Solid Contact

[mlblover15]

I keep wondering why i cant seem to hit much if anything at all in this game. Then i start to look at pretty much every slider set that i have used or have thought about using. The answer is simple, every one of them has completely lowered or made Solid Contact a non factor.

it seems that with it as low as it is for most slider sets for user you can't do much of anything offensively. The computer on the other hand has NO PROBLEM getting clutch hits or whatever. How is this possible for this to happen with both user and cpu having the same low number (2,3)?

Can anyone explain this to me how it seems to be completely ONE SIDED??? in favor of the cpu???

[northface28]

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I have no idea, but I use timing and solid hits @ 2 per TNK/Psycho slider set is asking for .200 team batting average. Ive raised it to 4. Im getting singles, doubles, hitting balls to the gap, opposite field you name it. I was tired of the cpu getting great hits with solid hits @ 2 while I was lucky to hit the ball out of the infield with the same setting.

Maybe it works on zone hitting, but im not good at it nor do I want to invest the time in it. Im sorry but im not neutering my offense and using a hitting interface im not fond of to play the game. So, I raised solid hits, still striking out and I still get outs. But its the way its happening now. Not the "2 strikeouts, weak dribbler to second" I was seeing with low solid hits every inning.

[mlblover15]

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Raising it to 4 made that much of a difference? did you leave cpu at 2 then or did you adjust that as well?

[Bobhead]

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I play with Solid Hits at 1, and I see plenty of offense. I use zone, though. Other batting styles have different stories.

[northface28]

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Raising it to 4 made that much of a difference? did you leave cpu at 2 then or did you adjust that as well?

I left the CPU at 2. My team ERA is over 4.00 and the cpu still gets hits. Again, im on timing hitting.

[Heroesandvillains]

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I have all my hitting sliders at default, aside from power (4). The same goes for the CPU.

I hit with Timing on HOF and pitch on AS with Classic.

[The Chef]

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Interesting, I had this at 3 and was hitting below .200 through 10 games when I finally switched to zone and had 13 hits in my last game and that was using zone without moving the cursor at all. Do you think the difference between 3 and 4 makes that big of a difference?

[Heroesandvillains]

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Interesting, I had this at 3 and was hitting below .200 through 10 games when I finally switched to zone and had 13 hits in my last game and that was using zone without moving the cursor at all. Do you think the difference between 3 and 4 makes that big of a difference?

Eh...hard to say. The difference I needed came at 5. And even then, I'm getting shut down a bunch. Just now, I actually have a chance to rake, and my stats look incredible.

But, 4 is definitely worth a shot. Timing only is too good, in my opinion, to just give up on. At this point, I'm REALLY glad I didn't.

[The Chef]

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Eh...hard to say. The difference I needed came at 5. And even then, I'm getting shut down a bunch. Just now, I actually have a chance to rake, and my stats look incredible.

But, 4 is definitely worth a shot. Timing only is too good, in my opinion, to just give up on. At this point, I'm REALLY glad I didn't.

What do you think the bonus is between using timing and zone hitting without moving the PCI? I ask in all seriousness because I wanted to use timing but after hitting around .180 through 10 games I gave up and moved to zone while just pressing "x" to swing. Im not sure if there even is a difference to be honest so if youve given both a shot then I would definitely be curious to hear what you think.

[Heroesandvillains]

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What do you think the bonus is between using timing and zone hitting without moving the PCI? I ask in all seriousness because I wanted to use timing but after hitting around .180 through 10 games I gave up and moved to zone while just pressing "x" to swing. Im not sure if there even is a difference to be honest so if youve given both a shot then I would definitely be curious to hear what you think.

Honestly, I'd be lying if I said I knew.

Psychobulk said that the whole zone while only pressing X thing saved the game for him, but 11' has provided us with so many legit hitting options, I can't justify using one in that manner.

My opinion is that it's no coincidence that guys struggling with Timing also have solid hits extremely reduced. My offense was just like yours until I went back to default. Now I'm hitting in the .260's. Before I was in the .220's.

I doubt that this is a coincidence, but I've been wrong before.

[ZOMB13AUTOPILOT]

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What do you think the bonus is between using timing and zone hitting without moving the PCI? I ask in all seriousness because I wanted to use timing but after hitting around .180 through 10 games I gave up and moved to zone while just pressing "x" to swing. Im not sure if there even is a difference to be honest so if youve given both a shot then I would definitely be curious to hear what you think.

Well, using zone hitting with out moving the PCI is the same as the "timing" setting was in last year's game. The PCI stays in the middle of the strike zone and doesn't move. Now, obviously, you can move it with the left stick, but that's up to you.

