*****The 'Perfect' Slider Set***** MLB 10 - The Show

[Doormat]

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It's Sunday at the East coast, can't wait for these later

[Hypostatic]

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thanks psychobulk

[dkrause1971]

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Hey Psycho,

Just wondering after reading a few posts why do you prefer meter to Classic?
I recently started using classic pitching this year as I felt meter really takes away from the pitching aspect. The reason I say this is because each pitcher has a unique delivery all his own, and with classic pitching this seems better because each guys release point and break on pitches mustbe determined by the user, in my opinion of course.

The meter seems robotic to me, meaning all you really have to do is time it right and hit the yellow line. Pretty easy for a lot of Veterans of the series. Classic really enhances release points and really decreases the need to adjust the sliders for the user.

This is all my opinion, of course. I really enjoy looking forward to your sliders every year, but just wanted to provide my thoughts since I changed my approach this year and maybe others may want to give it a shot.

Are you sure on this? I thought most the threads on classic state that only effort is increased thru holding the button longer or shorter. That rating dicates the rest.

[TShorts92]

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I can't wait any longer!

[HustlinOwl]

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It's Sunday at the East coast, can't wait for these later

and Tuesday already in the UK with daylight savings lol

[TripleThreat1973]

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What's the big deal guys? The sliders aren't ready yet so chill out.

That's all I said, only from the other angle (Start the thread when the sliders are ready). No big deal. As it is now, he stated that they aren't ready, but he's already painted himself into the corner by announcing they'll be released on Sunday. I'd rather a person just take as long as they need, and let the PM'ers know "they'll be ready when they're ready" or just ignore them.

Psycho does a great job with these and I rather him take his time and get them as close to perfect as possible then just throw them out there to be tweaked a million times.

I appreciate that. I think some of the current slider threads make your point exactly. There are tweaks after each game played (seemingly).

I want a great set of sliders that I don't have to worry about so I can start my franchise once Knight's rosters come out.

You'll probably need to take your own advice (below).

Don't attack Psycho because he wants to stick to his guns and get the sliders as perfect as possible before he releases them.

All that happened was that a coupla guys made posts that essentially said "Slider threads don;t need trailers or future release dates". That's it. No attack. This thread nor the slider guy needs his mom, his buddies, or anyone else to run to his rescue for a perceived attack. It's okay.

Why don't you go make your own sliders then? I appreciate you Psycho!

I'm starting to think that's what most gamers need to do. Just as all the defaults won't work for every preference, experience, skill, style, etc ... neither will user-made sliders.

The problem with slider creation is that you really need to test each movement of a slider for 10+ games, to try and measure the effect of the slider and the measure of "each cllick". I'm new to the show so I don't completely understand how each slider category affects game play and realistic stats. There is so much discussion on it, saying oppossing things, that it is sometimes hard to know what each slider does ... and well companies never seem to provide any real advice on it.

So, that would be my advice to each gamer. Rather than banking on the reliability of sliders that you haven't used or seen yet, start with the defaults at your playing level, and play 10 games, recording stats and making notes, and then make slight tweaks for 10 more games, etc. That's all PB is doing, only his sliders are tweaked for his skill level, playing style, perpferences, etc. IMO, each gamer needs to, if they're after "perfect sliders". If a person is just seeking a general slider set, then any ol set will do, because thegamer will either eventually tweak it to his style/level/preference or just live with it.

Anyway, no one is attacking the slider maker for anything, but some wer questioning the necessity of a "slider announcement thread" without any sliders. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Ironic]

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this Is like Fat Albert when they would run to the TV cuz The Brown Hornet was about to come on!!!
These sliders will remind me of one thing....
THAT I SUCK AT THIS GAME
cant wait!!!!

[aga11ah]

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this guy doesn't make sliders that make the CPU godly and make every game a boring 2-1 pitching duel right?

please say no. I don't know why so many people do that on sliders.

"oh hey let me make the game so hard it's no fun woo hoo!!"

that should be rule #1 on making sliders. Don't take the FUN out of the game.
(and trust me, people do)

teams still average 4 runs a game, regardless of how bad they are.

[highheatkingsb]

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This is great. Can't wait to try them out. I'm currently using your 09 sliders to play this year until the new ones hit. Looking forward to them Psycho, and thanks for all your hard work and dedication to making this game the best it can be.

[Braves Fan]

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For what it's worth, I understand the criticism of this thread being posted before the slider was posted. I was a little disappointed they weren't up yet, he is hyping his slider set by doing this. That said, he's one of the best slider makers this board has so I don't mind him hyping it up. He's really good, you'll see that if you use them.

[PsychoBulk]

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this guy doesn't make sliders that make the CPU godly and make every game a boring 2-1 pitching duel right?

please say no.

No

Far from it actually, as you will see over time.

