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  • Jelek11
    Rookie
    • May 2008
    • 23

    #1

    Walks and strikeouts

    Hi everyone, I read these forums every day but rarely post. I was wondering how you all are achieving a realistic number of walks and strikeouts. I walk about twice per game and average about 10+ strikeouts per game whether it's Tim Lincecum or a number five starter pitching. Lowering cpu strike frequency and consistency seems to be helping with walks but I still seem to strike out way too often no matter how patient I am at the plate. I use catcher 3 and have tried some other camera angles but that doesn't make much of a difference. I've been playing the show for 3 years now and LOVE the game this year, I have almost all of my sliders at default which is a far cry from the multiple slider modifications I've used in the past but I just can't seem to stop striking out and it's driving me crazy. Thanks for the help!
  • Snake.Plissken
    Banned
    • Mar 2011
    • 85

    #2
    Re: Walks and strikeouts

    I really like CPU pitcher control at 7 and consistency at 8 with strike frequency at default, I just had a 4 walk game against the Yanks, 3 off of AJ Burnett along with a 4 pitch walk as well. You'll notice a big difference in pitchers with a low BB/9 rating and a high BB/9 rating.

    With batting cams, I try to find a cam where I can pick up the high fastball well, I'm using catcher 9 currently as I can tell off release rather well if it's a high fastball. You may want to lower pitch speed if you can't turn on inside fastballs. If you are sitting on an inside fastball or high fastball (because your hitter has hot zones there), and you can't get around on it when you are looking for it that means you should lower pitch speed. On 2 strikes look high fastball and adjust off of that. Lastly, using the contact swing on 2 strikes is a huge help in cutting down on strikeouts, you check swing a lot easier and your PCI is bigger.

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    • Jelek11
      Rookie
      • May 2008
      • 23

      #3
      Re: Walks and strikeouts

      Thank you for the detailed reply, it's much appreciated!! The last I tried was strike frequency: 2 and consistency at 3 with control at default, I had two walks and 4 strikeouts through 2.0 against matt latos, I also had user fouls at 6. I ended up having to quit that game but those 4 k's were troublesome. I use contact swing anytime I have two strikes except on 3-2 but I'll probably start using it on that count too at this rate.

      Have you noticed that the good pitchers are totally dominant with the higher control and consistency? I couldn't imagine that they could hit the black anymore than they do now but maybe I'll give that a shot. It's the 2-0 ,2-1 perfect pitches that seem to be my downfall. Also, the pitch counts/ball: strike ratio seems good regardless of sliders for whatever that's worth.

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      • Heroesandvillains
        MVP
        • May 2009
        • 5974

        #4
        Re: Walks and strikeouts

        Snake and I disagree on this one.

        I hit on HOF, Timing Only, with these sliders:

        CPU Control 5
        CPU Consistency 2
        CPU Strike Frequency 5
        Pitch Speed 4

        I also guess pitch with two strikes sometimes, and exclusively use contact swing on 0-2 and 1-2 counts unless a GREAT hitter is up, and even then, still sometimes.

        You can follow my posts and philosophy on these in these two threads.

        http://www.operationsports.com/forum...d.php?t=474173

        http://www.operationsports.com/forum...d.php?t=474502

        By the way, my walks and K's at the moment are practically perfect.

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        • Snake.Plissken
          Banned
          • Mar 2011
          • 85

          #5
          Re: Walks and strikeouts

          Originally posted by Jelek11
          Have you noticed that the good pitchers are totally dominant with the higher control and consistency? I couldn't imagine that they could hit the black anymore than they do now but maybe I'll give that a shot. It's the 2-0 ,2-1 perfect pitches that seem to be my downfall. Also, the pitch counts/ball: strike ratio seems good regardless of sliders for whatever that's worth.
          I don't think the good pitchers are too dominant, it's mostly dependent on the BB/9 rating and their control rating for each pitch. The pitchers with a good BB/9 rating will miss the zone by a smaller margin on average but they will still throw a decent amount of obvious balls, they are just around the plate more as they should be. Raising the control and consistency doesn't necessarily mean the CPU will be more accurate. Put CPU consistency and control both at 7 and every pitcher is wild. I think heroes would even agree with me if he's tried that setting. The reason I raise CPU consistency because at default the CPU throws to many wild pitches and if you lower it to get more balls, there's no way to get wild pitches in check. In the CPU vs CPU topics, you'll see that the wild pitch stats are too high and they are talking about editing catchers' attributes to fix it.

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          • Heroesandvillains
            MVP
            • May 2009
            • 5974

            #6
            Re: Walks and strikeouts

            Originally posted by Snake.Plissken
            I don't think the good pitchers are too dominant, it's mostly dependent on the BB/9 rating and their control rating for each pitch. The pitchers with a good BB/9 rating will miss the zone by a smaller margin on average but they will still throw a decent amount of obvious balls, they are just around the plate more as they should be. Raising the control and consistency doesn't necessarily mean the CPU will be more accurate. Put CPU consistency and control both at 7 and every pitcher is wild. I think heroes would even agree with me if he's tried that setting. The reason I raise CPU consistency because at default the CPU throws to many wild pitches and if you lower it to get more balls, there's no way to get wild pitches in check. In the CPU vs CPU topics, you'll see that the wild pitch stats are too high and they are talking about editing catchers' attributes to fix it.
            Oh! Don't even get me started on this again Snake!!! LOL!

            Look, OP, Snake is just as hardcore me, but we REALLY don't see eye to eye on this at all.

            Try his, and try mine. Only your skill and observations will truly guide you to where you want your numbers to end up.

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            • Snake.Plissken
              Banned
              • Mar 2011
              • 85

              #7
              Re: Walks and strikeouts

              Originally posted by heroesandvillians
              Oh! Don't even get me started on this again Snake!!! LOL!

              Look, OP, Snake is just as hardcore me, but we REALLY don't see eye to eye on this at all.

              Try his, and try mine. Only your skill and observations will truly guide you to where you want your numbers to end up.
              Have you tried the 7 and 7 setting? Every pitcher is extremely wild regardless of their BB/9 rating, plus there's an abundance of wild pitches. You may disagree with my setting (7 and 8) but I think the 7 and 7 setting proves that raising the sliders doesn't gaurantee the CPU will be more accurate and throw more strikes. You have the stats to back up your settings, I don't have the stats to back up my settings. I have what I feel is a solid ball/strike ratio with wild pitches in check; my walks, strike percentages, etc. may not as good as yours but they are still good.

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              • Jelek11
                Rookie
                • May 2008
                • 23

                #8
                Re: Walks and strikeouts

                I know from reading the other threads that you both know what you're talking about. Differing opinions are always good, it gives me some different ideas to experiment with I'm sure I'll get this figured out, every year I do some slider tweaks to get the game to play as realistically as possible. Honestly I can live with a bit too many wild pitches, no matter what I do with the sliders it'll be better than last year with the massive amount of hbp's and wp's. Right now the basis of my sliders is from steviegolfballs in the cpu vs cpu thread and it's playing really well, it's just this strikeout thing that has had me throwing my controller. I'm gonna try both suggestions over the weekend and I'll let ya know how it turns out.

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