With timing hitting, the PCI moves to different locations (independent of user input) based on batter ratings, hot and cold zones, hitting situation, pitcher and numerous other factors. You have no control over the PCI with timing hitting this year. It is all calculated by the CPU.

I have used both this year, and I have had mixed results with both. Zone hitting works well, but if you don't move the PCI (which I didn't) and leave it in the center of the strike zone, there is only a small portion of the strike zone that the ball has to be pitched to to be able to make contact. For instance, say the CPU throws a fastball down and in. The most you'll be able to do with that pitch, with the PCI in the middle of the strike zone, is foul it off, and if you don't foul it off, it's going to be a weak ground ball at best. There are major leaguers every day that take that pitch and plant it 4 to 5 rows back into the bleachers. You're just not going to be able to do that without moving the PCI.

Now timing hitting is what I'm currently using. And it is quite a different monster. You as a user, have no control over where the PCI moves. So, even if it's a hitter's count and the pitcher grooves a fastball down the center of the plate, you might not hit that pitch because the CPU has calculated that in this situation, with this pitcher, versus this batter, blah blah blah and moved the PCI down and away, which results in a swing and miss or a foul ball.

Basically, if you've played The Show in past years and used/liked the timing hitting feature in those games, use Zone in this game. If you like having the CPU calculate where the PCI needs to be, and having the chance/luck factor, then use timing.

[jripper09]

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I have all my hitting sliders at default, aside from power (4). The same goes for the CPU.

I hit with Timing on HOF and pitch on AS with Classic.

hey HV i really like classic but im averaging 5 to 8 walks a game. i walked 4 in one inning with kershaw at 75% confidence. It wouldnt bother me as much but im lucky to get 2 walks a game from CPU. I thought classic on veteran would alleviate some of the wildness but not so what sliders are you using? im using 5/5. i think ill stay with meter.

[Heroesandvillains]

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hey HV i really like classic but im averaging 5 to 8 walks a game. i walked 4 in one inning with kershaw at 75% confidence. It wouldnt bother me as much but im lucky to get 2 walks a game from CPU. I thought classic on veteran would alleviate some of the wildness but not so what sliders are you using? im using 5/5. i think ill stay with meter.

5/6.

I rarely pitch into heavy vibration.

I pitch to slight vibration, and allow the ratings to dictate whether or not the ball is right down the pipe, or on the black.

I'm averaging around 4 BB per game.

This technique is key though.

[The Chef]

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Well, using zone hitting with out moving the PCI is the same as the "timing" setting was in last year's game. The PCI stays in the middle of the strike zone and doesn't move. Now, obviously, you can move it with the left stick, but that's up to you.

With timing hitting, the PCI moves to different locations (independent of user input) based on batter ratings, hot and cold zones, hitting situation, pitcher and numerous other factors. You have no control over the PCI with timing hitting this year. It is all calculated by the CPU.

I have used both this year, and I have had mixed results with both. Zone hitting works well, but if you don't move the PCI (which I didn't) and leave it in the center of the strike zone, there is only a small portion of the strike zone that the ball has to be pitched to to be able to make contact. For instance, say the CPU throws a fastball down and in. The most you'll be able to do with that pitch, with the PCI in the middle of the strike zone, is foul it off, and if you don't foul it off, it's going to be a weak ground ball at best. There are major leaguers every day that take that pitch and plant it 4 to 5 rows back into the bleachers. You're just not going to be able to do that without moving the PCI.

Now timing hitting is what I'm currently using. And it is quite a different monster. You as a user, have no control over where the PCI moves. So, even if it's a hitter's count and the pitcher grooves a fastball down the center of the plate, you might not hit that pitch because the CPU has calculated that in this situation, with this pitcher, versus this batter, blah blah blah and moved the PCI down and away, which results in a swing and miss or a foul ball.

Basically, if you've played The Show in past years and used/liked the timing hitting feature in those games, use Zone in this game. If you like having the CPU calculate where the PCI needs to be, and having the chance/luck factor, then use timing.

And thats my problem with timing. If Ive got Matt Kemp standing at the plate and Lincecum on the mound, 2-0 count, and Lincecum decides to groove one in there then I want to smash it. I dont want the game to suddenly decide that Lincecum is too good to get hit so it makes Matt Kemp the equivelant of some scrub. I think timing can work well if you raise the solid contact slider high enough or lower the pitching sliders for the CPU so they hang more pitches but Im just not willing to mess with the timing setup anymore. As for pulling low pitches for HR's, I cant hit HR's to save my life (as evidenced by the 3 total Ive hit in 13 games) so I cant even comment really as Im having an extreme power outage as it is no matter where the pitch is.

[COMMISSIONERHBK9]

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i got a question then i am using zone i use guess location when i guess right the pci goes automatic to the spot, do i still have to aim or do i just swing?