CPU vs CPU "0" Slider Settings

[claystone]

CPU VS CPU GAMES ONLY

I wanted to try this out my "0" slider test with the show. I usually do this with the football games, but thought it might work for the show. The concept behind this is by having all sliders set to "0", then the players ratings really mean everything in this game.

So far after testing 12 games it's been working fine. Yes, there has been HR's, errors, K's..you name it. I actually like how the games play out. It seems the really talented players do very well, as they should. Some games are pitcher dues, while other are all offense.

I just started my Yankee franchise, so i will be posting stats for each game to give you a sense of the stats.

One good thing is i had J. Shields from the Rays throw 128 pitches before he was taken out. He actually lost all energy at 112 pitches. He was only allowed to stay in because he had one out, and he was left in the game to finish the inning. Also he was winning the game.

SLIDERS
1. All set to "0" even Global is set to "0"
2. Edit: 4/7/10 Change to "Legend"
3. I kept Pitch Speed, Pickoff, & Injuries set to 10. Everything else is "0".


EDIT 4/7/10: It seems "Legend" is the way to go, instead of "All-Star". The first (3) game stats i've posted was played on "All-Star". I'll post the "Legend" games next.

[claystone]

Re: CPU vs CPU "0" Slider Settings

Here is a sample of a test game i had.

Orioles vs Rays

Orioles: 4
Rays: 9

Orioles Hitting:
6 (5 Singles, 1 Double)

Ray's Hitting:
12 (7 Singles, 1 Double, 3 HR)
__________________________________________________ ___________
Orioles Pitching:
K. Millwood: 4IP / 7H / 7R / 7ER / 3BB / 3SO / 15.75
M. Hendrickson: 2IP / 2H / 1R / 1ER / 1BB / 1SO / 4.50
K. Vehara: 2IP / 2H / 1R / 1ER / 1BB / 1SO / 4.50

Rays Pitching:
J. Shields: 6IP / 5H / 4R / 4ER / 5BB / 6SO / 6.00
D. Wheeler: 3IP / 1H / 0R / 0ER / 1BB / 3SO / 0.00

Note:
1. 2 players from Orioles HBP
2. Rays had an (1) Error

[ParisB]

Re: CPU vs CPU "0" Slider Settings

You will definitely see good results still, because the game's sliders aren't extreme like they are in other games such as Madden. They're just tweaks.

You can MAX out everything and still see good games overall.

[claystone]

Re: CPU vs CPU "0" Slider Settings

OPENING DAY

YANKEES VS RED SOX

YANKEES: 5 - RED SOX: 1

Yankees Batting:
Jeter: 1/3
Johnson: 2/4
A. Rod: 2/5
Teixeira: 1/5
Cano: 0/5
Granderson: 0/2
Posada: 1/4
Winn: 1/4
Swisher: 0/2

Boston's Batting:
Ellsbury: 0/3
Youklis: 0/4
Martinez: 2/4
Drew: 0/3
Lowell: 0/4
Pedroia: 0/3
Beltre: 0/3
Cameron: 0/2
Scutaro: 1/3
__________________________________________________ _______
Yankee Pitching:

C. Sabathia:

8IP / 3H / 1R / 1ER / 4BB / 5SO / 1.13

D. Marte:
1IP / 0H / 0R / 0ER / 0BB / 1SO / 0.00

Boston's Pitching:

J. Beckett:

5.2IP / 6H / 3R / 3ER / 2BB / 6SO / 4.76

D. Bard:
0.2IP / 1H / 1R / 1ER / 2BB / 1SO / 13.50

B. Shouse:
2.1IP / 1H / 1R / 0ER / 2BB / 3SO / 0.00

R. Ramires:
0.1IP / 0H / 0R / 0ER / 0BB / 1SO / 0.00
__________________________________________________ _____
Yankee Notes:
1. HR for A. ROD
2. HBP: Jeter

Boston Notes:
1. Error on Scutaro
2. Stolen Base by Pedroia

[budsticky]

Re: CPU vs CPU "0" Slider Settings

You will definitely see good results still, because the game's sliders aren't extreme like they are in other games such as Madden. They're just tweaks.

You can MAX out everything and still see good games overall.

