Need some "easier" sliders to get the hang of the game...?

[PatriotJames]

I'm using TNK Perfect Slider set and I can't even win a game. Is there any rookie batting/rookie pitching sliders out there? I'd also prefer time batting.

My pitching is really good and I can go through most games allowing 6 to 8 hits. My batting just needs some help. I have a terrible eye and cannot guess for the life of me if it's a slider, changeup, curve, etc. or if its going in the strikezone AT ALL. I have it on rookie and slowest pitch speed and I'm still late.

I am an "older" gamer and even in previous years it seams I could follow the pitch much better...IDK what this years deal is though.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[mlblover15]

Re: Need some "easier" sliders to get the hang of the game...?

ok im aTn older gamer (40) and have been playing this series since 07 and have loved it. that is up until 09, that is when i started to get really frustrated with this game.

i personally use guess pitch 1/6 and always select low center, 4-seam fastball. i take until i get a ball that lits up the area with the ball icon not just the corners lighting up.

that is unless there are two strikes, then all bets are off and I'm swinging at whatever comes, and i do mean EVERYTHING that comes. i have swung at balls in other time zones, zip codes, atmosphere, or anything.

zone seems to work better than timed, and you DON'T have to use the LEFT STICK to use it. whatever you decide to do i wish you the greatest amount of luck. i too am struggling with sliders as well, i have probably tried every veteran slider set there is here on os and online.

however i haven't given any of them any really time to be digested. with some i've had way too easy games, too hard games, games with too many homers, not enough offense... etc etc. heck i've even tried default and i cant find a solid balance.

so in short it is a journey, you either take it or you don't. ive been packing and unpacking my bags in preparation of this journey day after day week after day. anyway you have to find your way... sorry for rambling...

oh one more thing... batting practice, batting practice and more batting practice, all modes can help you in one way or another.

[PatriotJames]

Re: Need some "easier" sliders to get the hang of the game...?

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...g-sliders.html

try my sliders i've taken from most sets.

You can use zone with these, I just prefer timing. I figure once I get the timing down then moving to zone will be easier. Zone hurts when your timing is terrible and you're swinging at everything (I'm doing the same thing).

BTW 08 was definitely the best game in the series! I agree! LOL

[spit_bubble]

Re: Need some "easier" sliders to get the hang of the game...?

Raising timing will give you a bigger window of opportunity.

Raising contact will make you swing and miss less, as well as help you check your swing more.

Raising solid hits will give you more base hits.

Lowering CPU pitch control will give you fatter pitches to hit.

Lowering CPU pitch consistency will make the CPU pitcher miss the zone further than normal, so that it's easier to distinguish a ball from a strike.

I have all of the above maxed out in my favor, except for solid hits (6) and CPU pitch consistency (2), and can get good numbers on all star difficulty.

Also, using a zoomed in custom camera will give you a better look at the ball. Then go to practice mode and the timing hitting drill, and get used to timing pitches right.

[G4Vendetta]

Re: Need some "easier" sliders to get the hang of the game...?

Read my new thread about the most important aspect of the game. Adjust the batter view to a more realistic perspective and use a strike frequency of 1 or 2....0 strike frequency nets about a 50% first strike percentage and realistic MLB average is 58%. I am 41 and I feel your pain. However, most of the games frustration comes from swinging at bad pitches because the default views are too far back and in the center of the plate. In years past this couldn't be adjusted but this year you can change the batters view to almost anything you like. With the proper view you lose the "pretty" view of the batter--but who cares"---and you gain the angle on the ball to see the speed better from the correct side of the plate. Why the game isn't like this to begin with is beyond me. For me, the game is great now. I can see the pitch location and swing better on time. I currently walk no less than 2 times a game and as many as 8 times. My Batting average is .265 as a team and I strikeout an average of 7 times a game. Now this is baseball. I am still working on the sliders to make it great and I am getting close now that the most fundamental aspect has been FIXED.

Honestly, everything you do before this is only to "band aid" the real problem because the real problem is we do not see the ball coming at the batter from the correct side or from the right height.

