MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

[ajf718]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

V4 is on Sportsconnect as OSFMV4Rerated - this is the original V4 file that myself and TD did based on V3. Contained is all the bells and whistles of precious versions as well as The majority of SCEA players rerated utilizing the Roster Tool program as well as trying to reflect this years performance.

TD recently made a few minor corrections after some play on his own to a few relievers (closer durability) and upped David Price's stamina. He posted that as V4MinorCorrections (I think).

V4.1 is just an alternative to V4 since there are people in the community that request different stamina ratings other than the ones that Razr used for V3. It will utilize Bahnzo's roster tool to use the stamina rating that it comes up with. This will be completed this week. I may touch up a few things there but nothing earth shattering that will make a difference to V4. I will post those here this way anyone can modify their version to such without having to DL ANOTHER version LOL.

Hope this helps.

jasnake jenrry mejia and michael bowden of the mets ,red sox both are rp/sp .what rating would you give them for stamina .

[Dean3790]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

v4.1 is getting worked on right now. Stamina is being adjusted using Bahnzo's tool.

[grgmths1433]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

v4.1 is getting worked on right now. Stamina is being adjusted using Bahnzo's tool.

hahaha!!! everytime i get started making rosters moves to current date a new verison starting coming out.is 4.1 in testing or you making a few changes.will this be out soon,if not i just stick what i have to share my updated rosters.my cutoff dated is 6/28 which is today.thanks a bunch man

[ferriscj24]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

Rosters look great to me, pitch edits are fantastic.

Only issue I see is:

- C.C. Sabbathia was completely gassed after 95 pitches and C.C. has been known to be something of a workhorse, constantly throwing 120 pitches in games and being perfectly fine.

Everything else looks great.

I've been saying the same thing since V.3, but everyone seems to think I'm dreaming or something. Porcello pitched a dominant marathon last night for me, 5 innings of shutout ball for 72 pitches, and I had to take him out before his arm fell off. He was gassed. At 72.

I took a screen shot of Scott Kazmir a few days ago in the V.3 thread, page 51 I believe, he had about 50-60% energy left after 1 inning of 24 pitches. Yet, nobody seems to think the stamina edits are a problem.

[abcabc]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

v4.1 is getting worked on right now. Stamina is being adjusted using Bahnzo's tool.

Thanks Dean, looking forward to testing it out.

For people that still may not be clear on this, v4.1 will address starting pitcher stamina attributes using bahnzo's rostertool data. v3.0 and v4.0 did not, for starter stamina. (but v4.0, in contrast to v3.0 did use bahnzo tool data for basically 'everything else').

with v3 and v4.0, the problem for those that can see it, is the starting pitcher has ZERO energy on his energy bar by around 80? pitches... whether it takes 5IP or 7, the IP don't matter. Now, we all agree we can try to grind it out so the starter gets his 100+ pitches, but those of us seeing this as a problem in realism, agree that no MLB caliber starter is tossing his 81st to his 110th pitches w/o his mojo. In otherwords we'd like to see his energy bar depleted starting around 110-120 pitches, then if he pitches from 120 to his 130th pitch, it would be a grind it out w/ zero energy on the bar. this is basically it.

now, there is a version in between v4.0 and the yet to be released v4.1, it is called "v4 minorfixes" released by thirddegrees... he basically lowered the durability attributes of most relief pitchers.


Dean, I hope you're doing the work for v4.1 using TD's v4minorfixes?

[abcabc]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

I've been saying the same thing since V.3, but everyone seems to think I'm dreaming or something. Porcello pitched a dominant marathon last night for me, 5 innings of shutout ball for 72 pitches, and I had to take him out before his arm fell off. He was gassed. At 72.

I took a screen shot of Scott Kazmir a few days ago in the V.3 thread, page 51 I believe, he had about 50-60% energy left after 1 inning of 24 pitches. Yet, nobody seems to think the stamina edits are a problem.

lol, well i feel for you... but you can't say no body... i'm with you, and if you've read Dean's posts the past few days, even on another thread in the sliders forum as well, you're not alone. i guess you mean 'nobody' as in anyone involved in making the rosters up to this point?

