Classic Teams

[Joey]

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Downloaded onto the Vita before I left this morning but I believe my battery is about dead. Hope there's enough juice to check it out at lunch. Thanks for all your work!

[Billy...a_kid]

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Hey Man,

can't get away without telling you how awesome all the assembly you did was. These rosters are awesome. Just out of curiousity, why do some teams only have 24 players per roster? The '86 Mets for example, I know they had Lee Mazzilli later in the year and I was wondering if that was meant that way of if something went wrong in the file transfer to cause a player to be gone. I noticed a few teams only had 24.

I also know you didn't make a lot of these, but my personal major glitch so far is the naming thing. Strawberry for Sternberry? Beckhman for Backman? Clement for Clemente. I don't know, but I think it is almost a peronal insult towards daryl strawberry to have him announced as Sternberry. It isn't his name. Not a complain AT you, the guys 2 years ago did that as well when assembling a roster like this, but I would much rather have "Now batting, RF #18" then to have him called by a name which clearly isn't his. Personal beef, but it just makes the whole thing silly.

Anyway, name issue aside, I likey-likey this roster! If other plalyers like Joe Morgan being a RH instead of LH are spotted, do you want to have them listed for correction? Big-Red vs. M&M, or Bronx Zoo vs. "This IS next year", We are family vs. The Miracles. The choices, the choices, and not a bad one among them!

Thanks again!

[bostongahden]

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Thanks and my pleasure! Ya know Billy I didn't even look at most of the the announced names and I agree. I didn't put them there.I was changing the players announced names that I had edited. Thanks for picking that up. Just list the ones you find and I'll fix them.As far as the 23/24 man rosters, I just wanted to get the roster out as quickly as I could so I only created enough player to make the rosters viable (usually 13 position players minimum and 10-11 pitchers). I only made between 50-70 players.

If you or anyone else that has DL'ed this roster see imperfections please let me know. A second pair of eyes is always great so list away and I'll put out a v1.1. I have my first playoff bracket set up for these and I can't wait to get at it!

[lhslancers]

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Thanks! Ya know Billy I didn't even look at most of the the announced names and I agree. I didn't put them there.I was changing the players announced names that I had edited. Thanks for picking that up. Just list the ones you find and I'll fix them.As far as the 23/24 man rosters, I just wanted to get the roster out as quickly as I could so I only created enough player to make the rosters viable (usually 13 position players minimum and 10-11 pitchers). I only made between 50-70 players. A second pair of eyes is always great so list away and I'll put out a v1.1.

I imagine that unless a name is already in the game log you cannot get the announcers to call him properly right? Something that drives me crazy with the way the game handles these types of rosters is the fact that all the stats show 0. Is there any way to get career totals to show instead of 0? BTW nice job on these.

[bostongahden]

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Well, these roster are everything I had hoped for. Here is my AL Wildcard game between the '70 Orioles and '68 Tigers. I was using the O's.




In the 4th, Jim Northrup led off with a single and things could have gotten out of hand after Cash drove him in with a two run shot to right.Al Kaline then followed with a one out triple. However, Palmer settled down to retire the next two hitters in this classic pitching duel between two HOFers. Palmer pitched into the 8th and was brilliant in the victory.

It looked as though McClain would cruise as he had the Orioles hitters handcuffed throughout most of the game until Elrod Hendricks took him over and out to right with a solo blast. The Orioles' seventh inning rally was ignited by Frank Robinson's single with no one out. That ended the day for McClain and brought Lasher into the fray. Then Brooks Robinson evened the ledger lining a single down the right field line to plate Frank. That set the stage for Merv Rettenmund's game winning double to left center. Check out the highlights below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G_k6Ov4fnU&feature=youtu.be

Next up, the NL Wildcard game between the '67 Cardinals and the '54 Giants,

[bostongahden]

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Well, these roster are everything I had hoped for. Here is my AL Wildcard game between the '70 Orioles and '68 Tigers. I was using the O's.



In the 4th, things could have easily gotten out of hand. Jim Northrup led off with a single and was driven in courtesy of Cash's homer. Al Kaline then followed with a triple. However, Palmer settled down to retire the next two hitters in this classic pitching duel between two HOFers. Palmer pitched into the 8th and was brilliant in the victory.

It looked as though McClain would cruise as he had the Orioles hitters handcuffed throughout most of the game until Elrod Hendricks took him over and out to right. The Orioles' seventh inning rally was ignited by Frank Robinson's single with no one out. That ended the day for McClain and brought Lasher into the fray. Brooks Robinson promptly evened the ledger lining a single down the right field line to score Frank. This set the stage for Merv Rettenmund's game winning double to left center. The Tigers would threaten with a runner on second and two outs. Eddie Watt set pinch hitter Gates Brown down swinging to save it for the Orioles. Check out the highlights below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G_k6Ov4fnU&feature=youtu.be

The NL Wildcard is up next with the '67 Cardinals vs the '54 Giants.

[Joey]

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Hey man, I see you're having issues with getting your post to show right. I'd you try it again, don't click Show Preview. Sometimes that messes it up.

[bostongahden]

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More than one way to skin a cat, Joey. Got things fixed up so check out my previous post. The tables wouldn't work.

[capa]

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Don Buford was a switch hitter...should have been hitting lefty against the righty. Highlights looked great though.

