2012 OSFM: Seattle Mariners

[seanjeezy]

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On Sanchez BA has him at 92-94 and says he's been the best pitching prospect in Venezuela since he was 13. Advanced feel, loose arm, athletic.

All things I love. He could be a fast mover. Love him (although I haven't seen a pitch from him) lol

If the word is he has advanced polish for his age then he is B then
My one major gripe with this game is there is no way to accurately portray boom or bust prospects like pimentel or the majority of teenage IFAs, but if sanchez is that ahead of the curve, then no worries lol

[TheKnack]

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Haven't seen much gameplay but have seen Ackley's stance and thought it was crap, last year there wasn't a good option so i might just have to make due.

I found an OUTSTANDING stance for Ackley in the 11' game. I'll find it again tonight and let you guys know.

[848]

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You guysdid an amazing job on the Ms minors last year, can't wait to play with them

[12]

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I found an OUTSTANDING stance for Ackley in the 11' game. I'll find it again tonight and let you guys know.

Please do... Because it's true that the stance they gave him this year is not good.

[WazzuRC]

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So let's do it big for the M's...

A's for everyone!!

Seriously though, if you guys need help let me know. I was so geeked reading/watching gameplay and improvements, I sort of neglected to offer a helping hand in the OSFM.

[TheKnack]

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Please do... Because it's true that the stance they gave him this year is not good.

Ok, in MLB 11 it was called Generic 9... hopefully its the same number in 12

[TheKnack]

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Gimme some feedback when you try it too

[12]

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Hopefully RunAndShoot and I will be coordinating how we're going to pass the roster file back and forth tonight.

We definitely need some organization... I have created both Paxton and Hultzen as 'A' prospects. Their pitch repertoire should be spot on, but I am admittedly TERRIBLE with faces... I can get it respectable, but hopefully someone here can help. I think ARoid did most of the M's faces last year and his work is spot on.

I got some house projects to work on today but will check back here throughout the day. Hopefully I'll hear from RunAndShoot soon and we'll go from there.

I think once we get some organization, this thing will move quick as far as getting the right guys in with their correct potentials... But for now, I agree with his potential grades. 3 A's, a handful of B's, and the rest will be mostly C's and D's.

I'll try that stance out for Ackley, Cougars.

Wazzu, I'll also let you know via PM if you can help out. Thanks for being willing!

[12]

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Just thinking out loud here...

'A' Potential:

Taijuan Walker, RHP
Danny Hultzen, LHP
James Paxton, LHP

'B' Potential:

Nick Franklin, SS
Francisco Martinez, 3B
Vincent Catricala, LF/3B
Victor Sanchez, RHP

Sandwiched between 'B' and 'C' Potential - up for discussion/debate

Carter Capps, RHP
Guillermo Pimentel, LF/RF
Phillips Castillo, LF/RF
Brad Miller, SS
Stephen Pryor, RHP

The argument can be made that Catricala should be in this list as well. Same could be said Sanchez.

Our system is top heavy with very good to elite level pitching prospects (I've read that Walker, Hultzen and Paxton could all end up being legit ace's). Then there is Franklin, who is considered a good to very good prospect with some plus tools. After that, it's shaky. Our system, on an offensive side, is pretty weak. It's the pitching that makes this is a good farm system and I would like to think that we want to reward that. But realistically, and trying to be as unbiased as possible, I think we only have six or seven prospects that should be in that 'A' and 'B' range. That still equals a good system, but the drop off is significant and for many of the system's younger bats (Pimentel, Castillo, Martinez, etc) a 'B' potential can't really be justified, IMO.

My suggestion is that we get solid on our 'A' (already done, I believe - the three-headed-monster) and 'B' (a little murkier) level prospects. Once we do that, I think this will move pretty fast.

[jeshuabuchanan]

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Just thinking out loud here...

'A' Potential:

Taijuan Walker, RHP
Danny Hultzen, LHP
James Paxton, LHP

'B' Potential:

Nick Franklin, SS
Francisco Martinez, 3B
Vincent Catricala, LF/3B
Victor Sanchez, RHP

Sandwiched between 'B' and 'C' Potential - up for discussion/debate

Carter Capps, RHP
Guillermo Pimentel, LF/RF
Phillips Castillo, LF/RF
Brad Miller, SS
Stephen Pryor, RHP

The argument can be made that Catricala should be in this list as well. Same could be said Sanchez.

