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  • Glenn33
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 2455

    #1

    It can happen....

    For those of you who are still searching for the "perfect" set of sliders that will make for competitive games - I am here to tell you - it can happen. Like most of here - I had slider-itis - the absolute compulsion to tweak the sliders after almost every 2 games if the stats aren't exactly to our liking. I struggled with this - because after 40+ plus games I am not sure I enjoyed anyone of them because I was constantly tweaking.

    Then it happened. I took a step back and stopped tweaking - and just determined to enjoy the game and lo and behold I must have stopped at the right time. I am getting great games, "realistic" type stats, hit variety and I am loosing more than winning (which admittedly is a more than a little frustrating.) I am still not convinced this games is great out the box (with no adjustments). That being said, I think I was flat out wrong with regards to the "lack" of CPU offense, user hit variety, etc. This game truly has it all.



    Hi....my name is Glenn and I am a sliderholic. With the help of my sponsor - I have been "slider free" for 10 days now.[applause] You can do it to!
  • The Bimmer
    Far from perfect
    • Oct 2006
    • 1236

    #2
    Re: It can happen....

    Thats a great and honest post. If you feel a relapse coming on you can P.M. anytime.

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    • RaiderFan18
      Rookie
      • Mar 2008
      • 58

      #3
      Re: It can happen....

      Glenn33,

      What are the sliders you are using now? It sounds like you are finally enjoying your game. I'd like to share your feelings.

      Thank you.

      Doug
      35 Year Old Sliderholic
      Slider Free for six hours

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      • BleacherCreature
        MVP
        • Apr 2007
        • 3160

        #4
        Re: It can happen....

        It's kinda funny about sliders.
        They can be the greatest thing for a game while at the same time be the absolute worst feature a game could ever see.

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        • Glenn33
          MVP
          • Jul 2002
          • 2455

          #5
          Re: It can happen....

          Originally posted by RaiderFan18
          Glenn33,

          What are the sliders you are using now? It sounds like you are finally enjoying your game. I'd like to share your feelings.

          Thank you.

          Doug
          35 Year Old Sliderholic
          Slider Free for six hours
          *Group hug for Doug!*


          Doug - I will post them tonight ONLINE and follow up with the name of the sliders so you can download and try at your leisure.

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          • RaiderFan18
            Rookie
            • Mar 2008
            • 58

            #6
            Re: It can happen....

            I hate to do this to you fellow Met fan, but I don't play online. I strictly play Franchise games against the computer.

            All Star Level
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            • spyder23
              Rookie
              • Apr 2003
              • 169

              #7
              Re: It can happen....

              Originally posted by Glenn33
              For those of you who are still searching for the "perfect" set of sliders that will make for competitive games - I am here to tell you - it can happen. Like most of here - I had slider-itis - the absolute compulsion to tweak the sliders after almost every 2 games if the stats aren't exactly to our liking. I struggled with this - because after 40+ plus games I am not sure I enjoyed anyone of them because I was constantly tweaking.

              Then it happened. I took a step back and stopped tweaking - and just determined to enjoy the game and lo and behold I must have stopped at the right time. I am getting great games, "realistic" type stats, hit variety and I am loosing more than winning (which admittedly is a more than a little frustrating.) I am still not convinced this games is great out the box (with no adjustments). That being said, I think I was flat out wrong with regards to the "lack" of CPU offense, user hit variety, etc. This game truly has it all.


              Hi....my name is Glenn and I am a sliderholic. With the help of my sponsor - I have been "slider free" for 10 days now.[applause] You can do it to!
              So what are your final tweaks? I am in the "the game dont need many tweaks camp" as I think only certain sliders need adjusted, but I am curious as to what you have changed. I dont go online, would you be able to share them? I'm really curious what you are using.

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              • chuckm1961
                MVP
                • Mar 2005
                • 1429

                #8
                Re: It can happen....

                Originally posted by spyder23
                So what are your final tweaks? I am in the "the game dont need many tweaks camp" as I think only certain sliders need adjusted, but I am curious as to what you have changed. I dont go online, would you be able to share them? I'm really curious what you are using.

                Call the tweak-doctor! He's thinking about adjusting the sliders ... and we could lose this patient!
                Last edited by chuckm1961; 03-25-2008, 02:26 PM.
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                • RyanLeaf16
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 1003

                  #9
                  Re: It can happen....

                  To be honest, I think a lot of these guys go on a "slider-binge" and they never get off it. It becomes an obsession because many of them are granted this e-rep that I think goes to their head and they are praised up/down for wonderful sliders - yet, they have 15 different versions and constantly tweak.

                  I have resigned myself to playing strictly on All-Star default.


                  Leaf

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                  • SoxChamp
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 2579

                    #10
                    Re: It can happen....

                    Originally posted by RyanLeaf16
                    To be honest, I think a lot of these guys go on a "slider-binge" and they never get off it. It becomes an obsession because many of them are granted this e-rep that I think goes to their head and they are praised up/down for wonderful sliders - yet, they have 15 different versions and constantly tweak.

                    I have resigned myself to playing strictly on All-Star default.


                    Leaf


                    This is actually a great post. I always enjoy those who post their "FINAL VERSION" of their sliders, only to play one or two games and find something "wrong" with their final version and tweak and test and release another FINAL VERSION. Then they do this 20 more times.
                    It's only a video game.

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                    • Glenn33
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 2455

                      #11
                      Re: It can happen....

                      Ok - here are the "tweaks" i made:

                      Player One Pitch movement +10
                      Player One Pitch Command - 10
                      CPU Hit Quality +5
                      CPU Power +1
                      CPU Throwing Strenght -5
                      CPU Throwing accuracy -6
                      CPU Pitcher aggresiveness -10
                      CPU Base stealing aggressiveness +2
                      CPU Batter Plate Discipline +6
                      CPU Field Reaction Time -6
                      CPU Timing Window +10

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                      • JT30
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 2123

                        #12
                        Re: It can happen....

                        I wonder if the size of the strike zone negatively affects the amount of walks we are seeing on both the human and cpu side of things.

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                        • gtm
                          M*t*l F*r*v*r
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 3946

                          #13
                          Re: It can happen....

                          Originally posted by Glenn33
                          Ok - here are the "tweaks" i made:

                          Player One Pitch movement +10
                          Player One Pitch Command - 10
                          CPU Hit Quality +5
                          CPU Power +1
                          CPU Throwing Strenght -5
                          CPU Throwing accuracy -6
                          CPU Pitcher aggresiveness -10
                          CPU Base stealing aggressiveness +2
                          CPU Batter Plate Discipline +6
                          CPU Field Reaction Time -6
                          CPU Timing Window +10

                          Are these for All-Star default? Just CPU changes are working out for you?
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                          • Glenn33
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 2455

                            #14
                            Re: It can happen....

                            Originally posted by gtm
                            Are these for All-Star default? Just CPU changes are working out for you?
                            Yes All Star Default and I had to bump up some of my offensive categories because I suck at hitting.

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                            • nemesis04
                              RIP Ty My Buddy
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 13530

                              #15
                              Re: It can happen....

                              Just a heads up, we were told the timing window for the cpu has no affect on them. Might as well leave it at default.
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