The Phoenix Legend set v2.0

[Phoenixmgs]

Re: The Phoenix Legend set v2.0

Ok thanks man I'm going to give these a try, I think I have literally tried everyone's sliders here. Pitching has become to easy for me though so I'm going with Legend. If it's still to easy then maybe I'm just to good, lol.

I'll try these out with steal frequency at + 1 and see how it plays.

I don't simulate major league games, I'm going to play all 162 but I do simulate minor league games and that's where most of my injuries prop up and it's annoying because you can't replace them, you have to play a man short so you need to have as few injuries as possible.

If you still have no problem pitching on Legend with my sliders, try default Legend, the CPU is a hitting machine.

Another reason why I'm not playing franchise. I take my time to make the minor league lineups just right and then someone gets injured and I have to intervene. Plus, once they are no longer injured, I have put the lineups back to where they originally were. Just too much of a hassle for me now along with all the management stuff, I just want to play without deciding if it should be bobblehead day

[Avalon1178]

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Hi, I'm currently in search of a good realistic HOF sliders out there and thought I'd try it out. Maybe its me and that I need to get used to hitting with HOF, but I'm really having trouble hitting with these sliders. Is it just me? I'm playing the Angels and I've noticed on a few occassions when I check the batting results, even if a batter gets good contact on the ball it usually ends up being a weak grounder or a line drive out. Any suggestions on what sliders to tweak until I get used to the batting?

[Avalon1178]

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Hmm..I just realized something...did you say the requirement for these sliders is "No Guess Pitch"? I've been playing with Guess Pitch on (carryover style from MLB 08). Does it skew the gameplay if Guess Pitch is turned on?

[Phoenixmgs]

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Hi, I'm currently in search of a good realistic HOF sliders out there and thought I'd try it out. Maybe its me and that I need to get used to hitting with HOF, but I'm really having trouble hitting with these sliders. Is it just me? I'm playing the Angels and I've noticed on a few occassions when I check the batting results, even if a batter gets good contact on the ball it usually ends up being a weak grounder or a line drive out. Any suggestions on what sliders to tweak until I get used to the batting?

You'll sometimes enter a streak where you just can't get good solid contact with good swings. If the pitcher has a high H/9 rating weak hits on good swings occur much more than pitchers with low to average H/9 rating. If you're just getting low hit numbers on a consistent basis, up the timing slider to anywhere from -2 to 0.

Hmm..I just realized something...did you say the requirement for these sliders is "No Guess Pitch"? I've been playing with Guess Pitch on (carryover style from MLB 08). Does it skew the gameplay if Guess Pitch is turned on?

I say don't use guess pitch or use guess pitch with no feedback because if you are really good with the guess pitch feature, you're hitting numbers will be inflated. If you are getting realistic hitting numbers with guess pitch, then keep using it.

[Avalon1178]

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You'll sometimes enter a streak where you just can't get good solid contact with good swings. If the pitcher has a high H/9 rating weak hits on good swings occur much more than pitchers with low to average H/9 rating. If you're just getting low hit numbers on a consistent basis, up the timing slider to anywhere from -2 to 0.

By the way I meant to say Legend sliders not HOF, but I think you figured that out. Anyway, I just started playing this game and I can say MLB 09 Legend mode is a lot more challenging (which I like) because the pitchers don't always throw fastball which makes it challenging to hit. My biggest challenge in hitting so far, and since I use guess pitch often, is sometimes I can't catch up on fastball or usually guess wrong because the CPU pitcher is much more unpredictable now. I just started my "training" franchise and so far I'm 0-6 playing as the Angels. I got swept by A's, batting .196. Biggest frustration I saw was when I guess the right pitch with Guerrero batting, middle of the plate fastball down, Guerrero swung and it was just a grounder to short.

