What sliders control user pitching strikeouts?

[Nez477]

I'm thinking about trying some of the sliders that are posted here (that's why I signed up in this forum!), but just had a couple specific questions.

First off, I LOVE this game. Secondly, I hate it right now.

I am playing All-Star, guess pitch off, I'm actually not sure what zone hitting is, API on.

I had my sliders somewhere around 6 CPU contact and couldn't strike a soul out. Maybe 3 per game if lucky.

Then I increased the Plate Discipline slider far to the right, and started getting shelled. Every pitch over the plate would be a hit.

So do I just lower the contact? I've been walking around 4-5 batters a game (my control is down) which I feel is pretty realistic, but I'd like to be able to strikeout SOMEONE.

Thoughts?

[storm2383]

Re: What sliders control user pitching strikeouts?

I have the same problem. I just recently quit my red sox season because I couldnt k anyone. I about 5 , 6 starts with each and i didnt even have 20 ks with each except Beckett. He had 22. But i had lots of games where i only had 1 k. And i was around 14-9 i believe. But idk, guess im gonna look for some more realistic sliders cause mine seemed to not be very realistic.

[rudyjuly2]

Re: What sliders control user pitching strikeouts?

There is a big difference between classic pitching and meter pitching. With meter pitching on All-Star, I can set control to 0 and movement to 20 and still get the CPU out regularly including K's. I don't strike out a ton of guys but I average about 6 per game. The lack of hits by the CPU is a bit frustrating at times in the game once you learn your pitchers and how to pitch. I've got their contact at 12 now and my fielder speed at 7 to try to generate more CPU offense. My offense is also low so it doesn't bother me too much. My bullpen can strike out guys regularly. Zumaya averages 1 per inning and Rodney, Mesa and even Todd Jones aren't too far behind.

Strikeouts can be had in many ways - I like to throw a fastball up and in. Sometimes an inside 2 seamer that swings back to nip the corner is great. A back door slider is effective and so is an outside change up if you've set them up with the fastball. Any pitch can be a strikeout pitch depending on how much command a pitcher has with it. Strikeouts happen far more often when you are ahead in the count (0-2, 1-2) as the batter will chase at some bad pitches.

[slthree]

Re: What sliders control user pitching strikeouts?

The contact slider does not impact strikeouts. It impacts the "sweet spot" on the bat. Set it at zero for both user and CPU.

What may impact your ability to strike out the CPU is the cpu's plate awareness slider. decreasing it (moving it to the left) will increase the likelihood that the cpu will swing at more balls.

I play on HOF and can strikeout the CPU with a quality guy like Smoltz 6-8 (8 is really a great day against a bad team) times a game.

[nemesis04]

Re: What sliders control user pitching strikeouts?

What may impact your ability to strike out the CPU is the cpu's plate awareness slider. decreasing it (moving it to the left) will increase the likelihood that the cpu will swing at more balls.

Moving it to the left makes them take more pitches, moving it to the right makes them swing more aggressively.

[cannonchow]

Re: What sliders control user pitching strikeouts?

I agree with nemesis but, I play on All-Star, with a meter, no API, and I usually do ok for myself (5-6 is average, 0-3 walks).
It's more about setting the hitter up in AS mode. Example, you throw a change for a strike and the hitter fouls off a fastball. Throw a breaking pitch away or a pitch that breaks inward o the batter and they swing almost every time for me.
I just got through a game with my KC franchise, Daisuke pitching (yes I trade like a maniac). I got seven K's and and gave up one walk. I use nemesis' sliders, and I had no trouble mowing down the Blue Jays batters, mostly on pure heat inside and either an off speed or huge breaker away....
If you have too many troubles just try to vary your pitches more. It'll come eventually

[slthree]

Re: What sliders control user pitching strikeouts?

Moving it to the left makes them take more pitches, moving it to the right makes them swing more aggressively.

No, I believe I was right and you may be wrong. Here's what the slider definition says:

"Shift this slider to the right to increase the skill of the CPU in taking borderline pitches"

Moving the slider to the right causes the CPU batter to be more selective and swing less at borderline pitches.

