Delo2beatu's 09' HOF Sliders

[pberardi]

Re: Delo2beatu's 09' HOF Sliders

I recently checked out some other sets of sliders and I wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole. Some of their sliders is what I believe way outta wack. Heres some of my sliders I think are perfect and reasons why:

CPU hitting: Default ( CPU hits very well in the game on both All-Star and HOF)
Pickoffs +1 ( so the CPU will throw over more and you just can't keep leading or you WILL get picked off)
Pitcher control, consistency, and strike %: -4 ( so you can get walks for yourself and walk people while your on the mound. Also to get pitch counts higher { avg in baseball is over 60 for 4 innings}
Fielder arm strength: -2 ( on default arm is too strong, at -2 you can still throw people out at home from the outfield)
Baserunning speed: -1 ( cuts down on CPU hitting too many triples but they still happen, doubles for human are much closer)
My setting: I'm sold on my settings!! Please use them with my camera angles for true baseball experience.

I like your sliders for HOF. With some practice I'm having great games and very challenging but not frustrated at bats.

One question: Do you find the CPU pitcher sliders: Control/strike%/Consistency subtle or sensitive. The reason I ask is I play with 2 franchises; the Ranger and D'backs.

For my Rangers I want more walks, more discipline as they usually have lead leading hitting stats and for the D'backs, they have to manufacture runs due to less power. They also, thanks to their 3rd baseman are a strikeout machine.

So I'm looking for a little less plate discipline from my D'backs and more from the Rangers.

I find the hitting sliders to be subtle and don't want to go to extremes on hitting. The CPU pitching sliders do affect cpu aggressiveness with corners and k's. What do you think?

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[mss4481]

Re: Delo2beatu's 09' HOF Sliders

I agree with you about the hitting sliders. I am currently working on lowering contact, timing and solid hits. I believe the pitching sliders are sensative while hitting are subtle.

What I have changed as of today are:
Consistency: -1
Control: -3
Wind: 0 (default)
Injurys: 0
Errors: 0

People need to take their time and get to know this game. If people have already started a franchise I thinks thats stupid. There is no roster out yet that will compare to Knights when he releases it ( weeks after the baseball season starts)

Be patient people... Were gonna get these sliders right!
Oh yeah.... I can almost guarantee there will be another patch released by sony that will change slider settings due to gameplay.

hey Delo, I've been using your sliders, but I'm a little confused by this post. You said you lowered control -3. I currently have it already at -4 on the sliders. You always lowered consistency -1. So it's a zero or 4 now? I assume this is for both cpu and user 1.

[delo2beatu]

Re: Delo2beatu's 09' HOF Sliders

Just a few quick things. These are now on Sportsconnect for download. I just had another great game. I really haven't been playing that much lately due to spring break but i'm back on it.

Box Score from last game:

COL 8 8 0 (me)
STL 2 8 3

I want to affirm that these sliders are awesome! I'm trying to get where I was last year using Nemesis' sliders. I had such an amazing franchise going on. The numbers looked really good. ( 08 The Show COL chise': 269 avg. 21st ranked in HRs and ERA).....What I am trying to get out 09' is a realistic avg. HR total and ERA. What I do not focus on that much is walk totals, and strikeouts during my season (all ranked last in my 08' chise)

If you look at my past game I only batted .227
I know people will play with these sliders and say that the pitchers leave pitches over the plate too much. To them I say... then hit the ball!!!!. I smacked the ball good last game but it was caught alot by STL defenders (you get to see some great plays made by the CPU that all seem realistic so far). I ended up with 8 HITS!!!!

I think my pitching sliders are where they should be because at default the CPU hits the corners like 75% of the time and you can't get any hits! With mine at least you can get some decent hits or at least put the ball in play! On HOF the hitter window is much smaller so hits are tougher!

[delo2beatu]

Re: Delo2beatu's 09' HOF Sliders

hey Delo, I've been using your sliders, but I'm a little confused by this post. You said you lowered control -3. I currently have it already at -4 on the sliders. You always lowered consistency -1. So it's a zero or 4 now? I assume this is for both cpu and user 1.

Hey MSS check my original post. I'm gonna update all the info or you can download my latest version on Sportsconnect.

Thanks bro.... keep me posted on how everythings going with these... Also there are some pretty good rosters online with full AA and AAA lineups (I'm still gonna wait for Knights to start my real full franchise). I might start a test chise' to see how the sliders work with all averages being calculated over a long period of time (maybe 30 games)

[delo2beatu]

Re: Delo2beatu's 09' HOF Sliders

A patch needs to be released to address some issues.

