The 30-Team Control Guide

[nymetsrock1992]

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This is awesome thank you for putting this together!

[KomicJ]

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Anyone else make 30 profiles. It's little more work but I feel it helps control trading during the season,

Basically I made 30 profiles named after each team(BOS, BAL, NYY, etc) assign them to each team. I keep trades/waivers/free agency to manual and only change to them to auto during July when a team falls out of contention and the team status changes to rebuild. Then change back to manual after the trade deadline.

I find that this helps control the bad trades when a team in contention trades a way a big name.

If you wanna go by this trading rules, wouldn't it be simpler to just set two different CPU profiles; on where CPU have trades/waivers/free agency to manual, and a second one with them to auto. That way, you wouldn't have to edit the profile settings of all those teams out of contention individually, you could just assign that profile via the "Settings File Association".

Not saying your way doesn't work, because it does...but it'll save you a lot of time in my opinion.

Plus, I assume you're doing this because you don't wanna have to look at pending trades every day prior to July...but if you do it anyway (or even if you do it only in July), I'm not sure I get the point of doing all that change, as you could just put trades to manual for ALL 30 teams (so kind of an non-trade season) then switch it back to auto in July for all 30-team, and regulate the trades via "Pending Trades".

But I'm curious. If you only set to auto the teams that are out of contention, how does that affect the trading market ? Do these teams only trades between each other (because I assume the ones on Manual don't have anyone on the trading block). So just a bunch of team trying to build for the future swapping prospects ? Or do the other team still receive offers ? If so, doesn't that force you to consult the Pending Trades on a daily basis anyway, since you'll have to aprove those manual trading teams ?

[Threeebs]

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Point is, yes, you can change the default profile back to manual. But I'm not sure it has anything to do with which team's screen you're gonna get as default, as for me, it's always showing the last one I was on, regardless of the profile assigned to that team. If I save/quit the franchise while in control of my team, then it'll be my team as default. But if, for some reason, I save/quit while on the Braves page, then Braves it is. The profile assigned in the CPU File Association has nothing to do with that, it's just saying this team should be managed by those rules, that's it.

I really think it does. I totally get that which ever team you save on is the team shown when you reload but during franchise play, when toggling through different screens like league leaders and free agents and what not, when you back out of those screens, it doesn't go back to the team you were just on, but rather it goes back to the default team screen. and if you have the CPU profile as default, it would then back out to Baltimore's screen every time, which I would find rather annoying sifting back to my team every time, thus the reasoning behind me asking these questions. Thanks for taking time out to respond to my questions...

[KomicJ]

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I really think it does. I totally get that which ever team you save on is the team shown when you reload but during franchise play, when toggling through different screens like league leaders and free agents and what not, when you back out of those screens, it doesn't go back to the team you were just on, but rather it goes back to the default team screen. and if you have the CPU profile as default, it would then back out to Baltimore's screen every time, which I would find rather annoying sifting back to my team every time, thus the reasoning behind me asking these questions. Thanks for taking time out to respond to my questions...

But see, it's this part that I don't get.

When I visit those screen, it's not like I'm "going out" of team management...I can still see the logo of the team I was on (either mine, or a CPU team if I was scouting their team) on the upper right corner when I visit all those sections you're referring to. So there's no "coming back" from them. I visit those screen as the Rockies, once I'm done looking at them...I'm still the Rockies. I never "left" the team I was on, I'm looking at these screen "as them".

[ktd1976]

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Anyone else make 30 profiles. It's little more work but I feel it helps control trading during the season,

Basically I made 30 profiles named after each team(BOS, BAL, NYY, etc) assign them to each team. I keep trades/waivers/free agency to manual and only change to them to auto during July when a team falls out of contention and the team status changes to rebuild. Then change back to manual after the trade deadline.

I find that this helps control the bad trades when a team in contention trades a way a big name.

The problem with doing this, is this:

If you ONLY change trading to auto for the teams that fall out of contention, then ONLY those teams will propose trades. The contending teams will not propose any trades, because trading is set to manual. Furthermore, the contending teams, if offered a trade, will not accept it automatically, because it is set to manual.

I find it much easier to use only two profiles, and change trades to auto towards the end of June, for the CPU teams. Then just moniter the pending transactions, and get rid of any trade that doesn't seem realistic (IE a contending team trading away a key player having a good season)

[myeags]

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I will get a pop up when a trade is proposed to a manual contender so I can review it. Where if I put every team on auto with only having 2 profiles then I am forced to monitor all teams trading activity.

There's not an easy way to do it but I'm a casual gamer so I just try to minimize a playoff team trading away an elite player. I don't care if the non contending teams trade between each other, I never saw the Toronto-Miami deal coming so you can never predict life. In the end it's just a game, I was just wondering what people

[ktd1976]

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I will get a pop up when a trade is proposed to a manual contender so I can review it. Where if I put every team on auto with only having 2 profiles then I am forced to monitor all teams trading activity.