[PsychoBulk]

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Perfect Sliders v3.1

USER

Contact: DEFAULT
Power: DEFAULT
Timing: DEFAULT
Fouls: DEFAULT
Solid Hits: 0
Starter Stamina: DEFAULT
Reliever Stamina: 3
Pitcher Control: 6
Pitcher Consistency: 7

CPU

Contact: DEFAULT
Power: DEFAULT
Timing: DEFAULT
Fouls: DEFAULT
Solid Hits: 0
Starter Stamina: DEFAULT
Reliever Stamina: 3
Pitcher Control: 6
Pitcher Consistency: 7
Strike Frequency: 3
Manager Hook: DEFAULT
Pickoffs: DEFAULT

GLOBAL

Pitch Speed: DEFAULT
Fielding Errors: DEFAULT
Throwing Errors: DEFAULT
Fielder Run Speed: 1
Fielder Reaction: 10
Fielder Arm Strength: 4
Baserunner Speed: DEFAULT
Baserunner Steal Ability: DEFAULT
Baserunner Steal Frequency: DEFAULT
Wind: DEFAULT
Injury Frequency: DEFAULT

I think the first thing you will notice is the amount of things left at DEFAULT, this is because i am absolutely of the belief that the majority of things in this game work fine completely untouched, and because this is, by far, the best "out of the box" game SCEA has ever produced.

With that said there are a few tweaks (and the odd drastic change i.e. solid hits/fielder speed & reaction which to me are essential) but yes, overall, this year has seen far less of a need for slider tweaking.

In 08 and 09 there were 3-4 more tweaks to the set until i got it what i consider down, but this year there may be only 1 or 2, maybe even none, thats how solid most of the stuff on DEFAULT is.

Anyway, as i always say, enjoy, please give feedback but DO NOT give it on a game by game basis, it is genuinely meaningless, you will not get a true flavour of how these will play out for you until you have played at least 20/30 games with them, so please, dont come on here saying i won 16-2 and hit 8 homers (because it will happen at some point as thats baseball) or ive only scored 2 runs in 4 games and cant get the ball out of the infield (because it will happen at some point as thats baseball) because over time they WILL even themselves out, just like the real season does.

Anyway, enough from me, just trust me on this, if you take the time and patience to play long enough with these WITHOUT passing judgment, you will see that in the end all will work out.

Enjoy :wink:

[mrcub1221]

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are these for hall of fame or all star or can they be for both?

[TripleThreat1973]

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Anyway, as i always say, enjoy, please give feedback but DO NOT give it on a game by game basis, it is genuinely meaningless, you will not get a true flavour of how these will play out for you until you have played at least 20/30 games with them, so please, dont come on here saying i won 16-2 and hit 8 homers (because it will happen at some point as thats baseball) or ive only scored 2 runs in 4 games and cant get the ball out of the infield (because it will happen at some point as thats baseball) because over time they WILL even themselves out, just like the real season does.

Anyway, enough from me, just trust me on this, if you take the time and patience to play long enough with these WITHOUT passing judgment, you will see that in the end all will work out.

Enjoy :wink:

Thanks for posting these. I figured "default" was the best geneeral rating, as that is how the game is designed to play, and any extreme slider moving would likely disrupt the intended play of the game.

I usually test sliders in games of 10, with the reason being [1] it's twice through the starting rotation so you get to see how they play with 2 starts from the ace and 2 starts by the 5th starter, and [2] it's often 3 serieses, with one against a good team, one agaionst a poor team, and one against average, so your result totals for 10 games likely represent a fair representation of how those sliders and gamer work together.

I have 12 ST games left, and I'll post back the results as compared to MLB averages. As for "feel" things, I generally look at the velocity of OF throws based on who is doing the throwing, whether guys opull low and away change-ups with monster authority, and/or whether fast runners are able to beat out 6-4-3 GIDP's when the SS starts deep in the hole on a soft or routine grounder.

I agree that the game likely requires very little movement.

When I look at the numbers you posted, the only extremes I see are [1] S'Hits (I love saying that), and [2] Fielder reaction time.

The S'Hits slider seems to be touchy (almost like an all or nothing slider), and I do wonder about the Fielder Reaction slider at 10, only because I experience A LOT of diving plays, especially by Gordon Beckham. Again the fielder reaction slider seems to be touchy because you either seem to get webgems all over the place or fielders who have everything to their right or left go "just under their glove".

I'd imagine that this has not been the case for you, or you would have otherwise went a different direction with those sliders, I'm just making conversation. But in terms of results, I'm a "Science Fiorst" guy (lots of data), so that's what I'll use and record as well as a few "feel" comments whether guys seem to perform as they should (arm strength, speed factors, etc).

Thanks.

[Cras]

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These do make a lot of sense. The more I get messing around with my sliders, the more I find I move them back to default. Your sliders are amazingly close to where I had mine except for a few things, I am just total suck at pitching so my human sliders are adjusted to compensate for that.

Thanks for the hard work and the sliders. I will give them a go for sure.