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  • Rod_Carew29
    All Star
    • Apr 2004
    • 7872

    #1

    I Feel Most Starting Pitchers' Stamina Has to Be Lowered

    This is another way to combat the issue of too many of the starters going late into games. I'd say for guys who pitch over 200 innings AND have 2 CG's or more...then they should be at 90 MINIMUM. And you go from there downward...as in under 90.

    Also, the 'hook' feature should be maxed out at 100.

    This combination should help a great deal...provided you're patient and can make the pitcher work.
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  • rudyjuly2
    Cade Cunningham
    • Aug 2002
    • 14815

    #2
    Re: I Feel Most Starting Pitchers' Stamina Has to Be Lowered

    Is this for manage only mode? I personally think they tire too fast for their pitch counts myself.

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    • Rod_Carew29
      All Star
      • Apr 2004
      • 7872

      #3
      Re: Starting Pitchers' Stamina Has to Be Lowered @ rudyjuly

      hmmmm..thats where we may have a problem....I only play my games in real time...no modes, no RTTS, etc....

      so I don't know who manage modes are programmed to work

      Originally posted by rudyjuly2
      Is this for manage only mode? I personally think they tire too fast for their pitch counts myself.
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      • rudyjuly2
        Cade Cunningham
        • Aug 2002
        • 14815

        #4
        Re: I Feel Most Starting Pitchers' Stamina Has to Be Lowered

        I only play all of mine myself and find my starting pitcher gets gassed around 80 pitches or sometimes earlier. I don't know if any pitcher can go 100 pitches without being completely drained at default. The CPU pitcher gets tired too if I take pitches and make him work long. Because the pitch counts are usually a bit lower than reality, its not usually too bad. Just my two cents.

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        • Rod_Carew29
          All Star
          • Apr 2004
          • 7872

          #5
          Re: I Feel Most Starting Pitchers' Stamina Has to Be Lowered @ rudyjuly2

          But isn't manage only mode different than playing vs the CPU in the traditional way?

          Originally posted by rudyjuly2
          I only play all of mine myself and find my starting pitcher gets gassed around 80 pitches or sometimes earlier. I don't know if any pitcher can go 100 pitches without being completely drained at default. The CPU pitcher gets tired too if I take pitches and make him work long. Because the pitch counts are usually a bit lower than reality, its not usually too bad. Just my two cents.
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          • Kohlstar20
            MVP
            • Feb 2005
            • 1034

            #6
            Re: I Feel Most Starting Pitchers' Stamina Has to Be Lowered

            I have noticed that when I play a game my starting pitcher is almost completly gassed around the 75-85 pitch mark just like rudyjuly said however if I simulate some of a game via the sportscast manager and then enter the game to finish playing it my starting pitchers stamina compared to his pitch count is much more realistic for some reason. It is like they don't fatigue as fast while simulating as opposed to playing the games.

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            • Ruffy
              MVP
              • Feb 2008
              • 1516

              #7
              Re: I Feel Most Starting Pitchers' Stamina Has to Be Lowered

              Originally posted by rudyjuly2
              I only play all of mine myself and find my starting pitcher gets gassed around 80 pitches or sometimes earlier. I don't know if any pitcher can go 100 pitches without being completely drained at default. The CPU pitcher gets tired too if I take pitches and make him work long. Because the pitch counts are usually a bit lower than reality, its not usually too bad. Just my two cents.
              Using Knights rosters with stamina edits and am having this precise issue.
              Former Bison, Argonaut, TSN and Sportsnet employee.
              Gaming since the days of the NES, Atari and Intellivision.
              Lifelong Hartford Whaler fan.

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              • Ruffy
                MVP
                • Feb 2008
                • 1516

                #8
                Re: I Feel Most Starting Pitchers' Stamina Has to Be Lowered

                Originally posted by Rod_Carew29
                This is another way to combat the issue of too many of the starters going late into games. I'd say for guys who pitch over 200 innings AND have 2 CG's or more...then they should be at 90 MINIMUM. And you go from there downward...as in under 90.

                Also, the 'hook' feature should be maxed out at 100.

                This combination should help a great deal...provided you're patient and can make the pitcher work.

                If this is the formula....hmm i might make my own adjustments and roster set with stamina edits.

                CG's have shouldnt be the basis if a guy can throw 90+ pitches in my opinion.
                Former Bison, Argonaut, TSN and Sportsnet employee.
                Gaming since the days of the NES, Atari and Intellivision.
                Lifelong Hartford Whaler fan.