#1
Pitcher confidence- Even with this set off in the options it does indeed stay on. Proof of this is when the cpu walks someone the coach comes out to boost his confidence EVERY TIME! Tone this BS down!

#2
CPU comeback- The CPU comeback is on nomatter if you turn the option on or off. No matter where you pitch or what you do they WILL score BS runs after you take a lead

#3
CPU pitcher control- My number one beef with this game. EVERY pitcher either pitches to the corners or extremely low over and over! NO MLB PITCHER HAS CONTROL LIKE THIS!!! ITS JUST PLAIN ******** AND IS REUINING THIS GAME! The only thing you can really do is tune cpu piching to 0 and then all you get are hit batters and passed balls ( GO BACK TO 08' PITCHING SONY!)

#4
Fix all these stupid glitches. i.e. color changing managers, all cub games being at night, announcer mistakes and so on...

I know theres gonna be a patch and I hope it fixes these annoying drawbacks because the game is fundamentally great, just some tuning is needed

[pberardi]

Re: Delo2beatu's 09' HOF Sliders

A patch needs to be released to address some issues.

#1
Pitcher confidence- Even with this set off in the options it does indeed stay on. Proof of this is when the cpu walks someone the coach comes out to boost his confidence EVERY TIME! Tone this BS down!

#2
CPU comeback- The CPU comeback is on nomatter if you turn the option on or off. No matter where you pitch or what you do they WILL score BS runs after you take a lead

#3
CPU pitcher control- My number one beef with this game. EVERY pitcher either pitches to the corners or extremely low over and over! NO MLB PITCHER HAS CONTROL LIKE THIS!!! ITS JUST PLAIN ******** AND IS REUINING THIS GAME! The only thing you can really do is tune cpu piching to 0 and then all you get are hit batters and passed balls ( GO BACK TO 08' PITCHING SONY!)

#4
Fix all these stupid glitches. i.e. color changing managers, all cub games being at night, announcer mistakes and so on...

I know theres gonna be a patch and I hope it fixes these annoying drawbacks because the game is fundamentally great, just some tuning is needed

I'm playing HOF and here's my problem: This goes for Allstar as well.

There are WAY too many user strikeouts! I'm getting tired of these 9-10 strikeout games. No matter how much I practice (and by the way, I always do well in BP)

There are too few walks. Once the cpu strikes you out he goes for the k and the walks stop.

Next: There is a serious problem with the 1st inning. I have yet to experience an easy 1st inning. The last 3 games I forwarded past the 1st inning to avoid a 15 minute inning. That's just plain wrong whem a devout player like me doesn't want to play the 1st inning.

HOF is broke. Allstar is too easy. That leaves Legend.

[pbz06]

Re: Delo2beatu's 09' HOF Sliders

I'm playing HOF and here's my problem: This goes for Allstar as well.

There are WAY too many user strikeouts! I'm getting tired of these 9-10 strikeout games. No matter how much I practice (and by the way, I always do well in BP)

There are too few walks. Once the cpu strikes you out he goes for the k and the walks stop.

Next: There is a serious problem with the 1st inning. I have yet to experience an easy 1st inning. The last 3 games I forwarded past the 1st inning to avoid a 15 minute inning. That's just plain wrong whem a devout player like me doesn't want to play the 1st inning.

HOF is broke. Allstar is too easy. That leaves Legend.

I'm glad i'm not the only one having trouble with 1st innings. My god, I don't remember the last time I had a 1-2-3 first inning. At the very best case scenario, I escape with no runs allowed, but it takes a lot of pitches and/or a lucky rally breaking defensive play.

Of course I'm exagerating a bit, but 1st innings do seem to give me headaches.

[Phoenixmgs]

Re: Delo2beatu's 09' HOF Sliders

A patch needs to be released to address some issues.

#1
Pitcher confidence- Even with this set off in the options it does indeed stay on. Proof of this is when the cpu walks someone the coach comes out to boost his confidence EVERY TIME! Tone this BS down!

#2
CPU comeback- The CPU comeback is on nomatter if you turn the option on or off. No matter where you pitch or what you do they WILL score BS runs after you take a lead

#3
CPU pitcher control- My number one beef with this game. EVERY pitcher either pitches to the corners or extremely low over and over! NO MLB PITCHER HAS CONTROL LIKE THIS!!! ITS JUST PLAIN ******** AND IS REUINING THIS GAME! The only thing you can really do is tune cpu piching to 0 and then all you get are hit batters and passed balls ( GO BACK TO 08' PITCHING SONY!)

