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  • Cubbie-Wan
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    • Apr 2009
    • 67

    #46
    Re: The Phoenix Legend set v2.0

    The Phenix Legend set v2.0 is to be used the entire Franchise Mode( Legend) or you plan to change it? if i change pitcher confidence to ON , is going to affect the type of Slider that you have set?

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    • Phoenixmgs
      Banned
      • Feb 2009
      • 751

      #47
      Re: The Phoenix Legend set v2.0

      Originally posted by Cubbie-Wan
      The Phenix Legend set v2.0 is to be used the entire Franchise Mode( Legend) or you plan to change it? if i change pitcher confidence to ON , is going to affect the type of Slider that you have set?
      With enabling pitcher confidence, you are going to see pitchers struggle much more if they get off to a bad start and pitchers dominate much more if they get off to a good start. There's really no sliders changes to make to counteract that.

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      • clownbaby
        Rookie
        • Mar 2009
        • 164

        #48
        Re: The Phoenix Legend set v2.0

        Originally posted by Phoenixmgs
        With enabling pitcher confidence, you are going to see pitchers struggle much more if they get off to a bad start and pitchers dominate much more if they get off to a good start. There's really no sliders changes to make to counteract that.
        given that pitchers experience this realistically (to an extent), would you say that this is just too much of an extreme in momentum?

        suppose it was a slider, would you have it somewhere in the middle of where it is now?

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        • Phoenixmgs
          Banned
          • Feb 2009
          • 751

          #49
          Re: The Phoenix Legend set v2.0

          Originally posted by clownbaby
          given that pitchers experience this realistically (to an extent), would you say that this is just too much of an extreme in momentum?

          suppose it was a slider, would you have it somewhere in the middle of where it is now?
          Yeah, I think it's an extreme in momentum considering the game already has built-in pitcher confidence that you can't turn off. If there was a slider for confidence stuff, I would probably lower it a bit considering batters have confidence as well.

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          • Phoenixmgs
            Banned
            • Feb 2009
            • 751

            #50
            Re: The Phoenix Legend set v2.0

            I've been playing with pitch control at +1 far about 10 games, and right now I'm leaning to putting pitch control back at default (0). I've just been pitching too well and haven't been drawing enough walks. My good pitching might be due to a good streak or something. Also, maybe I just haven't been patience enough at the plate lately but I just haven't been drawing any walks. Control pitchers seem to throw more balls but non-control pitchers are throwing too many strikes in my opinion. I leaning to the conclusion that pitch control at anything but default is a bad idea. I'm going to try a few more games and try my best to be patient and see how things go.

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            • bibibanax
              Rookie
              • Sep 2008
              • 221

              #51
              Re: The Phoenix Legend set v2.0

              Hi,

              I lowered contact at - 3 for me and the CPU. 10 games in Spring Training....I'm 2-8 with a .235 BA and a 5.15 ERA. I suppose that when I will cut poor players.....my stats will be better.

              I hit a lot of singles and don't produce a lot of runs. Do you think the first slider I should adjust is contact, power or solid hits???

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              • Phoenixmgs
                Banned
                • Feb 2009
                • 751

                #52
                Re: The Phoenix Legend set v2.0

                Originally posted by bibibanax
                Hi,

                I lowered contact at - 3 for me and the CPU. 10 games in Spring Training....I'm 2-8 with a .235 BA and a 5.15 ERA. I suppose that when I will cut poor players.....my stats will be better.

                I hit a lot of singles and don't produce a lot of runs. Do you think the first slider I should adjust is contact, power or solid hits???
                I would up power first. I really don't think solid hits does much at all. With my power setting of -3, you have to use the power swing to get a realistic amount of HRs and doubles.

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                • CBizzle
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 192

                  #53
                  Re: The Phoenix Legend set v2.0

                  Hey Phoenix, you seem to have a good idea on what these sliders do so I have a general question.

                  I'm pretty much using your Legend sliders with a few tweaks. I'm using your Contact(-2)/Power(-3) but moved timing to -3, but the CPU wasn't hitting good enough, so I moved it to -2, and not only are they still not hitting enough, but now I can't get K's anymore because they literally make contact with everything.

                  They still get a realistic amount of hits but definitely not enough runs because when I really focus in with runners on base I usually get the outs that I need to.