[bostongahden]

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Great! Thanks Capa. I coped that whole team over. Keep 'em comin'.

[Billy...a_kid]

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HA, I just noticed there is no "r" in garden for your screen name.

Ok, so I went through and changed some teams so that the ones I want are in the majors. You had said you were going to relax and hit up some time with these rosters, but I am just wondering how. When I went to start a "Season" (so only 15 minor leaguers) the '57 Braves promoted a lot of the '95 team, which had been in the Single-A team.

How do you get "just" the teams you want? Do you have to clear the roster of all others except the MLB team? I guess I am confused on how to do this now. For the life of me, I cannot understand why they have a roster vault, a player vault, but NOT a team vault. It seems like such a laborious project to now have to "cut" all 65 minor leaguers for each team.

Is there an easier way to do it?

I did also see a few errors, but I didn't write them (I need to start that) down. Sid Fernandez is a RH in-roster, but was a L/L in reality...that one I remembered.

(personal beef, too, for whomever made these originally; Cullen for Gullett? Garmano for Geronimo? Are people using these partially deaf? It is so silly to hear this stuff!)

[bostongahden]

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HA, I just noticed there is no "r" in garden for your screen name.

Ok, so I went through and changed some teams so that the ones I want are in the majors. You had said you were going to relax and hit up some time with these rosters, but I am just wondering how. When I went to start a "Season" (so only 15 minor leaguers) the '57 Braves promoted a lot of the '95 team, which had been in the Single-A team.

How do you get "just" the teams you want? Do you have to clear the roster of all others except the MLB team? I guess I am confused on how to do this now. For the life of me, I cannot understand why they have a roster vault, a player vault, but NOT a team vault. It seems like such a laborious project to now have to "cut" all 65 minor leaguers for each team.

Is there an easier way to do it?

I did also see a few errors, but I didn't write them (I need to start that) down. Sid Fernandez is a RH in-roster, but was a L/L in reality...that one I remembered.

(personal beef, too, for whomever made these originally; Cullen for Gullett? Garmano for Geronimo? Are people using these partially deaf? It is so silly to hear this stuff!)

Easiest thing to do if you are using the "AAA" or "AA" selections for a franchise is to load the roster and go to manage roster and then swap out the MLB players with the "farm team" players you want. Then save the roster again as Classic Team 2 or something so you won't have to do it again. Once you enter season mode, you shouldn't have players being called up if you select control all teams when setting up your season as the rosters are only set for 23/25 men. Hope this helps and thanks for the errors on names and Sid. I am seeing some equipment issues and uniform numbers that I just fixed as well. In a week or two I'll put out a second updated version.

[Billy...a_kid]

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That is kind of where the problem is...players are being called up unless the roster is empty. I do take control of all 30 teams through a CPU profile, but with "30-team control" it says it won't acknowledge injuries, and baseball without injuries is just wrong to me.

For example, Maddux, Smoltz, Glavine, Chipper and many others were brought up to the '57 team when starting a "season". It is only for 40 players, but it took the best 40 (even though all of those guys were in the "Single-A" team).

I'm just going to have to dummy all players but the ones I want. I really don't understand why they tie your hands like that.

Also, I have a list of all-time franchise teams...this baby has many many.

The only real differences are a few teams I must have. All of the teams on this roster are post-1960, save 3, and there are a few teams from the first 50 years of baseball I just cannot live without.

The differences are
Yankees = 1927
Red Sox = 1946 (though 1978 is a good one, too)
Tigers = 1961
Twins = 1924 (Senators with Johnson, Goslin, Rice and others)
Athletics = 1929 (again, I've used '89 before, but this team finished ahead of "Murder's Row" 3 straight years...cannot leave them out)
Cubs = 1929 (by far, the best single year for a Cubs team)
Cardinals = 1934 (I've used '85 before, but the "Gas-House Gang" just has too much personality to be left out)

That means I only have to make 7 teams, the other 23 match what you have already put together.

I'm going to do it. Might take a bit, but I am going to make those others!!! Also, piggybacking off your work, if anyone else wants these with only these 30 teams at the MLB level and dummy players everywhere else, I can put in when I'm done.

Ugh, do I really know what I'm in for!

[Joey]

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If you're playing with 25 man rosters how are you going to play with injuries on? Usually teams in classic sets simulate injuries by adjusting the durability of the players who didn't play much in that particular season. When you change the teams out make sure you remove those players from the 40 man. Sounds like you're getting ready to do a lot more work than you need to.

I definitely wouldn't go to the problem of dummying down players. If that's the route you want to go, just save the roster to something else, then remove all the players you don't want. It would be much easier.

[bostongahden]

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If you're playing with 25 man rosters how are you going to play with injuries on? Usually teams in classic sets simulate injuries by adjusting the durability of the players who didn't play much in that particular season. When you change the teams out make sure you remove those players from the 40 man. Sounds like you're getting ready to do a lot more work than you need to.

I definitely wouldn't go to the problem of dummying down players. If that's the route you want to go, just save the roster to something else, then remove all the players you don't want. It would be much easier.

Yeah, you'd be getting into some unnecessary work, Billy. Joey hit on your problem area. Make sure your MLB roster contains only the 25 men you want on the 40 man roster. If extra players remain on the 40 man, then there is a chance that they get called up and ruin your era roster. Also keep your eye on the uniform numbers as some may have to be re-adjusted.