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  • mjb2124
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2002
    • 13649

    #16
    Re: Fielding Reaction Time

    That's exactly it. It's all in how you read the description and why I was using the player reaction attribute as an example (to be honest, I don't know if each player has a reaction time attribute, but if they do, I'm sure this slider is tuned into that - it has to affect something globally).

    More reaction time could also mean they are faster to react to a batted ball because they have more or a higher reaction time. Lower reaction time could mean they are slower to react to a batted ball because they have less or a slower reaction time.

    I'm still not sure and am not ready to rule anything out at the moment. I have my CPU fielder reaction at -10 right now and it seems to work well. The only thing I've seen at -10 is more diving plays by the CPU INF because I believe the CPU isn't reacting fast enough to balls hit. However, I'm finding more hits down the line and in the gaps with the CPU OF. I'll have to test more before the Penguins playoff game tonight. I still think the "not enough doubles" thing was overblown. I'm not seeing a problem with that and I'm using the lowly Pirates!
    Last edited by mjb2124; 04-11-2008, 01:34 PM.

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52771

      #17
      Re: Fielding Reaction Time

      all I know is, I played games on default reaction time and the infielders seemed to always be a step slow(seeing eyed singles getting thru, never making diving attempts at the ball) and then I move it 2 clicks to right and seeing eyed have almost become non-existent and good SS and 2B can make plays on the ball deep in the hole and will make a few diving stops.
      I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

      I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


      Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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      • brunnoce
        MVP
        • Mar 2005
        • 4133

        #18
        Re: Fielding Reaction Time

        Originally posted by countryboy
        all I know is, I played games on default reaction time and the infielders seemed to always be a step slow(seeing eyed singles getting thru, never making diving attempts at the ball) and then I move it 2 clicks to right and seeing eyed have almost become non-existent and good SS and 2B can make plays on the ball deep in the hole and will make a few diving stops.
        lower it to -10 and ull see whats like playing against a If of jose reyes and a OF of ichiros.
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        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52771

          #19
          Re: Fielding Reaction Time

          Originally posted by brunnoce
          lower it to -10 and ull see whats like playing against a If of jose reyes and a OF of ichiros.
          why? I am happy with where its at.

          I at one point started it off a +10 but then the cpu was absolutely ridiculous in the amount of space "he" could cover. Whether +2 makes them faster at reacting to the ball or slower, I am happy with it.
          I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

          I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


          Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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          • brunnoce
            MVP
            • Mar 2005
            • 4133

            #20
            Re: Fielding Reaction Time

            Originally posted by countryboy
            why? I am happy with where its at.

            I at one point started it off a +10 but then the cpu was absolutely ridiculous in the amount of space "he" could cover. Whether +2 makes them faster at reacting to the ball or slower, I am happy with it.
            allright
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            • sask3m
              Banned
              • Sep 2002
              • 2352

              #21
              Re: Fielding Reaction Time

              shouldn't you be able to tell which setting makes fielders react slower or faster by watching a slowmo replay and focusing on the fielder and crack of the bat?

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              • J-Unit40
                Boom!!
                • Sep 2005
                • 8261

                #22
                Re: Fielding Reaction Time

                It's kind of like that with this slider.
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                • mjb2124
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 13649

                  #23
                  Re: Fielding Reaction Time

                  Originally posted by sask3m
                  shouldn't you be able to tell which setting makes fielders react slower or faster by watching a slowmo replay and focusing on the fielder and crack of the bat?
                  That's exactly what I did tonight. I tried at -10 and +10 for one game controlling both offenses. Frankly, I didn't see much of a difference. The only time I really noticed something was at -10 when I hit a rocket a few feet to the right of the SS. The SS never even moved until it was too late (this was against STL).

                  I hit gappers for doubles at -10 and I had gappers for doubles at +10. No triples in this game.

                  I'm not sure what to think. I've been playing at -10 and have been happy, but wanted to try +10 to see if it would make a difference. I'll try more tomorrow.