                  So before I start tweaking with things I wanted to get some advice from you, with the information given, is their any way you think I can get them to hit well enough while not making contact with everything?(which doesn't allow me to get K's). Like do you think -3 contact, -2 timing would work? or -1 contact, -3 timing? Basically a combination of taking timing down and putting contact up, or putting contact down and leave the timing the way it is or up it. Maybe tweak with Solid Hits? I don't know, let me know what combination you think would work for my problem.

                  Thanks. Your sliders have been great for my franchise.
                  NBA: Los Angeles Lakers
                  NFL: San Francisco 49ers
                  MLB: San Francisco Giants // Oakland A's
                  CFB: USC Trojans

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                  • Phoenixmgs
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 751

                    #54
                    Re: The Phoenix Legend set v2.0

                    Originally posted by CBizzle
                    Hey Phoenix, you seem to have a good idea on what these sliders do so I have a general question.

                    I'm pretty much using your Legend sliders with a few tweaks. I'm using your Contact(-2)/Power(-3) but moved timing to -3, but the CPU wasn't hitting good enough, so I moved it to -2, and not only are they still not hitting enough, but now I can't get K's anymore because they literally make contact with everything.

                    They still get a realistic amount of hits but definitely not enough runs because when I really focus in with runners on base I usually get the outs that I need to.

                    So before I start tweaking with things I wanted to get some advice from you, with the information given, is their any way you think I can get them to hit well enough while not making contact with everything?(which doesn't allow me to get K's). Like do you think -3 contact, -2 timing would work? or -1 contact, -3 timing? Basically a combination of taking timing down and putting contact up, or putting contact down and leave the timing the way it is or up it. Maybe tweak with Solid Hits? I don't know, let me know what combination you think would work for my problem.

                    Thanks. Your sliders have been great for my franchise.
                    Wow, in my opinion, the CPU still hits a tad too much. You might be the first person having CPU offense problems on legend. Do you by any chance have pitch control higher than default? That will make pitching too easy. You can try -3 contact with timing somewhere between -2 and 0. I had contact at -3 for awhile but the CPU just made first pitch outs far too often in my opinion and I was able to strikeout guys like David Eckstein too easily. I would think at -1 contact the CPU would be too disciplined at the plate, even at -2 the CPU sometimes doesn't even flinch on perfect sliders just off the plate. Maybe dropping solids hit a lot would do something, the solid hits slider seems to do the least of all the batting sliders though. I leave it at default as I'm afraid it may drop the amount of doubles, I had it down at -3 at a time and it didn't seem to drop hit totals at all.



                    I have lowered the strike frequency slider to -2. Just not getting enough walks. And, I've come to the conclusion that if you only use the contact swing, bump up power to -2 for the user as you won't see enough doubles and HRs.
                    Last edited by Phoenixmgs; 04-17-2009, 06:34 AM.

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                    • CBizzle
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 192

                      #55
                      Re: The Phoenix Legend set v2.0

                      Originally posted by Phoenixmgs
                      Wow, in my opinion, the CPU still hits a tad too much. You might be the first person having CPU offense problems on legend. Do you by any chance have pitch control higher than default? That will make pitching too easy. You can try -3 contact with timing somewhere between -2 and 0. I had contact at -3 for awhile but the CPU just made first pitch outs far too often in my opinion and I was able to strikeout guys like David Eckstein too easily. I would think at -1 contact the CPU would be too disciplined at the plate, even at -2 the CPU sometimes doesn't even flinch on perfect sliders just off the plate. Maybe dropping solids hit a lot would do something, the solid hits slider seems to do the least of all the batting sliders though. I leave it at default as I'm afraid it may drop the amount of doubles, I had it down at -3 at a time and it didn't seem to drop hit totals at all.



                      I have lowered the strike frequency slider to -2. Just not getting enough walks. And, I've come to the conclusion that if you only use the contact swing, bump up power to -2 for the user as you won't see enough doubles and HRs.
                      Nah, my pitch control is at default. Its kinda strange, my starters rarely give up runs. I'm the A's in my franchise and I have two rookie pitchers with ERA's under 2. In all the games I've lost its in late innings from the bullpen. My starters never get jumped on and especially not in early innings. Which is ironic because before I quit my Giants franchise they absolutely killed me in the first few innings. They still get their realistic amount of hits at the end of the day. But it just feels weird shutting down the Sox and Yanks with rookie pitchers.

