Contact vs. Solid Hits slider

[johnreyes]

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone has the correct definition for those 2 sliders I mentioned above? The in-game hint states that Contact slider helps the batting average but also vision and discipline. But doesn't the Solid Hits slider do the same thing except that it doesn't affect check swings? I'm confused now...

[bengtc]

Re: Contact vs. Solid Hits slider

for me so far the solid hits slider affects your batting avg to a greater degree

[johnreyes]

Re: Contact vs. Solid Hits slider

So should I move the slider 1 notch to the right for both if I want to improve my hitting by just a tad? I'm a swing only hitter by the way.

[Dogslax41]

Re: Contact vs. Solid Hits slider

My understanding and what I used to make my slider adjustments is:

Contact increases/decreases the chance for your/cpu player to put the bat on the ball.

Solid hit increases/decreases the chance for you/cpu to drive the ball and not pop up/drive the ball into the ground basically just widens/reduces the sweet spot on the bat

[Dogslax41]

Re: Contact vs. Solid Hits slider

So should I move the slider 1 notch to the right for both if I want to improve my hitting by just a tad? I'm a swing only hitter by the way.

It depends, are you striking out a lot or putting the ball in play weakly and being forced out.

[Blzer]

Re: Contact vs. Solid Hits slider

I feel like "Solid Hits" means the ability to hit the ball solidly on more occasions. I mean no duh, but what I am inferring is that those pitches on the black that you can't seem to get the best wood on, raising the Solid Hits bar helps out with that. So like, say you match up perfectly with your contact thing anyway, I don't think the Solid Hits slider, low or high, will affect the ball any differently. It's only when you don't match it up well, IMO.

Only time will tell about this one.

[ckarlic]

Re: Contact vs. Solid Hits slider

It depends, are you striking out a lot or putting the ball in play weakly and being forced out.

Im putting the ball in play weakly. I don't strike out too much.

[johnreyes]

Re: Contact vs. Solid Hits slider

Yeah I hit like a little girl on All-Star default hitting sliders.

[dorismary]

Re: Contact vs. Solid Hits slider

All depends on your styleskill plus EVERYTHING all sliders tie into one another, say Pitchers con , const when you raise one it effects other everything :wink:
I find Pitcher Confidence plays a big part and my sliders are set up to have to Beat/break the pitcher down .
You can tell a ace from 5th starter but they can still both have good or bad games .CONFIDENCE
I cant understand how others dont adjust for this in their sliders
I would tell anyone to set your sliders up with advantage to the pitchers for my reasons listed above.

[Blzer]

Re: Contact vs. Solid Hits slider

Unless I've been reading it wrong this entire time, I think the slider is Pitcher Consistency.

Am I wrong?

[Dogslax41]

Re: Contact vs. Solid Hits slider

If you are putting the ball in play but weakly just bump the solid hit slider 1 maybe 2. As long as you are not striking out all the time you should probably leave contact alone.

The discussion on the difference between contact and solid hits slider is really independant of the pitcher consistency and confidence discussion. The pitcher sliders are really focused on location and the impact of the situation on location.

These two batting sliders are focused on what happens when the ball ends up in a bad loaction and how effective the batter is on taking advantage. So in a way they are related but dont necessarily have to be considered in unison.

If you are seeing the right number of balls and strikes then your pitcher sliders are good. If you are striking out non stop then the contact slider should be adjusted, if you get the bat on the ball all the time but only get 1-2 hits a game and they are dribblers or infield hits then you may want to bump the solid hit slider to generate harder hits for base hits.

[ckarlic]

Re: Contact vs. Solid Hits slider

Unless I've been reading it wrong this entire time, I think the slider is Pitcher Consistency.

Am I wrong?

I dont remember seeing a pitcher confidence slider. I only see Pitcher Consistency and control. I could be wrong though. I do see pitcher confidence as an option to turn on or off but I don't see sliders associated with this. Am I missing something?

[dorismary]

Re: Contact vs. Solid Hits slider

Dogs Your WRONG read the sliders descriptions
I spent 48 hours with trinity on most of these.
I dont know how most of you play but I found my sliders on Veteran as it makes players play most to their real atributes IMO and I can tell you this there is a happy medium to make your sliders perfect, but it might be harder to tweak on higher levels
Good Luck Guys

[Dogslax41]

Re: Contact vs. Solid Hits slider

What exactly am I wrong about.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nemesis04





Contact: This slider for 09 is your actual ability to make contact with the ball. In 08 this would have been your vision slider.

Solid contact:This slider affects the quality of the bat on ball type hits. In 08 this was the contact slider.

[DarthRambo]

Re: Contact vs. Solid Hits slider

I dont remember seeing a pitcher confidence slider. I only see Pitcher Consistency and control. I could be wrong though. I do see pitcher confidence as an option to turn on or off but I don't see sliders associated with this. Am I missing something?

Ya, its weird how you can turn confidence off, but no slider? However, I found even when I turned it off, the meter was still there and moving, effecting the pitcher, so I think IMO its broken. Just like the throwing meter, broken too.

As far as the guy to started the thread, I'd say move solid hits up 1, and timing up probably 2. Timing is huge in this game when it comes to hitting, if your just a tad eary, you fly out, a tad late, and you foul it off. very realistic, but takes time and patience to get it down.