MLB '10: The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors V.1

[ksig24]

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Mike Leake: was going to be drafted as a SS and can hit yet his attributes are 1 for all hitting. His fastball tops out at about 90 but he has an idea of where to place it. His FB hits 96 in the game.

[Mr. Franchise]

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I noticed something about minor league power hitters. I had Shelley Duncan in my Giants franchise, and even though he had power in the 30's, he hit 17 bombs for me in half a year. So I'm not sure exactly how it works.

[ltw0303cavs]

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Good call Franchise, I really believe the simulation model in the Minors is different than the Major league simulation model

[Mr. Franchise]

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I simmed a franchise to test out the futures game. For some reason the WORLD team had Dwayne Wise, Dustin Mosley, and Jamie Hoffman on it. Is there not enough WORLD players?

[coreyhartsdaughter]

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I'd also like to add that many of the people complaining about minor league power always want to see a youth movement way to fast (calling up someone in year 1 or 2) then get frustrated when they hit 12 HR in 500 AB's.

Many 1st round draft picks are in the minor leagues for 3,4,5 years before they see a full season of plate appearances. (always exceptions of course).

I too can absolutely rake, (with contact at 1, timing 4, solid hits 2, power 6), and think manipulating power ratings is absurd. In my opinion, that is what sliders are for. There is a certain balance to the game with the ratings out of the box, of course individual fans (homers) don't agree with many ratings for players on their favorite team (more so if they suck at the game and end a season with 10 Kyle Blanks HR's)

Also, what happens to the draft picks generated by the game? Now they'll pale in comparison to the steroid induced monsters created by some of the rating manipulators.

Come on, this was Knight's project. It wouldn't exist without him. If some feel so strongly about lack of power, then edit yourself AFTER a version is distributed amongst the masses. We shouldn't be handicapped by a few (power hungry?!) people who feel their minor leaguers should be hitting more home runs.

[Cozar]

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Good call Franchise, I really believe the simulation model in the Minors is different than the Major league simulation model

I think people are forgetting about the effect of pitching. Pitchers have a HR/9 stat, which is almost certainly considered in calculating whether a hit is a HR. Thus, while you might need 60 power to hit a lot of HRs in the majors, maybe 30 power is sufficient in the minors because the pitchers are worse.

This is what lets you balance between the minors and the majors given that all stats progress. Keep batters and pitchers in the minors rated lower than their major league colleagues, and you should be able to get realistic numbers in both leagues without MiLB players being called up to replace MLB players too soon.

[JaSnake16]

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I think people are forgetting about the effect of pitching. Pitchers have a HR/9 stat, which is almost certainly considered in calculating whether a hit is a HR. Thus, while you might need 60 power to hit a lot of HRs in the majors, maybe 30 power is sufficient in the minors because the pitchers are worse.

This is what lets you balance between the minors and the majors given that all stats progress. Keep batters and pitchers in the minors rated lower than their major league colleagues, and you should be able to get realistic numbers in both leagues without MiLB players being called up to replace MLB players too soon.

I also think what's being misunderstood as well is the numbers will SIM correctly. Someone posted before that the game is meant to be played with major league franchises first and foremost. If you play an entire franchise as a minor league team, even with fake players and ratings, your bound to have the same gripes. However the weaker pitch ratings like hr/9 and clutch really lead to the accurate sim numbers with the low power numbers in the minors.

[Mr. Franchise]

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But I hit 17 with Duncan in the MAJORS on legend hitting. And it was only half a year. What I'm trying to say is, test the players out in game before you say they need a power boost. Also, look at slugging PCT. instead of just HR's.

[Jason_19]

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But I hit 17 with Duncan in the MAJORS on legend hitting. And it was only half a year. What I'm trying to say is, test the players out in game before you say they need a power boost. Also, look at slugging PCT. instead of just HR's.

Was he an every day player when you hit those HRs? If so, that's not unrealistic at all. Duncan has a lot of power. He's more than likely not going to hit above .215-.225, but he could easily hit 32-38 HRs in 500 ABs.