Our system is top heavy with very good to elite level pitching prospects (I've read that Walker, Hultzen and Paxton could all end up being legit ace's). Then there is Franklin, who is considered a good to very good prospect with some plus tools. After that, it's shaky. Our system, on an offensive side, is pretty weak. It's the pitching that makes this is a good farm system and I would like to think that we want to reward that. But realistically, and trying to be as unbiased as possible, I think we only have six or seven prospects that should be in that 'A' and 'B' range. That still equals a good system, but the drop off is significant and for many of the system's younger bats (Pimentel, Castillo, Martinez, etc) a 'B' potential can't really be justified, IMO.

My suggestion is that we get solid on our 'A' (already done, I believe - the three-headed-monster) and 'B' (a little murkier) level prospects. Once we do that, I think this will move pretty fast.

Just a thought fellas...where do we have Carlos Triunfel rated at? Low B was my thought..

[12]

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Just a thought fellas...where do we have Carlos Triunfel rated at? Low B was my thought..

IMO... He was a B last year. He's still young at 22, but I don't think he's done enough to stay as a B and I think he should be a solid C at this point.

[BlingBlaine]

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Carlos guillen just retired this morning

[jeshuabuchanan]

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IMO... He was a B last year. He's still young at 22, but I don't think he's done enough to stay as a B and I think he should be a solid C at this point.

Solid thought....being a little biased you'd love to see a guy like Triunfel be a little higher than that, but with the Mariners luck, why would we expect anything different from one of top prospects...haha.

Apostle, I'm a little new at this but is there anyway to get real photos of these guys in these rosters or not?

JB

[DaronAndrew]

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I'm having trouble seeing Paxton as an A. I know his numbers were sick last year (especially his K rates, along with Walker's). But he doesn't strike me as being an A (phenom) type prospect. Quite frankly neither does Hulzten...but I feel better about the #2 overall pick being an A than a 4th rounder. I know, that really shouldn't have much bearing on their potential...but there is a disparity in value there, even if it's...eh, a little subjective.

I feel more comfortable with him in the B grouping, leaving Hulzten & Walker as our lone A's. I understand if the majority doesn't agree. I'm interested to see discussion, though.

Franklin seems to me to be the only sure fire B position player. Catricala is a cusp guy, but he's got to have earned it with his numbers. I could see Pimintel there. Fransisco Martinez is on the cusp of B-dom along with Castillo, but as Apostle pointed out, it's tough to justify a B rating for these younger bats. I think objectively, Pimintel is probably seen to have the highest ceiling out of all these guys.

This is how I see the top of the system

A
Taijuan Walker
Danny Hultzen

B
James Paxton
Nick Franklin
Guillermo Pimintel
Vincent Catricala
Victor Sanchez

C
Phillips Castillo
Fransisco Martinez
Carter Capps
Carlos Triunfel
Brad Miller
John Hicks

etc...

[jeshuabuchanan]

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I'm having trouble seeing Paxton as an A. I know his numbers were sick last year (especially his K rates, along with Walker's). But he doesn't strike me as being an A (phenom) type prospect. Quite frankly neither does Hulzten...but I feel better about the #2 overall pick being an A than a 4th rounder. I know, that really shouldn't have much bearing on their potential...but there is a disparity in value there, even if it's...eh, a little subjective.

I feel more comfortable with him in the B grouping, leaving Hulzten & Walker as our lone A's. I understand if the majority doesn't agree. I'm interested to see discussion, though.

Franklin seems to me to be the only sure fire B position player. Catricala is a cusp guy, but he's got to have earned it with his numbers. I could see Pimintel there. Fransisco Martinez is on the cusp of B-dom along with Castillo, but as Apostle pointed out, it's tough to justify a B rating for these younger bats. I think objectively, Pimintel is probably seen to have the highest ceiling out of all these guys.

This is how I see the top of the system

A
Taijuan Walker
Danny Hultzen

B
James Paxton
Nick Franklin
Guillermo Pimintel
Vincent Catricala
Victor Sanchez

C
Phillips Castillo
Fransisco Martinez
Carter Capps
Carlos Triunfel
Brad Miller
John Hicks

etc...

All very valid points Daron! Another little bit of food for thought. Any thoughts on Jack Marder? He might be a fun one to throw in...I know he's young and was just drafted last year, but this could be someone that would be cool to have in the game as a future catcher if we are going deep into franchise mode or RTTS