There's not an easy way to do it but I'm a casual gamer so I just try to minimize a playoff team trading away an elite player. I don't care if the non contending teams trade between each other, I never saw the Toronto-Miami deal coming so you can never predict life. In the end it's just a game, I was just wondering what people

Right, but with the profile set to Manual, those contending teams will NOT propose trades themselves. Not very realistic

[BrianM207]

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Hey all....quick question.....

This is my first attempt at 30 team control. I dont so much care about line ups or 100% correct 25 man rosters....I just used it for injury sake and whatever happens in the franchise happens....

Ok, onto my question....I have it set up so my human profile is conrolling my team(Mets)and the cpu profile controlling the other 29(with everything set to auto)....My question is, with that set up, will I still get random trade offers from the cpu, or would I have to initiate it?

Thanks

[KomicJ]

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Hey all....quick question.....

This is my first attempt at 30 team control. I dont so much care about line ups or 100% correct 25 man rosters....I just used it for injury sake and whatever happens in the franchise happens....

Ok, onto my question....I have it set up so my human profile is conrolling my team(Mets)and the cpu profile controlling the other 29(with everything set to auto)....My question is, with that set up, will I still get random trade offers from the cpu, or would I have to initiate it?

Thanks

If your CPU profile has everything on auto, including trades, then yes, you should/could be receiving offers from the CPU (and could also control every trades in the league, if you go through the pending trades section daily).

[BrianM207]

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If your CPU profile has everything on auto, including trades, then yes, you should/could be receiving offers from the CPU (and could also control every trades in the league, if you go through the pending trades section daily).

Thanks man. Although, I have no interest in being involved w/ cpu to cpu trades, good to know I could. Appreciate it.

[BrianM207]

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Ok, I guess I have a "part 2" to my question.....

Although I have everything set to auto on the teams that I'm not controlling, it seems as though there are no trades being accepted....As an example...

I proposed a trade to the Yankees...It had been over a week(in the shows calender not IRL)and they had yet to accept or reject....I went to my screan to see if it was still pending and it was...I toggled over to the Yankees screan and had to manually choose reject(it was an unfair trade that they wouldnt have accepted, I was doing it to test it out)While there I saw they had 2 more un resolved trades.....Do I have to accept/reject for all teams????? I really dont want to and hope I just have something set up wrong...Any help would be great. Thanks guys

[Threeebs]

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Ok, I guess I have a "part 2" to my question.....

Although I have everything set to auto on the teams that I'm not controlling, it seems as though there are no trades being accepted....As an example...

I proposed a trade to the Yankees...It had been over a week(in the shows calender not IRL)and they had yet to accept or reject....I went to my screan to see if it was still pending and it was...I toggled over to the Yankees screan and had to manually choose reject(it was an unfair trade that they wouldnt have accepted, I was doing it to test it out)While there I saw they had 2 more un resolved trades.....Do I have to accept/reject for all teams????? I really dont want to and hope I just have something set up wrong...Any help would be great. Thanks guys

I wish someone would have answered you by now lmao. I was waiting on a response myself because I think I have an idea of what you're problem is. It may have something to do with what I've been asking around this thread.

Which of the 2 profiles do you have set as default? I ask because I was told that whichever profile you want the other 29 teams to follow is the one you must have set as default. But on this thread I was told that it didn't matter which profile was set as default. If you have your personal profile set as default then that may be the reason no trades are being initiated without your guiding hand...

[KomicJ]

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Ok, I guess I have a "part 2" to my question.....

Although I have everything set to auto on the teams that I'm not controlling, it seems as though there are no trades being accepted....As an example...

I proposed a trade to the Yankees...It had been over a week(in the shows calender not IRL)and they had yet to accept or reject....I went to my screan to see if it was still pending and it was...I toggled over to the Yankees screan and had to manually choose reject(it was an unfair trade that they wouldnt have accepted, I was doing it to test it out)While there I saw they had 2 more un resolved trades.....Do I have to accept/reject for all teams????? I really dont want to and hope I just have something set up wrong...Any help would be great. Thanks guys

When creating your franchise (in the Mode Entry Option), did you leave:
CPU Roster Control OFF
CPU Trading ON

Because if you didn't, that might be the cause of your problem. Also, make sure your profile are correctly assigned to all the 29 teams (User Settings / Settings File Association) and that the profile used for them does in fact have everything set to Auto.

The only other thing I can see: if your near the deadline, and that the team you're trying to deal with is pretty active, they might take longer to answer, and if they traded in meantime, this might change their initial feeling about the deal. That happened to me, while I was running some tests for this issue, where the other team was telling me the deal was okay...but then simmed about a week, only to realize that my proposed trade wasn't in the pending trades section anymore...went through my emails, looks like they have rejected it a couple of days later (and you only get an email, not a popup).

Unfortunately, if that still doesn't solve your issue, I have no idea why. Works perfectly here.