                      I'm gonna try what you suggested with contact/timing though, thanks.
                      NBA: Los Angeles Lakers
                      NFL: San Francisco 49ers
                      MLB: San Francisco Giants // Oakland A's
                      CFB: USC Trojans

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                      • AWS88
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 309

                        #56
                        Re: The Phoenix Legend set v2.0

                        Hey Phoenix, still using these sliders? I've played a few games with them, and almost everything feels great. The one issue I have with them is the CPU pitchers aren't throwing enough balls. 90% of my at bats go 0-1,0-2,1-2, then they paint the corner and i'm pretty much forced to swing. What sliders do you think I should tweak to draw some walks? I'm hesitant to change anything because I don't want to change something and have them start catching a bit too much of the plate, or never be able to find the strike zone.

                        Any suggestions?

                        Other than that, these are some really good sliders.

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                        • Phoenixmgs
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 751

                          #57
                          Re: The Phoenix Legend set v2.0

                          Originally posted by AWS88
                          Hey Phoenix, still using these sliders? I've played a few games with them, and almost everything feels great. The one issue I have with them is the CPU pitchers aren't throwing enough balls. 90% of my at bats go 0-1,0-2,1-2, then they paint the corner and i'm pretty much forced to swing. What sliders do you think I should tweak to draw some walks? I'm hesitant to change anything because I don't want to change something and have them start catching a bit too much of the plate, or never be able to find the strike zone.

                          Any suggestions?

                          Other than that, these are some really good sliders.
                          I been playing RTTS recently and I noticed that issue. In RTTS, the minor league pitchers would constantly throw pitches down the middle to me, barely any balls, when they have very low BB/9 ratings and they keep pounding the middle of the plate. I upped CPU pitch control to +2 (7/10) (figuring it's too low as pitch control determines how many meatballs will be throw) and lowered Strike Frequency to -2 (3/10), and that has been working for me in RTTS. I haven't tested these sliders in a regular game yet but I hope that they'll work. So, I've been playing with this slider set:

                          CPU pitch control: +2
                          CPU consistency: +2
                          CPU strike frequency: -2

                          Thoses are the sliders that affects balls and walks. Now, if that doesn't work, try lowering CPU consistency down to like -2/-3 as that has been worked for some people in the "Drawing walks?" thread. I really like CPU consistency where I have it for hit batters, wild pitches, and pass balls.

                          I've changed some other sliders a touch as well, and I'll go and update the first post with my changes. I won't officially change CPU pitch control and strike frequency on the first page as I have not tested them in a normal game yet.
                          Last edited by Phoenixmgs; 05-15-2009, 06:17 AM.

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                          • AWS88
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 309

                            #58
                            Re: The Phoenix Legend set v2.0

                            Before you posted that, I played a couple games using Skyboxers sliders for everything pertaining to CPU pitching (I bumped pitching consistency up 1 from his to lower the amount ofwild pitches), and yours for everything else. So far its working well for me. If I end up hitting too well though, I will try your suggestions out. Thanks for the input, its much appreciated.

                            I'm having a lot of fun with this set of sliders. They're definitely tough, but everything that happens seems like it SHOULD have happened that way, which I love. I'm seeing a lot of variety in games too. Blow outs, pitching duels etc etc. Great work

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                            • AWS88
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 309

                              #59
                              Re: The Phoenix Legend set v2.0

                              ...and just as I post that, the CPU becomes unstoppable on offense like they always do. I'm sure lowering the CPU hitting sliders any more than they already are will stop cpu offense completely.

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                              • Phoenixmgs
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 751

                                #60
                                Re: The Phoenix Legend set v2.0

                                Originally posted by AWS88
                                ...and just as I post that, the CPU becomes unstoppable on offense like they always do. I'm sure lowering the CPU hitting sliders any more than they already are will stop cpu offense completely.
                                Yeah, the CPU gets into that mode where you have to make perfect pitches or get lucky with balls hit right at a fielder. I don't think there's anyway to avoid that. It really sad at times because I actually will do an in-game save at times just in case the CPU BS happens to I can reload the game, it's really that bad at times.

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