Phoenix - are you saying then that the "No Guess Pitch" requirement is merely a recommendation and these sliders could still be used? And if I want to tweak I only change the Timing and that's it (no contact slider etc cause I think you mentioned some dependency or correlation with another slider)

I say don't use guess pitch or use guess pitch with no feedback because if you are really good with the guess pitch feature, you're hitting numbers will be inflated. If you are getting realistic hitting numbers with guess pitch, then keep using it.

Heh, I guess my number are inflated, but in a bad way....my hitting is atrocious and the times I do get my timing and hit the ball squarely it ends up being an out

[Phoenixmgs]

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And if I want to tweak I only change the Timing and that's it (no contact slider etc cause I think you mentioned some dependency or correlation with another slider)

The CPU batting is very dependent on the contact and timing sliders. The user batting is not dependent much at all with the contact slider since YOU decide what to swing at. If you aren't getting enough hits per game, up the user timing slider.

Phoenix - are you saying then that the "No Guess Pitch" requirement is merely a recommendation and these sliders could still be used?...
Heh, I guess my number are inflated, but in a bad way....my hitting is atrocious and the times I do get my timing and hit the ball squarely it ends up being an out

Yeah, guess pitch off or guess pitch set to No Feedback (which I use) is a recommendation because, like I said earlier, someone that's a really good hitter that uses guess pitch extremely well will be hitting too easily. I find that guess pitch doesn't make you a better hitter because you are swinging if you guess right and not swinging if you guess wrong. Guess pitch players usually don't focus in on the delivery of pitcher and the pitcher's release as well as they should; thus, their pitch recognition skills probably aren't that good and they are usually in trouble when they get to a two strike count.

[JT30]

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Phoenix after moving the throw strength to -4, I think you nailed it. I dont see any other issues with your sliders. Nice work

Are you still sticking with these or have you made any changes? I think you have the batting and pitching sliders nailed.. I just think the baserunning, fielding, and speed is screwed up to begin with, but your slider settings have made it more tolerable. Thanks

[bibibanax]

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Comeback on or off?

[Phoenixmgs]

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Phoenix after moving the throw strength to -4, I think you nailed it. I dont see any other issues with your sliders. Nice work

Are you still sticking with these or have you made any changes? I think you have the batting and pitching sliders nailed.. I just think the baserunning, fielding, and speed is screwed up to begin with, but your slider settings have made it more tolerable. Thanks

Glad you're loving the sliders. I haven't changed a thing besides for the arm strength to -4.

Comeback on or off?

I'm playing with it off. I've played with it both on and off and have not seen a major difference on either setting.

[Kicking Bear]

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Hey man, I was wondering what your general feeling is on CPU comeback. Is "on" on, or "off" on. Huh!? What I mean is how do I turn this darn thing off. I'm seeing some very suspicious things. For example: I jump all over the A's for 7 runs in the 3rd inning. Now these are with your sliders untouched. Well Joba was lights out until the top of the 4th. His confidence was high, not fatigued it really seemed like he was going to pitch a great 6 innings or so. Well the very next inning he lost it.....Or they gained it. Now to be clear, I have had games where the started was "hit" hard from the outset, and never really had it. But this one was very suspicious. Thoughts?

[Phoenixmgs]

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Hey man, I was wondering what your general feeling is on CPU comeback. Is "on" on, or "off" on. Huh!? What I mean is how do I turn this darn thing off. I'm seeing some very suspicious things. For example: I jump all over the A's for 7 runs in the 3rd inning. Now these are with your sliders untouched. Well Joba was lights out until the top of the 4th. His confidence was high, not fatigued it really seemed like he was going to pitch a great 6 innings or so. Well the very next inning he lost it.....Or they gained it. Now to be clear, I have had games where the started was "hit" hard from the outset, and never really had it. But this one was very suspicious. Thoughts?