It's funny you should mention this, because before I even saw this for giggles I decided to play a game with contact, power, timing, and fouls all turned up to 10 for both me and the CPU. I did keep human and CPU solid hits at 0 though. On top of all that I jacked up pitcher control and consistency to 10 for both human and CPU. I did keep CPU strike frequency at 3 which is where I usually have it, but I might do another experiment with that at 10 as well. I didn't jack up the global sliders at all, so this was just to check out the batting and pitching sliders.

Not only did I have a very believable game, but I drew more walks than I ever have..and it was with the two main pitching sliders at 10! I drew 6 walks. It felt like I was in more full counts than I usually get into as well. And it wasn't because a ton of fouls either.

NYY(Me) 9 runs, 12 hits, 1 error
FLA(CPU) 4 runs, 9 hits, 2 errors(1 was one of those dumb drops on a ball 4 walk..so really just 1)

My offense-6 walks, 6 strike outs, 7 singles, 3 doubles, 1 triple, 1 HR
CPU offense-2 walks, 6 strike outs, 4 singles, 2 doubles, 1 triple, 2 HR

My pitchers: 126 total pitches, 64% strikes. .257 BAA
CPU pitchers: 162 total pitches, 58% strikes. .308 BAA

There were no hit batters or passed balls and the CPU threw one wild pitch.

Pretty much this game felt as real as any I've played yet. There were dribblers, balls down the line and in the gaps, infield hits, pretty much all you would expect to see.

I'm really starting to think that the solid hits slider is really the only slider that has a strong effect on the game. Pretty much if you have it at 0 it seems you can go anywhere with the rest of the sliders.

[ParisB]

Re: CPU vs CPU "0" Slider Settings

It's funny you should mention this, because before I even saw this for giggles I decided to play a game with contact, power, timing, and fouls all turned up to 10 for both me and the CPU. I did keep human and CPU solid hits at 0 though. On top of all that I jacked up pitcher control and consistency to 10 for both human and CPU. I did keep CPU strike frequency at 3 which is where I usually have it, but I might do another experiment with that at 10 as well. I didn't jack up the global sliders at all, so this was just to check out the batting and pitching sliders.

Not only did I have a very believable game, but I drew more walks than I ever have..and it was with the two main pitching sliders at 10! I drew 6 walks. It felt like I was in more full counts than I usually get into as well. And it wasn't because a ton of fouls either.

NYY(Me) 9 runs, 12 hits, 1 error
FLA(CPU) 4 runs, 9 hits, 2 errors(1 was one of those dumb drops on a ball 4 walk..so really just 1)

My offense-6 walks, 6 strike outs, 7 singles, 3 doubles, 1 triple, 1 HR
CPU offense-2 walks, 6 strike outs, 4 singles, 2 doubles, 1 triple, 2 HR

My pitchers: 126 total pitches, 64 strikes. .257 BAA
CPU pitchers: 162 total pitches, 58 strikes. .308 BAA

There were no hit batters or passed balls and the CPU threw one wild pitch.

Pretty much this game felt as real as any I've played yet. There were dribblers, balls down the line and in the gaps, infield hits, pretty much all you would expect to see.

I'm really starting to think that the solid hits slider is really the only slider that has a strong effect on the game. Pretty much if you have it at 0 it seems you can go anywhere with the rest of the sliders.

Yup.

I've also been wondering if some sliders have a "weird" relation with other sliders that might behave differently. For example, if maxing out the Contact makes the CPU pitch around more. Just a theory, and I don't feel like testing anymore because I dialed in my sliders to my preference....but things like that happened in Madden, where adjusting QB Accuracy affected how the wide receivers played etc

[claystone]

Re: CPU vs CPU "0" Slider Settings

GAME 2

YANKEES VS RED SOX

YANKEES: 12 - RED SOX: 4

Yankees Batting:
Jeter: 2/5
Johnson: 2/5
A. Rod: 2/4
Teixeira: 0/2
Cano: 4/5
Granderson: 1/5
Posada: 0/3
Winn: 1/4
Swisher: 2/4

Boston's Batting:
Ellsbury: 1/4
Youklis: 1/5
Martinez: 0/3
Ortiz: 1/2
Drew: 1/3
Pedroia: 1/4
Lowell: 0/4
Scutaro: 0/3
Cameron: 0/4
__________________________________________________ _______
Yankee Pitching:

