MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

[teeds]

Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

I just took a look at this roster for the first time (I haven't used it before), and the ratings re-rates appear fairly drastic.

I appreciate the hard work of everyone who does these kinds of things for the community, so my questions are really intended to help me learn a little more about how you guys do things, not as criticism.

One question is about fielding ratings: how are those done? The team I'm using in the OSFM rosters is SF, and I watch a lot of their games. Two players who got dinged fielding wise are Crawford, who is elite IRL and in OSFM, and Pagan, who routinely makes great plays in CF. These reductions made me curious, so how exactly are fielding ratings calculated?

The other question is about starter stamina. Flipping through the teams, I see plenty of starters with 50s and 60s stamina. I wonder how that works with QC games and how it was calculated. In QC games with default sliders, a starter with 90s for stamina can go 7 innings on a decent start, a little further on a really good start, but often can also come out after 6 due to fatigue. Guys with 70s stamina in those situations routinely make it through 5, but not much further. So I wonder how guys with 40s and 50s are supposed to make it out of the 3rd inning in-game. Any thoughts on that would be greatly appreciated.

Again, thanks for the hard work, and for fielding the questions.

Crawford is still a very good defensive shortstop in the league but the defensive metrics I looked at on fangraphs (and granted, no surefire metric for defense really exists projection wise) has him trending downward since a peak in 2012. I didn't so much favor a three year average as much as I did current performance when coming up with the ratings. The same explanation basically explains Pagan too.

[tonybologna]

Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

I hate to keep asking the same questions but why aren't offline links/files being provided for these rosters? Is there a link hidden somewhere in the 10 pages of this thread? Surely somebody working on these rosters has the capability of posting offline files. I always look in the 1st post of threads like this for offline files/links. There's always none there.

It was like this with V1 release of this roster set. These are certainly popular rosters so I don't understand why offline files aren't being posted with these updates. Not trying to sound critical but not all gamers have their consoles online. I'm one of those & an offline update would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

[HopiDesertPriest]

Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

I just took a look at this roster for the first time (I haven't used it before), and the ratings re-rates appear fairly drastic.

I appreciate the hard work of everyone who does these kinds of things for the community, so my questions are really intended to help me learn a little more about how you guys do things, not as criticism.

One question is about fielding ratings: how are those done? The team I'm using in the OSFM rosters is SF, and I watch a lot of their games. Two players who got dinged fielding wise are Crawford, who is elite IRL and in OSFM, and Pagan, who routinely makes great plays in CF. These reductions made me curious, so how exactly are fielding ratings calculated?

The other question is about starter stamina. Flipping through the teams, I see plenty of starters with 50s and 60s stamina. I wonder how that works with QC games and how it was calculated. In QC games with default sliders, a starter with 90s for stamina can go 7 innings on a decent start, a little further on a really good start, but often can also come out after 6 due to fatigue. Guys with 70s stamina in those situations routinely make it through 5, but not much further. So I wonder how guys with 40s and 50s are supposed to make it out of the 3rd inning in-game. Any thoughts on that would be greatly appreciated.

Again, thanks for the hard work, and for fielding the questions.

you make good points.

[mdsportsfan1122]

Hey guys I have a problem maybe someone can help me with. I had a franchise going for my orioles and now I downloaded the new roster just put up and when I started a new franchise it's using old rosters en an though I picked the new roster for my franchise. Does anyone know something iam not doing right. Thanks

[Willard76]

Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

Would it be possible for you guys to give an idea of how to scale different ratings when editing draftee's?

"If SCEA rates their contactvR @75, decrease to 61" or

"If SCEA rates running speed x, decrease by 11%"

So we would have a better idea of how to nerf the new draftclasses?

Honestly, lower them how you want to at least be in the 50s - I would say take 10 off to start of everything then play with the ratings from there.

I personally go in and fix the faces and, if I feel energetic create missing prospects from the roster

I just took a look at this roster for the first time (I haven't used it before), and the ratings re-rates appear fairly drastic.