Are you saying that the slider explanation is wrong? I know there have been circumstances in the past in various games where the sliders are reversed.

[nemesis04]

Re: What sliders control user pitching strikeouts?

No, I believe I was right and you may be wrong. Here's what the slider definition says:

"Shift this slider to the right to increase the skill of the CPU in taking borderline pitches"

Moving the slider to the right causes the CPU batter to be more selective and swing less at borderline pitches.

Are you saying that the slider explanation is wrong? I know there have been circumstances in the past in various games where the sliders are reversed.

In the ps2 and psp version, the slider reads as follows:

Shift this slider to the right to increase the probability of the cpu batter swinging at borderline pitches.

I have to check the actual wording on the ps3 but I doubt they would switch the slider around.

[TankyTime]

Re: What sliders control user pitching strikeouts?

In the ps2 and psp version, the slider reads as follows:

Shift this slider to the right to increase the probability of the cpu batter swinging at borderline pitches.

I have to check the actual wording on the ps3 but I doubt they would switch the slider around.

Nemesis, he is right in how the slider reads on the PS3. My experience is that when you move it to the left, the cpu swings a little more freely, especially at some bad pitches.

[nemesis04]

Re: What sliders control user pitching strikeouts?

Nemesis, he is right in how the slider reads on the PS3. My experience is that when you move it to the left, the cpu swings a little more freely, especially at some bad pitches.

I noticed them swinging a little more than usual than on the ps2. I thought it was my imagination. Looks like I may have to check the wording on the ps3 version, uggh. Thanks for the heads up TankyTime!

Sorry slthree!

[Rod_Carew29]

is there a play on words between the PS2 and PS3 games?

I'm checking my slider settings for the PS2 version of this game. Is there a play on words between 'swinging' and 'taking'?

I have this slider maxed out to the right. And I've noticed that not all the time, but a lot of times with free swingers (usually guys whose plate vision rating is 60 or less), that if I get ahead of them in the count, I can try throwing a heater up and above the zone, down and in, tight off the plate inside or even a breaking pitch that drops at the very top of the strike zone. The CPU will chase, or the batter will take a called strike three. Sometimes on three consecutive pitches.

No, I believe I was right and you may be wrong. Here's what the slider definition says:

"Shift this slider to the right to increase the skill of the CPU in taking borderline pitches"

Moving the slider to the right causes the CPU batter to be more selective and swing less at borderline pitches.

Are you saying that the slider explanation is wrong? I know there have been circumstances in the past in various games where the sliders are reversed.

[snewn]

Re: What sliders control user pitching strikeouts?

The contact slider does not impact strikeouts. It impacts the "sweet spot" on the bat. Set it at zero for both user and CPU.

What may impact your ability to strike out the CPU is the cpu's plate awareness slider. decreasing it (moving it to the left) will increase the likelihood that the cpu will swing at more balls.

I play on HOF and can strikeout the CPU with a quality guy like Smoltz 6-8 (8 is really a great day against a bad team) times a game.

I'm I missing something here? My PS2 game doesn't have a cpu plate awareness slider. It only has one for Player1 and Player2.

[cable guy]

Re: What sliders control user pitching strikeouts?

I'm I missing something here? My PS2 game doesn't have a cpu plate awareness slider. It only has one for Player1 and Player2.

It may be cpu plate discipline.

[Picci]

Re: What sliders control user pitching strikeouts?

Looking to strike out more Cpu batters? I've had real great results with this set. I play on HOF setting.


1- CPU Batter Plate Discipline: ( I leave mine at default.) However if you lower it, their plate discipline skill drops and they will swing at more bad pitches. I've left it at default to keep it more challenging against the CPU.


2- Human Pitch Speed: (max) When you max this, your pitcher won't throw an extra mph on his pitches but it does help you to differentiate the change of speed against the cpu that's guessing against you. I had similar issues with past versions until I maxed this setting. I could swear that this made a difference then, and it does also now. Use the meter to change speeds.

Good luck