I wish someone would have answered you by now lmao. I was waiting on a response myself because I think I have an idea of what you're problem is. It may have something to do with what I've been asking around this thread.

Which of the 2 profiles do you have set as default? I ask because I was told that whichever profile you want the other 29 teams to follow is the one you must have set as default. But on this thread I was told that it didn't matter which profile was set as default. If you have your personal profile set as default then that may be the reason no trades are being initiated without your guiding hand...

Yeah, took me a day, sorry. I also do other things in life...

Again...the only reason why some suggest to put your CPU profile by default is so you won't have to change 29 teams profile when creating the franchise. It has no effect after that (at least, not for trading, nor anything else that I'm aware of). Each team is being controlled the way you set it up in the "Settings File Association". If the CPU profile is assigned, then that team is managed that way. If the Human profile is assigned, then Human settings it is. By having one or the other as default doesn't change anything.

Ran a couple of tests (both with Human and CPU profile set as defeault) and had no problem.

With CPU Profile as Default: My Rockies traded Chacin to CPU's Baltimore for Hammel, got an answer the next day after proposal. CPU also initiated and completed deals. CPU's Braves traded Juan Jaime to Cleveland for Lindor, Bauer and Polino (this is a good exemple why regulating CPU trades might be a good idea).

With Human Profile as Default: My Rockies traded Wilin Rosario to Boston for Saltalamacchia, got accepted the next day. CPU was also able to initiate trades. Rays traded Cesar Ramos and Alex Cobb to Chicago for Shawn Camp and Javier Baez.

But then again, you don't HAVE TO change default profile. You actually brought this up because you had a problem (which I never understood and that nobody else seems to have) in which you would come back to the Orioles after browsing some menus (which never happened to me, no matter which profile is set to default).

[BrianM207]

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I have my human profile as default and set to my team(Mets), all the others have the cpu profile with everything set to auto.

A trade did happen yesterday though between Baltimore and Philly...maybe the other teams are just taking a while to respind to each other...maybe it always takes that long with cpu to cpu trades...I never bothered to look at pending trades in the past, as I never tried 30 team control...

Thanks for the insight, imput, and opinions all

[Threeebs]

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When creating your franchise (in the Mode Entry Option), did you leave:

CPU Roster Control OFF
CPU Trading ON

Because if you didn't, that might be the cause of your problem. Also, make sure your profile are correctly assigned to all the 29 teams (User Settings / Settings File Association) and that the profile used for them does in fact have everything set to Auto.

The only other thing I can see: if your near the deadline, and that the team you're trying to deal with is pretty active, they might take longer to answer, and if they traded in meantime, this might change their initial feeling about the deal. That happened to me, while I was running some tests for this issue, where the other team was telling me the deal was okay...but then simmed about a week, only to realize that my proposed trade wasn't in the pending trades section anymore...went through my emails, looks like they have rejected it a couple of days later (and you only get an email, not a popup).

Unfortunately, if that still doesn't solve your issue, I have no idea why. Works perfectly here.



Yeah, took me a day, sorry. I also do other things in life...

Again...the only reason why some suggest to put your CPU profile by default is so you won't have to change 29 teams profile when creating the franchise. It has no effect after that (at least, not for trading, nor anything else that I'm aware of). Each team is being controlled the way you set it up in the "Settings File Association". If the CPU profile is assigned, then that team is managed that way. If the Human profile is assigned, then Human settings it is. By having one or the other as default doesn't change anything.

Ran a couple of tests (both with Human and CPU profile set as defeault) and had no problem.

With CPU Profile as Default: My Rockies traded Chacin to CPU's Baltimore for Hammel, got an answer the next day after proposal. CPU also initiated and completed deals. CPU's Braves traded Juan Jaime to Cleveland for Lindor, Bauer and Polino (this is a good exemple why regulating CPU trades might be a good idea).

With Human Profile as Default: My Rockies traded Wilin Rosario to Boston for Saltalamacchia, got accepted the next day. CPU was also able to initiate trades. Rays traded Cesar Ramos and Alex Cobb to Chicago for Shawn Camp and Javier Baez.

But then again, you don't HAVE TO change default profile. You actually brought this up because you had a problem (which I never understood and that nobody else seems to have) in which you would come back to the Orioles after browsing some menus (which never happened to me, no matter which profile is set to default).

LOL when I said I wish someone would have answered you by now I didn't necessarily mean you. There are many others knowledgeable of 30 team control I'm sure. Your replies to me were helpful and I never said I had the screen problem, In fact I've never even attempted the 30 team control yet. I just assumed that's what would happen because I'm used to seeing 1 team control. I realized after posting back and forth with you that because you are in fact controlling 30 teams, this wouldn't happen. I usually figure things out for myself but I've been so busy I was trying to get a head start and gather all the info I can about 30 team control.

When he mentioned his problem, which turned out not to be a problem, I thought maybe this was a possiblility.