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  • TommyBoy84
    Rookie
    • May 2007
    • 22

    #1

    Two slider questions, one regarding human hits, one regarding reliever's stamina

    1.) I want to decrease the number of hits I get per game....

    I already lowered the contact slider, but it didn't really do anything. Which other slider should I try?

    2.) I think relievers have far too much stamina on the game. How many notches do you lower the relief pitcher stamina slider, if at all?
  • pberardi
    Pro
    • Apr 2005
    • 964

    #2
    Re: Two slider questions, one regarding human hits, one regarding reliever's stamina

    Originally posted by TommyBoy84
    1.) I want to decrease the number of hits I get per game....

    I already lowered the contact slider, but it didn't really do anything. Which other slider should I try?

    2.) I think relievers have far too much stamina on the game. How many notches do you lower the relief pitcher stamina slider, if at all?
    Reducing hits: If you're using guess pitch, don't. Eliminate all hitting aids including strike zone if your already haven't. If you already did this, then move up a level. Some guys are editing their players contact attributes as well. Other than that, most of us are complaining about too many hits. "It's in the game" as EA would say. Not much you can do. Go for hit variety instead of reducing hits.

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    • phillyfan23
      MVP
      • Feb 2005
      • 2319

      #3
      Re: Two slider questions, one regarding human hits, one regarding reliever's stamina

      ok ...

      if you still can't get less hits with pberardi's suggestion,

      RAISE PITCH SPEED.....I play on 12 or 2 pls default...

      Hope that works

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      • sox73b3
        Rookie
        • Feb 2003
        • 412

        #4
        Re: Two slider questions, one regarding human hits, one regarding reliever's stamina

        Originally posted by TommyBoy84
        2.) I think relievers have far too much stamina on the game. How many notches do you lower the relief pitcher stamina slider, if at all?
        This is becoming a very frustrating part of this game.

        I have the slider turned all the way down and the relievers still have just about full energy for every game.

        The only thing I can think to do next is to change each pitchers individual stamina rating, you shouldn't be able to use the same reliever in every game.

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        • SoxChamp
          MVP
          • Apr 2005
          • 2579

          #5
          Re: Two slider questions, one regarding human hits, one regarding reliever's stamina

          Originally posted by sox73b3
          This is becoming a very frustrating part of this game.

          I have the slider turned all the way down and the relievers still have just about full energy for every game.

          The only thing I can think to do next is to change each pitchers individual stamina rating, you shouldn't be able to use the same reliever in every game.
          You do realize that the stamina/energy bar you see in the bullpen doesn't work, right? It will always be full no matter what (at least on the PS3 version).

          Relievers most definitely fatigue, and they will do so even after pitching in back to back games. The only two ways to see their ACTUAL fatigue is to view it after bringing them into the game, or before the game on the screen when you are selecting your starting pitcher. Scroll down to your relievers and make a mental note of which guys you should and shouldn't use that game.
          It's only a video game.

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          • sox73b3
            Rookie
            • Feb 2003
            • 412

            #6
            Re: Two slider questions, one regarding human hits, one regarding reliever's stamina

            Yes, I am aware of that glitch.

            I am still seeing very little fatigue when I check my relievers before the game.

            Have you changed the fatigue slider at all?

            Maybe I screwed things up by messing with that slider in the first place.

            I will try it back at default for a few games.

            Thanks

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            • tree3five
              MVP
              • Aug 2002
              • 4006

              #7
              Re: Two slider questions, one regarding human hits, one regarding reliever's stamina

              which way do you move the slider to make the relievers tire more. I am never really sure on some of these sliders.

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              • SolidSnake07
                Pro
                • Sep 2006
                • 546

                #8
                Re: Two slider questions, one regarding human hits, one regarding reliever's stamina

                I dont see how removing the strike zone will lessen the number of human hits. I dont see how the strike zone has any effect since the thing disappears once the pitcher begins his delivery.

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                • pberardi
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 964

                  #9
                  Re: Two slider questions, one regarding human hits, one regarding reliever's stamina

                  Originally posted by SolidSnake07
                  I dont see how removing the strike zone will lessen the number of human hits. I dont see how the strike zone has any effect since the thing disappears once the pitcher begins his delivery.
                  I could be wrong, but I believe you can play with the strike zone on so that it stays up while you're hitting. Keeping the strike zone visible is just another hitting aid. That's all. It's easier to judge ball and strikes with it up. That is, until you get used to hitting without it. I can't imagine hitting with a square box in front of me now! It's a suggestion.

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                  • SolidSnake07
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 546

                    #10
                    Re: Two slider questions, one regarding human hits, one regarding reliever's stamina

                    Originally posted by pberardi
                    I could be wrong, but I believe you can play with the strike zone on so that it stays up while you're hitting. Keeping the strike zone visible is just another hitting aid. That's all. It's easier to judge ball and strikes with it up. That is, until you get used to hitting without it. I can't imagine hitting with a square box in front of me now! It's a suggestion.

                    I think you are wrong because the strike zone goes away as soon as the pitcher starts his delivery. There is no setting to change that.