Actually I just turned comeback to ON again. In 3 straight games, the CPU scored 3, 2, and 4 runs in the first inning against me. I really don't think it's comeback code per se, it's just that the CPU at times turns into a hitting machine that you can't get out unless you throw absolutely perfect pitches to them. The reason I don't think it's comeback code is because it doesn't happen only when they are losing. Maybe it was just a trend but the CPU seemed to score more organically in the 2 games I just played with comeback on. However, I don't think the game plays drastically different either way, and I have no idea if comeback is reversed or not.

[Kicking Bear]

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Ok, good enough. A question though; what do you consider a "perfect" pitch. By this do you mean location and hitting the gold timing line perfect? Now that I mention it, it does seem that pitching successful depends on the AI allowing you to do so. Does anyone else feel this way? Or do you feel like while pitching you can make a difference with skill?

[LanteriX]

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Ok, good enough. A question though; what do you consider a "perfect" pitch. By this do you mean location and hitting the gold timing line perfect? Now that I mention it, it does seem that pitching successful depends on the AI allowing you to do so. Does anyone else feel this way? Or do you feel like while pitching you can make a difference with skill?

Yeah I see what you're saying when I play. The AI seems like it can just flip a switch and start pounding the ever living crap out of you at any point in the game. Last game I played I was cruising through 4, gave up a walk and like two hits. Then all of a sudden they go on a run for like 4..5 hits and a bunch of runs. It's like clockwork every game.

I'm starting to get frustrated because I'm stuck between levels now. I wish I could have the pitching of all-star and the user batting of legend and I'd be all set. My ERA on all-star was 4.23 through around 9 games, but I was hitting .343 as a team, so it was obviously way too easy. Then since I switched to legend, by BA went south to a more realistic level, but my ERA skyrocketed something fierce.

[Avalon1178]

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Hey Phoenix, I took your suggestion and started playing with Guess Pitch Off (big leap from what I'm used to, believe me, and was a bit scared at first..hahahah), but I gotta tell you these sliders are GREAT with them off! I've become a more reactive batter and that stats and gameplay have been realistic. Granted I still need a few practice like cutting down on strikeouts, but so far its great.

The only major changes I made is the fielding speed (changed it to default) because I notice the CPU goes to first to third quite often even on a lazy single to center, and also knocked down the Pitching Accuracy down so the chances of getting walks is higher. The past three games I've been averaging around 1-3 walks for game...

Anyway, good work! Now once Knight's roster set is done, I can finally start my Franchise.

[Phoenixmgs]

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Yeah I see what you're saying when I play. The AI seems like it can just flip a switch and start pounding the ever living crap out of you at any point in the game. Last game I played I was cruising through 4, gave up a walk and like two hits. Then all of a sudden they go on a run for like 4..5 hits and a bunch of runs. It's like clockwork every game.

I'm starting to get frustrated because I'm stuck between levels now. I wish I could have the pitching of all-star and the user batting of legend and I'd be all set. My ERA on all-star was 4.23 through around 9 games, but I was hitting .343 as a team, so it was obviously way too easy. Then since I switched to legend, by BA went south to a more realistic level, but my ERA skyrocketed something fierce.

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Hey Phoenix, I took your suggestion and started playing with Guess Pitch Off (big leap from what I'm used to, believe me, and was a bit scared at first..hahahah), but I gotta tell you these sliders are GREAT with them off! I've become a more reactive batter and that stats and gameplay have been realistic. Granted I still need a few practice like cutting down on strikeouts, but so far its great.

The only major changes I made is the fielding speed (changed it to default) because I notice the CPU goes to first to third quite often even on a lazy single to center, and also knocked down the Pitching Accuracy down so the chances of getting walks is higher. The past three games I've been averaging around 1-3 walks for game...

Anyway, good work! Now once Knight's roster set is done, I can finally start my Franchise.

Be careful with the pitch control slider, it really only increases meatballs down the middle when you lower the slider. Don't move it far from default. Raising this slider could actually increase walks as well. There is no slider that will actually increase walks, strike frequency only increases/decreases strikes early in the count, you still have to be patient to get the walk.