[Geronimo22]

Re: Need some "easier" sliders to get the hang of the game...?

I agree with G4Vendetta to a point. Batting views are important, but I don't think one is truely better than the other (I do perfer offset cam angles though). But I think its really based on user perfernce, TV, how close you're sitting to the TV, etc...

But it is important to start out playing on
veteran with any sliders (Patriot James, Marcus). In Veteran (with close to default sliders) the pitcher throw's more meatballs, especially earlier in the count.

So I suggest to play exihibiton games with your settings and sliders. Switch teams at the end of each half-inning so you just bat the whole time. Go into it with the apporach that you want to watch the ball right out of the pitchers hand and have a thought process of where its going. See the ball as long as you can. See the meaty fastball that looks so delicious. See the hanging slider or curve. Even if you don't swing, and just look at the pitch, and strikeout 20 times the whole game; you're going to start to get that feling "I should have crushed that pitch" in your vision/muscle memory. That should be your starting point, don't worry about score, strikeouts. Instead mess around with the camera's, your batting style (zone, timing, analog), and rememeber what type of pitches your seeing.

[Geronimo22]

Re: Need some "easier" sliders to get the hang of the game...?

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...g-sliders.html

try my sliders i've taken from most sets.

You can use zone with these, I just prefer timing. I figure once I get the timing down then moving to zone will be easier. Zone hurts when your timing is terrible and you're swinging at everything (I'm doing the same thing).

BTW 08 was definitely the best game in the series! I agree! LOL

How can timing help you when swinging at everything and your physical timing is terrible? No hitting method (Timing, Zone, Analog) will work if that's the case. You're going to miss with all of them.

[G4Vendetta]

Re: Need some "easier" sliders to get the hang of the game...?

I agree with G4Vendetta to a point. Batting views are important, but I don't think one is truely better than the other (I do perfer offset cam angles though). But I think its really based on user perfernce, TV, how close you're sitting to the TV, etc...

But it is important to start out playing on
veteran with any sliders (Patriot James, Marcus). In Veteran (with close to default sliders) the pitcher throw's more meatballs, especially earlier in the count.

So I suggest to play exihibiton games with your settings and sliders. Switch teams at the end of each half-inning so you just bat the whole time. Go into it with the apporach that you want to watch the ball right out of the pitchers hand and have a thought process of where its going. See the ball as long as you can. See the meaty fastball that looks so delicious. See the hanging slider or curve. Even if you don't swing, and just look at the pitch, and strikeout 20 times the whole game; you're going to start to get that feling "I should have crushed that pitch" in your vision/muscle memory. That should be your starting point, don't worry about score, strikeouts. Instead mess around with the camera's, your batting style (zone, timing, analog), and rememeber what type of pitches your seeing.

If you don't think a batting perspective is important then play from a view in the stands and see how that works out. OF course it matters. If you choose to play from a view too low, too high, in the middle, or on the wrong side then the experience is not what a batter experiences and thus the simulation becomes fatally flawed. Thus flawed, sliders then need to be adjusted to compensated to make-up for the inability to judge speed and location. There is nothing for me to be wrong here about. If you think I am wrong then there should be no difference for lefty on righty and lefty on lefty matchups. Or no difference for pitch delivery such as in a 6'10 lefty overhand delievery vs a righty submarine delivery to a lefty batter.

Figures you are a Yankee fan...
Just kidding bro

[Geronimo22]

Re: Need some "easier" sliders to get the hang of the game...?

If you don't think a batting perspective is important then play from a view in the stands and see how that works out. OF course it matters. If you choose to play from a view too low, too high, in the middle, or on the wrong side then the experience is not what a batter experiences and thus the simulation becomes fatally flawed. Thus flawed, sliders then need to be adjusted to compensated to make-up for the inability to judge speed and location. There is nothing for me to be wrong here about. If you think I am wrong then there should be no difference for lefty on righty and lefty on lefty matchups. Or no difference for pitch delivery such as in a 6'10 lefty overhand delievery vs a righty submarine delivery to a lefty batter.

Figures you are a Yankee fan...
Just kidding bro

All good points...

Love the Yankee haters! lol