[jluva42]

guys please forgive me, but I am trying to show my kid how to use the game and get the rosters properly done, but I am a complete novice and cant seem to figure out how to download it to the actual system from my computer. Please help, thanks in advance

[HealyMonster]

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guys please forgive me, but I am trying to show my kid how to use the game and get the rosters properly done, but I am a complete novice and cant seem to figure out how to download it to the actual system from my computer. Please help, thanks in advance

download the file to your computer, then transfer it to a memory stick or portable hard drive or something to that effect and then connect that to your ps3.

once on the ps3 find the file and transfer it to your ps3 and boot up the game.


you could also go online in the game to the roster vault and fin the file and download it just like that.

[Jason_19]

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guys please forgive me, but I am trying to show my kid how to use the game and get the rosters properly done, but I am a complete novice and cant seem to figure out how to download it to the actual system from my computer. Please help, thanks in advance

Use WinRAR to unpack the file. You will get a folder that is titled "PS3". All you have to do is copy or move that "PS3" folder to your USB drive. After that, go to the "saved data utility" section on the main PS3 screen and make sure that you hit the triangle button to display the roster file and then copy it to your PS3.

[Mr. Franchise]

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Was he an every day player when you hit those HRs? If so, that's not unrealistic at all. Duncan has a lot of power. He's more than likely not going to hit above .215-.225, but he could easily hit 32-38 HRs in 500 ABs.

It was in about 250 ABs. But the point was that people were complaining that minor leauger power was too low, and even though his power was 30, he still had decent power.

[bjf1377]

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Another Indians minor league note. I think you guys created Anderson Hernandez for the Columbus Clippers, but left the real Anderson Hernandez on the Binghampton Mets, so there is 2 of the same player (one CAP, one real) in these rosters

[dkrause1971]

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But I hit 17 with Duncan in the MAJORS on legend hitting. And it was only half a year. What I'm trying to say is, test the players out in game before you say they need a power boost. Also, look at slugging PCT. instead of just HR's.

You can state what you like. I have 10 homers with Rickie Weeks in the first 23 games- i am not going to state the MLB rosters are broken over that sample. Just like you shouldn't over my opinion in half a season of a sample size of 1. You provided no context- maybe you have 300 homers with your team for all i know.

Also, thats great that you hit 17 with Duncan in the pros but that doesn't prove my point is incorrect. Duncan has MLB power so should have power numbers of at least an average MLB player. Now his contact, etc should be very low but he should have legit power. How anyone with a straight face can tell me the guys who actually lead the AAA in homers should be less than a backup SS is beyond me.

And sorry, i don't believe your information. One i doubt you played 81 games since the roster came out. And if you did, i doubt anyone would play 81 games with a 32-46-30-30 1B much less at the pros. Even on Cleveland- you have at 23 batters better than Duncan.



BTW- i just simmed a season- Duncan hit 4 homers. The high with these rosters is 32 on the AAA. All the guys who are hitting near 15+ are the better prospects and some SCEA guys with MLB power (Jacobs had the 32). Most teams leader had around 12 which is ok, but these guys who hit alot last year were well below.

Here are the homers totals of the guys i listed earlier in the full season sim i just did at default sliders.

Duncan - 4, Huber-4, M Jones- 6, A Tracy- 7, La Hair- 8, Katin- 5, Koshansky- 9, Barker- 1, Richard- 0, Thorman- 8, B Nelson- 3, Bankston- 7, S Bynum- 9. Anyone i didn't list had either zero or i must have missed them.

Just sim a season. It makes sense that guys with lower 30s power will hit like the numbers i posted. Where a guy who lead the AAA in homers like Jacobs has 61-47-74-55. Again i am not stating everyone should be raised. I am stating guys like the ones i mentioned should be raised. These are all older power guys with crap potential, it hurts nothing to raise these to mid 50s to 65. for the upper end guys. When i simmed with changes to these guys they hit about 10-15 homers more than the list above, so high teens to lower 20s. None of them made the MLB roster.

I don't blame Knight or anyone for this. My intention is not to blame anyone, it is to point out an area i think is often forgotten. Everyone wants the prospects good. Well these types are more likely to get the callup this year. That is my intention- to get the older farm guys simming to a more realistic level.

I have been changing them on my copy of the strut file, so really doesn't matter to me if you use them or not. I thought it might be useful information for knight or whoever. I greatly appreciate his and the others work and try to add something back when i can.