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                  • nemesis04
                    RIP Ty My Buddy
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 13530

                    #24
                    Re: Fielding Reaction Time

                    Originally posted by mjb2124
                    That's exactly what I did tonight. I tried at -10 and +10 for one game controlling both offenses. Frankly, I didn't see much of a difference. The only time I really noticed something was at -10 when I hit a rocket a few feet to the right of the SS. The SS never even moved until it was too late (this was against STL).

                    I hit gappers for doubles at -10 and I had gappers for doubles at +10. No triples in this game.

                    I'm not sure what to think. I've been playing at -10 and have been happy, but wanted to try +10 to see if it would make a difference. I'll try more tomorrow.
                    We are adjusting attribute not time. So bringing it below default takes away the player's ability to react at the crack of the bat. That is why you will see players stand there and then move all of a sudden when the ball is near them.

                    It is not the best solution to slowing down the fielders but it is our only solution without editing players.
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                    • mjb2124
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 13649

                      #25
                      Re: Fielding Reaction Time

                      Originally posted by nemesis04
                      We are adjusting attribute not time.
                      That's what I thought earlier when I made this post:

                      http://www.operationsports.com/forum...44-post11.html

                      I figured this slider had to globally affect a players reaction attribute.

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                      • brunnoce
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 4133

                        #26
                        Re: Fielding Reaction Time

                        Originally posted by nemesis04
                        We are adjusting attribute not time. So bringing it below default takes away the player's ability to react at the crack of the bat. That is why you will see players stand there and then move all of a sudden when the ball is near them.

                        It is not the best solution to slowing down the fielders but it is our only solution without editing players.
                        and how can u be SURE of that?
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                        • mjb2124
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 13649

                          #27
                          Re: Fielding Reaction Time

                          Originally posted by brunnoce
                          and how can u be SURE of that?
                          I can't really speak for nemesis, but I do know he talks to the SCEA guys on occasion. He might be getting his info from them.

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                          • nemesis04
                            RIP Ty My Buddy
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 13530

                            #28
                            Re: Fielding Reaction Time

                            Originally posted by mjb2124
                            I can't really speak for nemesis, but I do know he talks to the SCEA guys on occasion. He might be getting his info from them.
                            When This slider first came out, it could be interpreted 2 ways sending the slider in either direction. I asked Kolbe a while back and was told we were adjusting attribute and not time. Anyway, you can see when you bring it to -10, the players stand still for a certain period before going after the ball. It does not slow them down, it just gives them a late jump on the ball.
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                            • brunnoce
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 4133

                              #29
                              Re: Fielding Reaction Time

                              Originally posted by nemesis04
                              When This slider first came out, it could be interpreted 2 ways sending the slider in either direction. I asked Kolbe a while back and was told we were adjusting attribute and not time. Anyway, you can see when you bring it to -10, the players stand still for a certain period before going after the ball. It does not slow them down, it just gives them a late jump on the ball.
                              ive been doing exausting testing on this..and i just dont see what ure saying..
                              what im seeing is a lot LESS lousy plays specially by the IF with this slider at -10!

                              a good way to test it, is to bunt...just set up a game and bunt over and over ..first try -10 than +10..

                              +10 is a joke..u can almost reach everytime in a bunt for single! Gezz i could get a bunt for single with B.Molina from all people..in this test game i did i got 18 bunt for singles hits!!!!!!!
                              The maximum i could get with -10 was 5 , this is specially becasue with it at -10 the pitchers field a lot better.

                              thats why i figure out that +10 is definalty slowing fielders ...




                              i tried to make a video showing it..just uploaded to youtube, but its sayng "problem" in the videos status.. ill wait to see if the status changes later.
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                              • mjb2124
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 13649

                                #30
                                Re: Fielding Reaction Time

                                I don't know brunnoce. I'm seeing exactly what nemesis is stating. When I put it at -10, I see the CPU fielders not moving initially when a ball is hit. At +10, they move immediately. Also at +10 I saw more SS's getting to balls hit up the middle than at -10.

                                The way I see it, if Kolbe from SCEA told nemesis it's attribute related, then it's attribute related. Heck, Kolbe produced the game so he should know.

                                Maybe there is another slider that's affecting something in your set?

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