I appreciate the hard work of everyone who does these kinds of things for the community, so my questions are really intended to help me learn a little more about how you guys do things, not as criticism.

One question is about fielding ratings: how are those done? The team I'm using in the OSFM rosters is SF, and I watch a lot of their games. Two players who got dinged fielding wise are Crawford, who is elite IRL and in OSFM, and Pagan, who routinely makes great plays in CF. These reductions made me curious, so how exactly are fielding ratings calculated?

The other question is about starter stamina. Flipping through the teams, I see plenty of starters with 50s and 60s stamina. I wonder how that works with QC games and how it was calculated. In QC games with default sliders, a starter with 90s for stamina can go 7 innings on a decent start, a little further on a really good start, but often can also come out after 6 due to fatigue. Guys with 70s stamina in those situations routinely make it through 5, but not much further. So I wonder how guys with 40s and 50s are supposed to make it out of the 3rd inning in-game. Any thoughts on that would be greatly appreciated.

Again, thanks for the hard work, and for fielding the questions.

So yes the ratings drops are drastic in some cases - but basically by using one very solid stats base, the roster is uniform so that every player we had stats for plays on an equal level. I still remember when I did this last year for the first time I nearly crapped myself when I first started changing ratings and saw the Overalls after - but when you apply it to one of my first posts in the Hybrid V1 thread - it really puts things in perspective - of course some of the players look weird because of the ratings weights on overall based by positions.

I saw teeds answered your questions about the fielding and I will answer the Stamina one.

If you are using Metered Pitching - it depends on how often you max a pitcher out with full power on pitches how long they will last. If you use the recommended sliders and change Starting Pitcher Stamina to 7 and Reliever to 2 - they should last normal amounts. Stamina in the game is there to measure innings pitched

I hate to keep asking the same questions but why aren't offline links/files being provided for these rosters? Is there a link hidden somewhere in the 10 pages of this thread? Surely somebody working on these rosters has the capability of posting offline files. I always look in the 1st post of threads like this for offline files/links. There's always none there.

It was like this with V1 release of this roster set. These are certainly popular rosters so I don't understand why offline files aren't being posted with these updates. Not trying to sound critical but not all gamers have their consoles online. I'm one of those & an offline update would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

Offline links are difficult this year because of the USB issue on the Ps4 - plus I have been just super busy with this thing, work and family. I will get you an offline link shortly

Hey guys I have a problem maybe someone can help me with. I had a franchise going for my orioles and now I downloaded the new roster just put up and when I started a new franchise it's using old rosters en an though I picked the new roster for my franchise. Does anyone know something iam not doing right. Thanks

Are you sure you saved the roster properly or picked the correct roster when starting your franchise? That is all I can think of that would make the happen

[mdsportsfan1122]

Honestly, lower them how you want to at least be in the 50s - I would say take 10 off to start of everything then play with the ratings from there.

I personally go in and fix the faces and, if I feel energetic create missing prospects from the roster



So yes the ratings drops are drastic in some cases - but basically by using one very solid stats base, the roster is uniform so that every player we had stats for plays on an equal level. I still remember when I did this last year for the first time I nearly crapped myself when I first started changing ratings and saw the Overalls after - but when you apply it to one of my first posts in the Hybrid V1 thread - it really puts things in perspective - of course some of the players look weird because of the ratings weights on overall based by positions.

I saw teeds answered your questions about the fielding and I will answer the Stamina one.

If you are using Metered Pitching - it depends on how often you max a pitcher out with full power on pitches how long they will last. If you use the recommended sliders and change Starting Pitcher Stamina to 7 and Reliever to 2 - they should last normal amounts. Stamina in the game is there to measure innings pitched



Offline links are difficult this year because of the USB issue on the Ps4 - plus I have been just super busy with this thing, work and family. I will get you an offline link shortly



Are you sure you saved the roster properly or picked the correct roster when starting your franchise? That is all I can think of that would make the happen

Yes I saved it then when I did my franchise it asked me what roster I wanted. I picked saved went into it and it loaded. But then when the franchise starts it has the old roster ... for instance matt wieters on the new roster is in A ball along with Johan santana. But when I start it has wieters and santana on mlb roster. So It didn't work for some reason. I have been playing the show since 08 and this is the first time this has happened. Btw iam playing this on ps4.