J. Vazquez:

6IP / 4H / 4R / 4ER / 4BB / 8SO / 6.00

P. Hughes:
2IP / 1H / 0R / 0ER / 1BB / 3SO / 0.00

D. Marte:
1IP / 0H / 0R / 0ER / 0BB / 0SO / 0.00



Boston's Pitching:

J. Lackey:

3.1IP / 7H / 8R / 8ER / 4BB / 4SO / 21.60

T. Wakefield:
2.2IP / 3H / 3R / 3ER / 2BB / 2SO / 10.13

R. Ramires:
2IP / 4H / 1R / 1ER / 1BB / 1SO / 3.86

H. Okajima:
1IP / 0H / 0R / 0ER / 0BB / 1SO / 0.00
__________________________________________________ _____
Yankee Notes:
1. 2B: Rod, Johnson, Swisher
2. HR: Rod (2), Cano, Johnson
3. Error: Posada

Boston Notes:
1. 2B: Ortiz
2. 3B: Pedroia
3. HR: Drew
4. HBP: Ortiz

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[claystone]

Re: CPU vs CPU &quot;0&quot; Slider Settings

It seems "Legend" is the way to go, instead of "All-Star" when using "0" sliders. I'll post game stats.

I had my pitcher go 9 innings in a 3-1 win over Boston. First time seeing a cpu vs cpu game where the pitcher went 9 innings.

[eamuscatuli15]

Re: CPU vs CPU &quot;0&quot; Slider Settings

is this for cpu vs. cpu games only?

[claystone]

Re: CPU vs CPU &quot;0&quot; Slider Settings

is this for cpu vs. cpu games only?

Yes.

[budsticky]

Re: CPU vs CPU &quot;0&quot; Slider Settings

It seems "Legend" is the way to go, instead of "All-Star" when using "0" sliders. I'll post game stats.

I had my pitcher go 9 innings in a 3-1 win over Boston. First time seeing a cpu vs cpu game where the pitcher went 9 innings.

Sorry dude, but skill level has no effect on CPU vs. CPU games.

[kingdevin]

Re: CPU vs CPU &quot;0&quot; Slider Settings

I know the dudes at scea say that but i think skill level does alter results based on my prior exp w/the game

[claystone]

Re: CPU vs CPU &quot;0&quot; Slider Settings

This game was played on "Legend" with "0" slider settings.


GAME 4

YANKEES VS RAYS

YANKEES: 3 - RAYS: 1

Yankees Batting:
Jeter: 1/4
Johnson: 3/5
A. Rod: 1/5
Teixeira: 0/3
Cano: 0/4
Granderson: 2/4
Posada: 2/4
Winn: 1/3
Swisher: 0/3

Ray's Batting:
Bartlett: 0/4
Longoria: 3/4
Crawford: 0/4
Pena: 0/4
Zobrist: 0/3
Burrell: 1/4
Upton: 0/3
Navarro: 2/4
Kapler: 0/3
__________________________________________________ _______
Yankee Pitching:

A. Pettitie:

7IP / 6H / 1R / 1ER / 2BB / 7SO / 1.29

D. Marte:
1IP / 0H / 0R / 0ER / 0BB / 0SO / 0.00

M. Rivera:
1IP / 0H / 0R / 0ER / 0BB / 2SO / 6.75



Ray's Pitching:

W. Davis:

5IP / 6H / 3R / 3ER / 3BB / 8SO / 5.40

C. Bradford:
1IP / 1H / 0R / 0ER / 1BB / 1SO / 0.00

R. Choate:
2IP / 3H / 0R / 0ER / 0BB / 2SO / 0.00

J. Howell:
1IP / 0H / 0R / 0ER / 0BB / 1SO / 0.00
__________________________________________________ _____

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[ericjwm]

Re: CPU vs CPU &quot;0&quot; Slider Settings

I know the dudes at scea say that but i think skill level does alter results based on my prior exp w/the game

Yep, it does for sure.

[kingdevin]

Re: CPU vs CPU &quot;0&quot; Slider Settings

Hey Eric. Long time - hope all is well. Did you get this years game yet and have you set some sliders up? IMO, u had the best slider set for my style of watching the game evn with its slider quirks. I find this years version a little better with "holding" the slide effects after u play the game for awhile.

I have been trying this 0 slider set except for timing and fouls (to keep strikeouts at a decent #), and its not playing too bad. I hope that after many games i still feel this way..