[ferriscj24]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

lol, well i feel for you... but you can't say no body... i'm with you, and if you've read Dean's posts the past few days, even on another thread in the sliders forum as well, you're not alone. i guess you mean 'nobody' as in anyone involved in making the rosters up to this point?

Well...in a sense, but I don't want to say that. I have been using OS Rosters for a number of years now, and the work these guys put into them, for free at that, is nothing short of amazing. I have read Dean's posts, and while he is essentially saying the same thing I am, he is delivering it a bit differently, and I don't necessarily want to be lumped into that.

I have nothing but the utmost respect for Knight, HustlinOwl, Ridin, Razr, Strut, and everyone else involved on these rosters. Further, it is not my intention to take something that they have worked so hard on and gripe about it. However, I think that as a forum and as OS members, we can communicate openly about any issues that arise. I just find it kind of odd that (I use this loosely), "most" people are saying they see nothing wrong with the stamina edits in this years version of The Show.

I play as the Tigers, and Justin Verlander can go 100+ pitches no problem, even WITH these edits (His stamina is still in the 90's after the edits). But when you get into the middle and back end of your rotation, these guys are completely drained after 4 or 5 innings and anywhere from 40-60 pitches. Sometimes I get REALLY lucky and can throw 70 or so. But I just don't see how this is accurate/realistic. Not to mention, if I gas a pitcher by allowing him to throw an incredible 80 pitches in a game, when his turn comes back int he rotation 5 days later, he is only at 80% or so, which in turn means I can only get 3 or 4 innings out of him and maybe 40 pitches. Then the vicious cycle continues into the next week, and the next, and so on...

All in all, I am NOT bashing these rosters by any means whatsoever. I admire what these guys do and how they supply them to us out of their own good will. But these stamina edits/issues are, in fact, a problem. I guess I just scratch my head when I read how nobody else seems to think they are. Like I said, I even posted a screen shot of Kazmir with half energy in the tank after 24 pitches in the first. And the response to that was...It has nothing to do with the edits, he has a history of injuries, problem solved. I mean...really!? A starting pitcher can throw 24 pitches and be halfway through the tank? Come on...

[Dean3790]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

I am literally adjusting stamina for v4.1 as I type this. We know it's an issue and it's getting adjusted.

[nca34]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

Dean are you adjusting the starter stamina only from Bahnzo's tool or stamina for both starters and relievers? Thanks to all involved for making these, it sure adds a lot to an already great game.

[boweezy21]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

Can anyone tell me what settings or sliders are best used for this set? I normally use All-Star Batting and HOF Pitching.

[JaSnake16]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

To answer tge question posted earlier, dean is doing me a solid and applying bahnzos number to the set. When he's finished it will come back to me and TD to apply the 4.1 changes and other small stuff (strut had some stuff i wanted to get in for 4 but got pinched for time and demand amongst other small changed) any change from 4 to 4.1 I will list so people can make their own changes to V4 so as to update their roster w/o having to change stamina or interupt their seasons too much.

[toolapc1978]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

Do we have a time frame on these?

[strut24]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

To answer tge question posted earlier, dean is doing me a solid and applying bahnzos number to the set. When he's finished it will come back to me and TD to apply the 4.1 changes and other small stuff (strut had some stuff i wanted to get in for 4 but got pinched for time and demand amongst other small changed) any change from 4 to 4.1 I will list so people can make their own changes to V4 so as to update their roster w/o having to change stamina or interupt their seasons too much.

Ja- I didnt DL V4 yet so I didnt get a chance to look but were those 4 or 5 players added yet? Lamb and those guys? Ill keep getting stances/motions and send them to you and Dean(i assume?) for v4.1. Hustlin I think is gonna do us all a solid and do the FRANCHISE file for V4.1 as well.

[grgmths1433]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

Ja- I didnt DL V4 yet so I didnt get a chance to look but were those 4 or 5 players added yet? Lamb and those guys? Ill keep getting stances/motions and send them to you and Dean(i assume?) for v4.1. Hustlin I think is gonna do us all a solid and do the FRANCHISE file for V4.1 as well.

no they didnt make it in.

[strut24]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

no they didnt make it in.

I dont do CAPS but someone should add them for v4.1