[Willard76]

Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

Here is the offline link

The folder contains both the Hybrid V2 and HybridV2a for the Ps4

https://www.mediafire.com/?i88x9loar3krpfb

[Kevin82485]

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Thanks for your hard work, from what I can tell things look really good, although I will offer this:

I know not to look at overall and that these rosters are based on pre-season ratings, but I laughed at how poorly the Brewers pitching staff was rated, so I gave them a well deserved boost, with the exception of Marco Estrada I made him worse at HR/9, he currently leads the league in HRs allowed, and has been prone to giving up the long ball more often than most throughout his career.

Lastly, I feel Elian Herrera should be listed as a 3B with secondary being OF. Currently, he is listed as only a 2B. Granted the position he has played most in his Minors career is 2B, I don't think he has a future as a 2B. He has mostly played 3B and OF in the Majors. Maybe as a compromise make his primary LF and secondary IF. Also he deserves a 15 point boost in Arm Strength and 10 point boost in Accuracy and Fielding Ability. He has a canon for an arm.

Admittedly I have some bias being a Brewers fan, I watch very nearly every game, but just offering some small suggestions.

Edit: Also Martin Maldonado and Jonathan Lucroy should have 1B as their secondary position.

[Willard76]

Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

Yes I saved it then when I did my franchise it asked me what roster I wanted. I picked saved went into it and it loaded. But then when the franchise starts it has the old roster ... for instance matt wieters on the new roster is in A ball along with Johan santana. But when I start it has wieters and santana on mlb roster. So It didn't work for some reason. I have been playing the show since 08 and this is the first time this has happened. Btw iam playing this on ps4.

They are both on the 40 man still which is why they probably got called up for Spring Training if that's where you are seeing them

[Future Spartan]

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They are both on the 40 man still which is why they probably got called up for Spring Training if that's where you are seeing them

Will there be a 25 man roster or is anyone working on that?

Or back to my original question will there be a 30 team guide like stated in the OP?

[Willard76]

Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

Will there be a 25 man roster or is anyone working on that?

Or back to my original question will there be a 30 team guide like stated in the OP?

Go back a few posts or a page or 2 - someone posted a link to the 30 team guide thread - otherwise I will post what I use once I figure them out again - or you can find it on one of last year's Hybrid threads until then - I put it on the first post on one of the versions - sorry I don't remember them off hand

[Willard76]

Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

If you haven't started your franchise yet - DON'T!!!!!!!!

At least if you are a complete stats nut.

Waittilnextyear has found a way to improve the offensive numbers a tad and has is done on a roster - just waiting for him to put up the roster on here

[sxaalex]

Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

If you haven't started your franchise yet - DON'T!!!!!!!!

At least if you are a complete stats nut.

Waittilnextyear has found a way to improve the offensive numbers a tad and has is done on a roster - just waiting for him to put up the roster on here

Williad can you look in to this accurate rating on Odrisamer Despaigne he rated (74) as relief pitcher.He profile a sp with four average pitches.He currently in Padres AAA team. He Should be rated around in the 60's !
Stamina-40!
Pitching Clutch -54!
H/9 -58 !
HR/9 80!
K/9- 68 !
BB/9-53 !

[The Kid 24]

Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

If you haven't started your franchise yet - DON'T!!!!!!!!

At least if you are a complete stats nut.

Waittilnextyear has found a way to improve the offensive numbers a tad and has is done on a roster - just waiting for him to put up the roster on here

How much of a difference are we talking? Cuz Totte already started the OD project.

Sent from my LG G2

[Kevin82485]

Re: MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

If you haven't started your franchise yet - DON'T!!!!!!!!

At least if you are a complete stats nut.

Waittilnextyear has found a way to improve the offensive numbers a tad and has is done on a roster - just waiting for him to put up the roster on here

Argh, just after I had finished tweeking the roster to my liking! Interested in what was done...