in the patch today, how will this impact these rosters?

Will their be any issues? (All of the changes were to SCEA guys I believe.)

[Knight165]

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Knight, given some of the edits in the patch today, how will this impact these rosters?

Will their be any issues? (All of the changes were to SCEA guys I believe.)

I don't think so.
It shouldn't effect it in any way.

M.K.
Knight165

[MizzyMike05]

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after updating the game with the new patch, it said that it would take effect to current franchises and stuff, but it hasn't, at least for the potential ratings change. The new patch fixed some pitcher potentials in the roster, but not knight and co. rosters. I'm a pirates fan and i use them, and pitchers such as zach duke, evan meek, and paul maholm all had D potential, even though they definitely should not have D potential. idk how many other teams have problems like this (probly a bunch) cause it kinda sucks. after the first season, zach duke and paul maholm are barely MLB deserving, and after the second, they are AA pitchers at best with no upside. does anyone else see these problems?

[franch1se]

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was Cedric Hunter added to V2? Padres CF. I know you said you made a lot of changes