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                    • findinghomer
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 550

                      #11
                      Re: Two slider questions, one regarding human hits, one regarding reliever's stamina

                      the energy bar in the pen does work sometimes, if your guy has pitched alot lately his energy will lower, it just seems like he has to be really drained for it to show in the pen. and on another side note, im glad this game plays decently out of the box because the sliders do not work. most of them dont anyway. so many adjustments are not possible

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                      • davewins
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 1913

                        #12
                        Re: Two slider questions, one regarding human hits, one regarding reliever's stamina

                        Too many human hits is my #1 problem. I don't have the ps3 version so I don't know how that plays. I know it should play at least a little different with the addition of CPU mound visits. I think a lot of it is a confidence thing and how the pitcher is pitching. When the CPU's confidence gets down or even when it's up they throw too many fat fastballs that catch too much of the plate. I should be seeing borderline strikes on the outside corner on HOF level. Not fastballs that are catching most of the plate. This is a big reason why hitting is so easy. Also the timing window is a little too big.

                        I found the best thing to do was editing every players contact down to nothing. Yes all the way to the left. Let the plate vision rating determine contact and your ability. I thought this would make every player equal but it surprisingly doesn't. You can definetley feel more confident with Manny up in a key situation then Julio Lugo for example.

                        I don't own the PS3 version as I don't own a ps3 but I would love to know from anybody that has played both the ps2 and ps3 version what they think of the difference in hitting and basically gameplay overall.

                        Let me add that I think ultimately what they need to do (and they can do this with the technology of next gen gaming) is add a HUGE timing window so every tenth of a second results in a harder/softer hit ball and have a crazy physics engine so it can accurately portray this. MLB 07's hit variety has improved but it's still has a long way to go. I feel like I am either hitting the ball hard or barely hitting it most of the time. I want more variety and that can be based on the PRECISE timing of my swing. For example instead of every 50th of a second making a difference in contact it should be every 10th of a second. Now we can see all types of balls hit. Scorchers down the line that you get around on, seeing eye singles that are just out of the reach of the SS or 2B, etc etc etc.
                        Last edited by davewins; 06-24-2007, 12:01 PM.

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                        • brunnoce
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 4133

                          #13
                          Re: Two slider questions, one regarding human hits, one regarding reliever's stamina

                          Originally posted by davewins
                          Too many human hits is my #1 problem. I don't have the ps3 version so I don't know how that plays. I know it should play at least a little different with the addition of CPU mound visits. I think a lot of it is a confidence thing and how the pitcher is pitching. When the CPU's confidence gets down or even when it's up they throw too many fat fastballs that catch too much of the plate. I should be seeing borderline strikes on the outside corner on HOF level. Not fastballs that are catching most of the plate. This is a big reason why hitting is so easy. Also the timing window is a little too big.

                          I found the best thing to do was editing every players contact down to nothing. Yes all the way to the left. Let the plate vision rating determine contact and your ability. I thought this would make every player equal but it surprisingly doesn't. You can definetley feel more confident with Manny up in a key situation then Julio Lugo for example.

                          I don't own the PS3 version as I don't own a ps3 but I would love to know from anybody that has played both the ps2 and ps3 version what they think of the difference in hitting and basically gameplay overall.

                          Let me add that I think ultimately what they need to do (and they can do this with the technology of next gen gaming) is add a HUGE timing window so every tenth of a second results in a harder/softer hit ball and have a crazy physics engine so it can accurately portray this. MLB 07's hit variety has improved but it's still has a long way to go. I feel like I am either hitting the ball hard or barely hitting it most of the time. I want more variety and that can be based on the PRECISE timing of my swing. For example instead of every 50th of a second making a difference in contact it should be every 10th of a second. Now we can see all types of balls hit. Scorchers down the line that you get around on, seeing eye singles that are just out of the reach of the SS or 2B, etc etc etc.

                          man, good idea you had about lowering the contact all the way...but i have a question about players like ichiro, is he still ichiro? i mean, does he still bats over .330? i would have to have him struggling over the season and batting .235

                          also, i totally understand your though about the hitting window...its just way too easy to get hits in the game...this is also my first and mostly only gripe with this incredible game, im playing the ps3 version. i just need to see more hit balls for outs by me...its furstating when u find yourself rooting against yourself so you dont get another hit.
                          Last edited by brunnoce; 07-09-2007, 02:33 PM.
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                          • Tyrant8RDFL
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 3563

                            #14
                            Re: Two slider questions, one regarding human hits, one regarding reliever's stamina

                            I play with the pitch speed up 5 from default and if your not ready for the right pitch , your not going to do much. I like my pitching to come as real to life as possible.

                            Meaning in real life it takes 4 tenths of a second for a 98 mph fastball to reach the catcher I want the same experience, and when im not guessing right I get the same results when I see a real game on TV. I dont know for sure if moving it 5 up is eactly 4 thenths of a second when they throw a 98 mph fastball, but its damn fast and I love it. Alot of people dont like it but I love the authentic feel of it, so if anyone wants to try this give it a shot and see how your hitting is after that.

                            Give it a few games to get adjusted.
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                            • brunnoce
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 4133

                              #15
                              Re: Two slider questions, one regarding human hits, one regarding reliever's stamina

                              but r u able to pull fastballs with this setting? also what else sliders did you change?
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