#4
Fix all these stupid glitches. i.e. color changing managers, all cub games being at night, announcer mistakes and so on...

I know theres gonna be a patch and I hope it fixes these annoying drawbacks because the game is fundamentally great, just some tuning is needed

For #1, turning off pitcher confidence has never turned off pitcher confidence, turning pitcher confidence off turns "pitch" confidence off.

For #2, CPU comeback is not always on. You may believe it is reversed, fine, but the developers have said that CPU comeback is not always on several times. I play on Legend and I can tell you CPU comeback isn't always on, I've blown out the CPU and shut them out and they've done the same to me.

For #3, CPU pitch control is fine at default. I faced Brandon Morrow a few games back, and before the first pitch (after checking out his BB/9 rating), I was like I'm going to get a lot walks this game, and Morrow only pitched 5 innings due to his high pitch count and the 5 walks I drew. To increase walks you actually want to increase this slider, as the pitch control slider just makes pitchers throw more pitches down the middle when lowered. It's a really horribly programmed slider that will make pitching too hard or too easy when moved a few notches from default.

And, for #4, every game is going to have some glitches, good thing is The Show has no game-breaking ones.

[DustyAceAlright]

Re: Delo2beatu's 09' HOF Sliders

For #1, turning off pitcher confidence has never turned off pitcher confidence, turning pitcher confidence off turns "pitch" confidence off.

For #2, CPU comeback is not always on. You may believe it is reversed, fine, but the developers have said that CPU comeback is not always on several times. I play on Legend and I can tell you CPU comeback isn't always on, I've blown out the CPU and shut them out and they've done the same to me.

For #3, CPU pitch control is fine at default. I faced Brandon Morrow a few games back, and before the first pitch (after checking out his BB/9 rating), I was like I'm going to get a lot walks this game, and Morrow only pitched 5 innings due to his high pitch count and the 5 walks I drew. To increase walks you actually want to increase this slider, as the pitch control slider just makes pitchers throw more pitches down the middle when lowered. It's a really horribly programmed slider that will make pitching too hard or too easy when moved a few notches from default.

And, for #4, every game is going to have some glitches, good thing is The Show has no game-breaking ones.

To increase walks you actually want to increase....? The walks slider (is there a walk slider). Pitcher Consistency if lowered seems to draw walks fine. Not sure if thats what you were referring to.

[Phoenixmgs]

Re: Delo2beatu's 09' HOF Sliders

To increase walks you actually want to increase....? The walks slider (is there a walk slider). Pitcher Consistency if lowered seems to draw walks fine. Not sure if thats what you were referring to.

Yeah, increase control to get more walks. For example, if pitcher control is lowered a lot, then a pitch that was aimed at the corner will most likely miss over the middle of the plate instead off the plate for a ball. So, how are you going to increase walks by lowering this slider? There's a strike frequency slider for the CPU but don't lower it too much as you will probably be getting too many 3-1 and 2-0 counts as the slider only increases balls early in the count (you still have to be disciplined later in the count to draw the walk), and hitting will be too easy when you always have hitter's counts. I actually have pitcher consistency at +2 (7/10) to lower the amount of passed balls and wild pitches (which is the main purpose of the slider) because they happen much too often on default. No matter what sliders you use, you still have to be disciplined to draw walks. I would focus on finding the best batting cam for youself and just getting better on pitch recognition. The CPU usually throws about 65% of its pitches for strikes with pitch control and strike frequency at default and with pitch consistency at +2.

[delo'sback]

Re: Delo2beatu's 09' HOF Sliders

New changes:

Relief Stamina: -5
Pitching ball Marker: Fade

[DustyAceAlright]

Re: Delo2beatu's 09' HOF Sliders

Are these sliders based a lot on the settings?

I was just curious as to the reason you use classic pitching interface rather then meter? Is it more personal preference? I tried these sliders for a few games awhile back and loved them. Great stats in my Dodger Franchise. I've put the game down for the updates and am ready to get back into the swing of things.

[DustyAceAlright]

Re: Delo2beatu's 09' HOF Sliders

New changes:

Relief Stamina: -5
Pitching ball Marker: Fade

Are new updates posted through out the thread or up on the first page?