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                • eyeamg0dly
                  MVP
                  • May 2009
                  • 1671

                  #9
                  Re: I Feel Most Starting Pitchers' Stamina Has to Be Lowered

                  Originally posted by Kohlstar20
                  I have noticed that when I play a game my starting pitcher is almost completly gassed around the 75-85 pitch mark just like rudyjuly said however if I simulate some of a game via the sportscast manager and then enter the game to finish playing it my starting pitchers stamina compared to his pitch count is much more realistic for some reason. It is like they don't fatigue as fast while simulating as opposed to playing the games.
                  i notice that when you dont go fully into the red on the pitching meter on alot of your pitches, you can go longer. whenever im throwing out of the strike zone i only go into the yellow. its not uncommon for me to go 100 pitches and still have somewhat decent stamina, although not alot. pitches can be manipulated from the point where you release it, which is good for breaking pitches when you dont want to pitch into the red, yet you dont want to hang it up in the zone either.
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                  • RAZRr1275
                    All Star
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 9918

                    #10
                    Re: I Feel Most Starting Pitchers' Stamina Has to Be Lowered

                    Originally posted by Ruffy
                    If this is the formula....hmm i might make my own adjustments and roster set with stamina edits.

                    CG's have shouldnt be the basis if a guy can throw 90+ pitches in my opinion.
                    That isn't the formula. it's a lot more complicated than that
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                    • coreyhartsdaughter
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1107

                      #11
                      Re: I Feel Most Starting Pitchers' Stamina Has to Be Lowered

                      Originally posted by Rod_Carew29
                      This is another way to combat the issue of too many of the starters going late into games. I'd say for guys who pitch over 200 innings AND have 2 CG's or more...then they should be at 90 MINIMUM. And you go from there downward...as in under 90.

                      Also, the 'hook' feature should be maxed out at 100.

                      This combination should help a great deal...provided you're patient and can make the pitcher work.
                      Boy if you guys were in charge of MLB teams, the doctor's bills would be through the roof!

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                      • Ruffy
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 1516

                        #12
                        Re: I Feel Most Starting Pitchers' Stamina Has to Be Lowered

                        Originally posted by RAZRr1275
                        That isn't the formula. it's a lot more complicated than that
                        It must be.

                        Soo complicated yhou have time to troll my posts but not describe the formula you and others used for the edits.

                        It was a simple question.

                        I've searched and can't find it. I figured the guys who did about 600+ player edits must have some idea.

                        I'm being attacked by you in posts when all i asked were simple questions.

                        I had a math teacher once who said 3+3(3x3)= 15.

                        I asked him how he got his answer and he said...I don't know its complicated!


                        Like Rod Carew has said I'm done.

                        I'll adjust them all myself.
                        Former Bison, Argonaut, TSN and Sportsnet employee.
                        Gaming since the days of the NES, Atari and Intellivision.
                        Lifelong Hartford Whaler fan.

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                        • Ruffy
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 1516

                          #13
                          Re: I Feel Most Starting Pitchers' Stamina Has to Be Lowered

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                          Last edited by Ruffy; 06-05-2009, 08:39 PM. Reason: DP..plus im done!
                          Former Bison, Argonaut, TSN and Sportsnet employee.
                          Gaming since the days of the NES, Atari and Intellivision.
                          Lifelong Hartford Whaler fan.

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                          • Rod_Carew29
                            All Star
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 7872

                            #14
                            @ coreyhartsdaughter

                            LMAO

                            Originally posted by coreyhartsdaughter
                            Boy if you guys were in charge of MLB teams, the doctor's bills would be through the roof!
                            For 2017...
                            Don't Call It a Comeback

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                            • RAZRr1275
                              All Star
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 9918

                              #15
                              Re: I Feel Most Starting Pitchers' Stamina Has to Be Lowered

                              Originally posted by Ruffy
                              It must be.

                              Soo complicated yhou have time to troll my posts but not describe the formula you and others used for the edits.

                              It was a simple question.

                              I've searched and can't find it. I figured the guys who did about 600+ player edits must have some idea.

                              I'm being attacked by you in posts when all i asked were simple questions.

                              I had a math teacher once who said 3+3(3x3)= 15.

                              I asked him how he got his answer and he said...I don't know its complicated!


                              Like Rod Carew has said I'm done.

                              I'll adjust them all myself.
                              Attacked? Really? You asked a question and I answered it. I don't know the formula off hand and I'm not looking for the thread. It isn't even just one formula. There are 2-3 possibilities depending on how many starts the guy had. And the thread does still exist. Just search in Rod's posts.
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